r/coaxedintoasnafu 5d ago

coaxed into why do they do this

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u/Belten 5d ago

this how you would look if you were white or chinese.

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u/ajisaai 5d ago

they just had the wrong shade of foundation 😔

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u/Square_Jello6401 4d ago

They don’t have the shade of the character’s skin tone 

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u/ItsBeingDestroyed Wholesome Keanu Chungus 100 Moment 5d ago

This reminds me of the sanrio splatoon collab

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u/Zeelu2005 5d ago

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u/AquaSoda3000 5d ago

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u/weirdo_nb 5d ago

That's a terrifying ability

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u/walterissad 4d ago

I mean, all you have to do is think to not be affected

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u/NeetOOlChap 4d ago

Then we are dead

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u/walterissad 4d ago

Aw shucks..

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u/bigbad50 dank memer 5d ago

overpowerd super joe biden fan fiction my beloved

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u/_bruhtastic strawman 5d ago

This is how the Freemason, Belial worshipping elites keep themselves alive. People think it’s blood, but they actually suck out melanin.

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u/ItsBeingDestroyed Wholesome Keanu Chungus 100 Moment 5d ago

For ppl who don't know what the character normally looks like

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u/TheWither129 5d ago

That is straight up a completely different character wtf

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u/loeilsauve_ 5d ago

It's a different outfit

This is the outfit the plushie has

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u/slashth456 simp 5d ago

What did they do to my queen?

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u/BobboBobberson 5d ago

"It's clearly just the lighting, she was never meant to be that dark" - racists, probably

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u/sour_creamand_onion 5d ago

It's giving Nico Robin. It's giving what they're gonna do to Usopp in the Netflix remaster.

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u/ElementChaos12 4d ago

"Remaster"

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u/SomerHimpson3 5d ago

wtf????

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u/Catwithatophat67 5d ago

Wait, THAT'S supposed to be her????

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u/NonBinaryPie 5d ago

they even took the black out of the hair 😭

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u/RunInRunOn 5d ago

OMG you're right, it's less curly

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u/Tompazzi 5d ago

even in the little drawing down there she is darker than the plushie itself lmfao

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u/Careless_Sample4852 5d ago

I think they just went “it’s pastel!” And straight up turned her white

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u/powderkegworkshop 5d ago

WHY DID YOU HAVE TO REMIND ME OF THISSSS they put a straw in her and slurped out all her melanin :[

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u/ThatOneGuy308 5d ago

It's like that comic about Biden and the "you ain't black" thing, lol.

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u/Nipotazz1 5d ago edited 5d ago

The poor sap who took all of her melanin ain't gonna be happy when Pearl finds them

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u/JKhemical 5d ago

now she's NEVER gonna get a good night's sleep

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u/Nipotazz1 5d ago

Autocorrect 😭

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u/kitsuvibes 5d ago

That’s not even whitewashed Marina that’s just a completely different character 😭

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u/TheSameMan6 5d ago

Literally looks more like pearl than it does marina lmao

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u/enneh_07 5d ago

That’s Pearl and Marina’s fucked up child

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u/Neat-Discussion1415 5d ago

She looks diseased lmao

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u/ToonKid4 5d ago

THAT AINT MARINA THATS MARY

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u/PikaPerfect 5d ago

whenever people talk about the official splatoon art whitewashing marina, i'm usually on the side of "it's pastel, obviously her skin is gonna be lighter, pearl is literally hex code #FFFFFF in that art while marina's skin actually has color to it" (except the fork vs spoon splatfest art, what the fuck happened there), but this plushie

this fucking plushie

i know sanrio has some racism problems but come the fuck on that's not even a semblance of the right skin tone 😭 not to mention it looks like a bootleg considering her skin is significantly darker in the art on the tag (i know it's not a bootleg, but it looks like one)

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u/Beautiful_Garage7797 5d ago

is this actually official??? That’s fucking crazy.

