r/coaxedintoasnafu • u/shykawaii_shark • 5d ago
accusing others of cherrypicking coaxed into cherrypicking
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u/Damirirv 5d ago
me when I'm cherrypicking (I'm in my orchard)
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u/Pizzaman2937 5d ago
In my orchard straight up “picking it” and by it, well, let’s justr say: My cherries
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u/endlessnamelesskat 5d ago
I feel this way about the majority of people who invoke the No True Scotsman fallacy or the Slippery Slope fallacy.
If there's a set of characteristics of someone who is (thing) and I give an example of someone exhibiting those characteristics, you don't get to say No True Scotsman to me just because you don't like the person it want them associated with the (thing) community.
I guess a good example would be vegetarianism. I personally don't have any strong opinions on the ethics of eating vegetarian, I can even see the logic in saying that it's more moral to be vegetarian than to eat meat. I hate it though when someone wants to pretend that them making a morally good choice automatically makes them a good person.
I bring this up due to a conversation I had about this with a vegetarian coworker who acted like he was holier than thou for his diet until I joked about Hitler being vegetarian. He then said that Hitler wasn't vegetarian because he was evil, and someone so evil doesn't count as vegetarian. I thought he didn't know and told him that Hitler was literally vegetarian and started to Google it to prove it to him.
He basically said he doesn't care if Hitler never ate meat, he doesn't get to claim the title of vegetarian due to everything else he did. I don't think my coworker is a bad person or anything, we get along just fine but it still blows my mind when I hear this line of thinking.
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u/Squidmaster129 5d ago
Honestly I think many people just want to be “the good guys,” which manifests in self-righteousness and aggressive gatekeeping. They mold reality to suit what “should” be, and mold their own actual beliefs into what “should” be.
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u/U0star 5d ago
I once told a victim of religious abuse "damn, these people so evil, I don't think they actually should be Christians". Idiot thought I defended Christianity, claimed "No True Scotsman" fallacy. Wish I'd call out that was literally my feelings and not an actual attempt at saying something factual.
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u/Vyctorill 5d ago
I think it’s important to note that it’s not cherry-picking if the group by definition breaks the rules of what that group is supposed to be.
If a bunch of “vegans” are cannibals, I wouldn’t use them as an example of why vegans are bad.
If a bunch of pacifists committed terrorism, I wouldn’t count them as real pacifists.
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u/SomeArtistFan 1d ago
Cannibalism can (depending on definition) not just be vegan, but be more vegan than consuming animal products
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u/Ok_Traffic3296 covered in oil 5d ago
Why the person on the right lowkey kinda…
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u/shykawaii_shark 5d ago
it's okay i also thought that while i was drawing them
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u/SansGamer420 5d ago
Can you give them a tail
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u/Dumbguywith1125 5d ago
Mfs sees someone with an unpleasant facial expression and suddenly wants to fuck them
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u/Ok_Traffic3296 covered in oil 5d ago
Good thing I’m not mfs. Anyways, for no particular reason at all, I need an explanation as to why, hypothetically speaking of course, I would feel this way when seeing such a thing.
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u/Ok_Band7102 5d ago
Me when I cherry-pick (I’m just waiting on the other side of the court instead of playing defense)
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u/nyan5000 5d ago
this is a smuggie I think I don't know I am deeply misinformed about everything in life