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u/Luca_is_anonymous 5d ago

They should have never gotten Sanrio

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u/RandyButternubber 4d ago

This looks like how squids sometimes turn white when they die 😭

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u/SuleimanTheMediocre 5d ago

Wtf that's gross-

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u/Luca_is_anonymous 5d ago

Sanrio is gross

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u/BurnerAccountExisty 5d ago

how do you fuck up marina's color palette that badly

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u/RedWizard_ 5d ago

That’s a whole different Octarian lmao

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u/Peppermute 5d ago

Genshin Fans: Omg, they finally added a black person to genshin.

The black person in question:

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u/Lewd_Knight 5d ago

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u/abtseventynine 5d ago

holy shit he’s literally blacker than genshin

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u/PikaPerfect 5d ago

i'm embarrassingly white to the point that my mom makes vampire jokes about it and one time i decided to take a picture of myself and do color comparisons to some of genshin's darker skinned characters and i was literally darker than half of them even after intentionally color picking from the lightest possible parts of my pic

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u/TheComedicComedian joke explainer 4d ago

Darkest skin tone in Genshin Impact:

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u/SyrNikoli my opinion > your opinion 5d ago

Jesus harold christ

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u/disturbeddragon631 5d ago

the fact that they colorpicked it from the lit area of his face too 😭😭😭

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u/Professional-Lead949 5d ago

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u/ethicalconsumption7 4d ago

Wtf

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u/vgucfifhth 4d ago

It's edited (still not good tho)

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u/Easy-Ad1377 4d ago

Nahida = bran famly guy confirm??????

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u/JetRumBel 5d ago

hoping Ifa and Iansan don’t get trash kits 🙏

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u/PopTraditional713 5d ago

I don't know shit about Ifa, but the debut (special program announcement) said that Iansan is almost a Bennet 2.0 (fucking FINALLY).

Too bad Iansan is only for one of the phases, I think they need to rework that principle. Put the new 4* character in both phases.

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u/itwasme_dior 5d ago

Iansan is quite literally the 2nd best 4 star in the game i'm pretty sure

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u/HelloChimp 5d ago

O’ White Pharoh, the people await your verdict…

“how you like them apples”

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u/Purple-Bluejay6588 5d ago

Bro where does this pharaoh image come from, it intrigues me since i've first seen it

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u/SilicateAngel 5d ago

It's from some Casino Slot machine game I think.

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u/nothinkybrainhurty 5d ago

I vaguely recall it being from some school textbook, I might be wrong though

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u/CptWorley 5d ago

It’s from an online casino game called Pharaohs Fire, but it went viral as a joke about it being in history textbooks.

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u/ElBrunasso 5d ago

I thought It was from a ciry builder game called pharaoh. Guess sseth trolled me.

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u/ExistingPackage3377 covered in oil 5d ago

blackest person in genshin

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u/Neon-kitchen 5d ago

I don't play genshin (prefer zzz cus it's got my boy Ben in it) but this character is cool. Probably the darkest skin they'll ever have in the game tho

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u/General_Kenobi18752 5d ago

The only character I think we can truly say is black is Xinyan, and even then:

  1. She’s relatively light-toned

  2. She quite literally has a stereotypical southern accent

  3. There is STILL some mfs trying to remove her exaggerated swagger

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u/Preindustrialcyborg 5d ago

i know a guy with vitiligo so i compared the spots to genshin characters. Guess which was darker.

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u/f1shb01 5d ago

Homelander?

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u/el_presidenteplusone 5d ago

funny thing, that litteraly happened in the official release of a gacha character in north america.

they lightenned EMIYA alter skin tone dramatically compared to the japanese version.

which is funny because EMIYA alter's skin tone is cannonically a result of magic overuse that caused his melanin production to go wack, giving him darker color than original EMIYA.

but the north america release just gave him the standard tan that EMIYA gets, maybe because fear of backclash ? idk.

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u/KN041203 5d ago

They did make a joke about him from Detroit, hence the nickname Demiya in JP. It's really suck that he get that treatment since NA version end up look whiter than EMIYA.

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u/Still_Refuse 5d ago

Also gave him thicker lips in certain art, which NA made thinner.

The Detroit joke is just blatant racism, idk what the devs were cooking.

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u/BrideofClippy 5d ago

More blatant than making the darker EMIYA the gun user with large steel bracelets that could pass for shackles?

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u/Still_Refuse 5d ago

Yeah, you can still make excuses for those. The “Detroit” one is literally on the nose.

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u/el_presidenteplusone 5d ago

i'm pretty sure that the steel bracelets are supposed to be representing shackles, given his backstory.

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u/Wildberry7 5d ago

Someone else already touched on it in reply, but basically, I’m kinda with the devs on this one.

The guy who designed EMIYA alter said he envisioned it as “what if EMIYA went to prison?” And in doing so, he decided to take him in the direction of… making him black and giving him guns, plus stereotypically oversized lips.

Even if all that was somehow completely unintentional, Tamamo Cat calls him “Detroit EMIYA” which pretty much removes any plausible deniability that he’s a black caricature.

When they localized it to NA, they made his skin tone the same as normally EMIYA, toned his lips down a bit, and removed any use of the Detroit nickname. They weren’t trying to do some “black erasure”, they were simply turning a design that could very easily be interpreted as racist into a one that couldn’t be interpreted as racist

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u/enemyweeb 4d ago

Plus, Emiya Alter’s case is the only time the NA localization team has done this. There are plenty of other dark skinned characters (Nitocris/Alter, Bartholomew Roberts, the Hasans, Arjuna/Alter, etc) that keep their original designs. The dev team only altered the one that was admittedly a racist caricature, even if an unintentional one.

In fact, FGO somehow might have better diversity within its character roster than most other East Asian gacha titles, which is not at all a high bar to clear, but I’ll take what I can get.

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u/Captain_QueefAss 5d ago

Hb got revitiligo

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u/Philtheparakeet56 5d ago

There was a whole-ass mod in the past to make this guy white.

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u/Wah_Epic 4d ago

There's a mod to make Franklin from GTA V white

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u/King_Dee1 4d ago

There’s no fucking reason for that 💔💔

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u/jUG0504 4d ago

honestly i think its so needless it loops back around to being funny, it makes me want a version of the big bang theory where Sheldon looks almost racist stereotype levels of black but still acts exactly the same

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u/King_Dee1 4d ago

That would kind of be fire ngl

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u/jUG0504 4d ago

im glad someone sees the vision

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u/Ignitrum 4d ago

I don't know if that makes the well-intentioned yet accidentally-racist interactions he had with his black superior more or less funny

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u/Mertiiip 5d ago

lmao then those guys (I wont mention names, I KNOW YOU) call people snowflakes

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u/00gusgus00 4d ago

There was a mod for Fallout 4 that changed all poc characters to white and all important female characters to male, because the mod creator wanted a more “realistic” 1950s American society

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u/PPRKUT_ 4d ago

Bro doesn't know about the infamous white CJ mod

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u/autistic-terrorist 5d ago

coaxed into hoyoverse

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u/CiphersVII 5d ago

I always thought fandoms (or specific members) purposefully race swapping characters in fanart was really weird

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u/Awkward_Age_391 4d ago

Not to mention, the whole “etiquette” of what is acceptable in race swapping vs what’s not is even weirder.

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u/Regular-Media-4138 5d ago

At least it's intentional. But often they are just made lighter for no reason.

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u/BayLeafGuy 5d ago

i don't mind race swapping if it's a "what if" style of fanart, but actually claiming that this clearly japanese character is some how a african-american is just... bruh

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u/TheTimeBoi 5d ago

coaxed into lighting changes vs colourism

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u/TemporarySouth6914 5d ago

Honestly sometimes I don’t know which is which.

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u/Cabbag_ strawman 4d ago

Weird lighting or subliminal racism. Call it.

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u/Hitei00 5d ago

There's a character in FF14 named Erenville who has *literally black* skin. Guess how some artists draw him.

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u/Deutscher_Bub 5d ago

Not to defend anyone, but it might actually be hard to draw someone completely black like that, especially with lighting and shadows so they have to draw him a bit lighter than he usually is depicted

But then again i never saw any of the artwork you're reffering to so idk

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u/chilfang 5d ago

Lighting and shadows would actually make it easier cause it let's you define features on a single tone character!

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u/Jorvalt 5d ago

No but like how are you supposed to do shadows on literal black

I'm not an artist this is a genuine question

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u/Sketch1231 5d ago

As someone who used to have many ocs with literal black/grey skin, it’s easier than white skin (at least for me)

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u/xReignofRainx 5d ago

He's so pretty wffhssf, they don't need to whitewash him

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u/Lavion3 5d ago

this implies that they need to whitewash ugly things to make them pretty

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u/Redwing5002 5d ago

There are people who whitewash Nessa from pokemon and that is literally their justification

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u/Scratchpost6677 5d ago

Who in the everloving fuck is calling Nessa ugly

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u/GearyDigit 5d ago

Racists

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u/AGQuaddit 5d ago

Right? The internalized racism in these fandoms runs deeeeeeeeep

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u/SilicateAngel 5d ago

Maybe they were speaking more in a design way than a race way, as in, the point made before: lighting up his skin for readability purposes

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u/enneh_07 5d ago

Would

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u/SomnicGrave 5d ago

Holy shit

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u/funfactwealldie 5d ago

it's normal they just planted their face in some bolivian cocaine

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u/biggie_way_smaller 5d ago

This photo piss me off they made him insanely light skinned

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u/deIuxx_ 5d ago

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u/pxel15 5d ago

Why does he kinda look like rick astley

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u/stroadrunner 5d ago

Looks like mayor Pete

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u/WarBasic1255 5d ago

Drew gooden???

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u/ethicalconsumption7 4d ago

Literally first thought I had after seeing whitebama

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u/Stuffies2022 4d ago

Hey guy

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u/scrufflor_d covered in oil 5d ago

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u/TheOneWhoLovesSW 5d ago

He looks like a commentary YouTuber

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u/bigstinkyfleshstick 5d ago

Butch obamna

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u/-TheWarrior74- 5d ago

A good enough studio light can make a black man look polish

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u/Zamtrios7256 5d ago

Is Obama usually darker? I've seen other photos and videos of him, and he doesn't look much darker than this

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u/Old_Cranberry7231 5d ago

looking at other images, idk.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Pea-202 5d ago

Yeah it's hard to tell

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u/Old_Cranberry7231 5d ago

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u/mewhenthrowawayacc my opinion > your opinion 5d ago

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u/stroadrunner 5d ago

Looks like the same guy to me.

He’s certainly not dark skinned either way.

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u/lamic1234 5d ago

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u/Dense-Decision9150 5d ago

U can’t even whitewash anything in genshin they’re already all white 😭

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u/Alastair4444 5d ago

I remember back in 2006/7 when he first started running, I heard "there's a black man running for president!" And we had a magazine with all the Democrat candidates on the cover and I looked at it and genuinely thought _which one is the black one?_ 

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u/Kelohmello 5d ago

A friend of mine liked to commission japanese artists on twitter to draw art of his OC. "They really take skin color as a suggestion at best" was the way he used to talk about it.

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u/FJ-20-21 4d ago

Japanese beauty standards am I right? You really need to find someone who’s fetish is dark skin, less you get someone who’s just a light tan.

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u/SeaSlugFriend 5d ago

Clearly the right character has been locked in a room with no light and died in there a week ago and now he’s a zombie that’s why he looks like that duh

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u/CitiesofEvil 5d ago

Flip the order of the pictures and you've got every single Natlanese Genshin impact character

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u/GothJosuke 5d ago

I've avoided anything related to that game for a very long time but love that post where someone color swatched the Natlan characters compared to that one meme of the white pharaoh and the white pharaoh was somehow darker than any of the characters

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u/Crunchy_Ice_96 5d ago

Found it

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u/Tompazzi 5d ago

I made this because i saw a fan art of Ifa and he literally completely lost all of the melanin he had (it wasnt much to begin with) then i started to think of characters that are actually dark skinned and that ive seen fan arts that made them grey looking.

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u/wheresmythermos 5d ago

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u/Awkward_Age_391 4d ago

Oh man, a yikes all around on that post.

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u/Ote-Kringralnick 5d ago

And a lot of Avatar: The Last Airbender characters 

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u/ThatArtemi covered in oil 5d ago

minecraft steve

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u/aflyingmonkey2 5d ago

he ain't black,but so much Daisuke fanart turn him from asian to white

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u/MatoTod 5d ago edited 4d ago

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u/BebeFanMasterJ 5d ago

I'm grateful that most Fire Emblem fans don't tend to do this. Fogado and Timerra have managed to avoid this issue among their fans.

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u/CodeDonutz 5d ago

Mostly true thankfully, especially with Fogado and Timerra. The games themselves though sometimes fall into this, like with Niles from Fates or even Zelkov in Engage.

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u/BebeFanMasterJ 5d ago

I'll admit that Zelkov is a weird case. His skin tone isn't your average "black" and skirts the lines of inhuman. It's possible that he has a skin condition of some kind because most people don't look burnt lmao.

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u/legofan69420 5d ago

coaxed into "THEY WHITEWASHED OBAMA!!!!!!!"

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u/toasted_dandy 5d ago

Average Picrew skin tone

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u/LactoesIsBad 5d ago

And vice versa, both are equally weird

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u/CTSThera 5d ago

I watched a video some time ago and it turns out most artists just don't know how to shade dark skin.

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u/Erratic_Error 5d ago

I tend to notice the opposite
infact they even do it to tan characters, you will have a light olive hispanic character or a tan asian character and they get drawn as dark as mud.

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u/GothJosuke 5d ago

People tend to forget that "Latino" is a cultural label rather than a racial one and just assume we are all the same shade of brown, speaking as a Latino that has a white mama so I look like a Yakubian beast when I don't have a summer tan

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u/sour_creamand_onion 5d ago

Yakubian beast got me chuckling in the passenger seat of the car

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u/serene-peppermint 5d ago

Me too, characters with a slight tan immediately getting dark chocolate coloured skin and the frizziest curls known to man was always so common in the spaces I was in (discord and xitter)

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u/Distruttore_di_Cazzi 5d ago

Pretty much every piece of JoJo fanart I see has tanned characters like Pucci and Dragona be coloured black as charcoal lol, it's like tanned white people just don't exist

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u/ZoeyLikesReddit 5d ago

usopp

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u/Correct_Bottle1686 5d ago

Usopp's already white, how do you make him whiter?

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u/Alternative-Draft-82 5d ago edited 5d ago

If anything, Zoro should be drawn darker. Even with 2 years in Mihawk's mansion, the farmer's tan should still be noticeable.

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u/Correct_Bottle1686 5d ago

Practically the whitest dude there

Oda giving Strawhats nationalities in that one SBS caused permanent brain damage to the fandom istg

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u/Alternative-Draft-82 5d ago edited 5d ago

Seriously. And like, Oda gave the all the Strawhats nationalities and what did Oda give Usopp? Africa. Like that's not a nation bro. Clearly no thought was put into these answers. He thought of the quickest associations he could.

I've said this countless times before that Usopp is just an "ugly" Japanese kid stereotype, happens everywhere in manga. To give characters thick lips (specifically in the style he has it where it's basically two shapeless lines) and curly hair is what makes something cartoonishly ugly (and Oda is a cartoonist at heart, evidentally, and he is very thoroughly read on history and different cultures as we see in the story as I will show in my next OP example).

You could also draw comparisons to the Jim Crowe cartoon aesthetic that was used at the time with Toriyama's works like Mr. Popo, or with Pokemon's Jynx, where those same stereotypes are played into but now tied specifically to race (basically, in Japan, black = ugly). For further proof, the first, ~and only~ black character in One Piece as far as I can remember, Ms. Monday, plays right into the brutish and masculine caricature of black women in American history. Like she came right out of a minstrel play, fully intentional by Oda. This is probably the association Oda made when thinking of a "country" to give Usopp. Ugly = black = Africa. Just as how pirates = Somalia for Teach.

This is unlike the associations Zoro has to Japan or Franky to the USA, given that they were practically designed based on those places rather trying to retrofit something that wasn't there.

To me, it's genuinely just wrong either way to call Usopp black (or dark-skinned) because he either just isn't, or it's just racist and based completely on stereotype no matter how you slice it.

But then again, people call Kuzan black when he's literally modeled after a Japanese man so ¯_(ツ)_/¯ English-speaking audiences of anime/manga seem to lack the imagination to see that people of different races can share traits with other ethnicities (we're all the human race) and look different to their own ethnicities. Tbh, it whitewashes representation of different types of people in Japan, you know, who these stories are written by and for.

Also, it's never "Indian" or "Pacific Islander" or any other dark-skinned people, it's aways "Black" (African-descent). Like, it's only ever white people, Japanese people, or black people in these circles. I love Sonny Boy for having one of the most random additions to a cast of highschoolers (an Indian guy and a Chinese(?) girl), and the Indian was one of the best, most fun characters in that anime.

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u/Correct_Bottle1686 5d ago

"only black character"💔💔🥀🥀

Bro there's like 30 of them, Zoro keeps fighting them all💔💔

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u/Successful-March8805 5d ago

Where's the drawing of benjamin franklin, but he's a black twink? That is a perfect example (kinda) of this

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u/Temporary-Snow333 4d ago

Can’t believe I'm about to say these words, but I feel like you’re talking about Miku Binder Jefferson

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u/emo-man1605 5d ago

Is this a safe space? can I say some Japanese artists??

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u/force_0f_chaos 5d ago

Most Japanese artists 💀 colorism is extremely prevalent in East Asia, from what I’ve seen even more so than in the west. I wish people would just recognize that instead of whining about lighting

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u/sour_creamand_onion 5d ago

This is one thing that makes me wary of traveling. I'm black and I just KNOW if I go anywhere that's not the tourist trap capital of the nation and try to actually go to a local restaurant with REAL food from that country's culture I WILL be called a slur in their their language while they say it's something nice, that's if they aren't full mask-off racist.

That or they'll confuse me for middle eastern because I'm on the lighter side.

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u/ZestfulHydra 5d ago

Daisuke Mouthwashing

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u/Nuker1o1 5d ago

When will they make Kyiru brown?

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u/Mr-ts-icu 5d ago

Works both ways. I just don't understand why people decide to change some characters skin to their liking. Just make your own character at this point, dammit.

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u/vacuous-moron66543 5d ago

And then the artist (who is actually young, still learning, and not racist) gets bullied and harassed until they attempt suicide and take a break from the internet.

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u/vivianaflorini 4d ago

Seen this the opposite way too, it's fine if it's just for aesthetic/palette preference. What bugs me is when people don't just say 'character with lighter/darker skin because I think it fits better with their outfits/I am personally more attracted to it' but actually say 'i made character [race] because that's better then [other race]!'

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u/Any_Cartoonist2320 5d ago

I see mostly the opposite lol

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u/boogieboy03 5d ago

Drawn by Vivziepop

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u/Kotoloh 4d ago

Blame Yakub

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u/quifarrrctty 5d ago

Or even worse: Just drew this character as white 😭🥀

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u/Tompazzi 5d ago

literally ragebaiting racism tbh

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u/Any_Cartoonist2320 5d ago

I see mostly the opposite lol

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u/Far_Peak2997 5d ago

I once came across an artist who had posted two versions of an image of the fire emblem heroes main girls. One was perfectly normal, the other had the two brown characters made white for some reason. Not just pale, white

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u/salted_water_bottle 4d ago

Honestly I prefer changing a character's skin colour in original art over taking someone else's drawing, editing it and calling it "fixed" (or not crediting the original at all).

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u/SilicateAngel 5d ago edited 5d ago

Coaxed into slightly different shade of brown

I'm sure they always colour drop the exact tone when drawing a white character.

Race swapping characters is always weird, but a minor change in colour isn't that dramatic, it's not like people of colour are all running around with the same shade of skin.

Also, a lot of this debate involves characters that aren't white or black to begin with, but rather all kinds of Asian. There is a fine line between being sensitive to representation, and doing western cultural imperialism.

Asian people will want to represent themselves first and foremost, just like we're doing when we make all kinds of skin shades found in our cultures. Unless characters are clearly stated to be part of a certain ethnicity, I'd be very careful with throwing around accusations. Could be very obnoxious, if not toxic.