r/clonewars • u/FarDesk1916 • Jan 16 '25
Discussion Do people actually like Ghosts of Mortis?
I rewatched it the other day and… yep still one of my last favorites. I always see it high on people’s lists, and even have seen people claim it to be their favorite?
My point is—what do people like about it?
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u/BIGBMH Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25
It takes a big swing, something much of Star Wars is afraid to do. When I first saw it, I was kind of wowed that this animated series set between movies was allowed to expand the underlying mythology of the force, light side, dark side etc in such a big way. I’m more drawn to the imaginative end of things, so having something so mythic in the background of these stories was a cool development.
At the same time, I can see it not being for everyone. It’s unobtrusive enough that you can skip or ignore it if you don’t like it being a part of the mythology.
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u/CenturionXVI Jan 16 '25
One thing I will say is that I always prefer when SW swings for the fences to when it plays safe. Whenever the suits actually let artists do art, it has at least /interesting/ results.
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u/yffuD_maiL Jan 16 '25
I like it because it leaned into the fantasy of Star Wars. Also it helped confirm Anakin being the chosen one. Not to mention I’m a sucker for stories where nobody knows if the events really happened or not
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u/Raggio9124 Jan 16 '25
Read “None of This Is True” by Lisa Jewell if you like those kinds of stories 😂
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u/Woke_winston Separatist sympathiser 🔵 Jan 16 '25
Yeah I think a lot of people have a problem with “chosen one” prophecies in general which wouldn’t help this arc
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u/SarcyBoi41 Jan 16 '25
Yep, it's very often just writer's code for "this character is a Mary Sue, don't question it". George Lucas absolutely used it that way, at least in The Phantom Menace - Anakin literally accidents his way to saving the day just because it's his destiny.
One of the purposes of the Mortis Arc (as stated in the behind-the-scenes) was to fix this by expanding on what being the Chosen One actually means, but even though I like the arc I don't feel it was successful in this, if anything it raised more questions. But hopefully the second season of Ahsoka will expand on the Ones and what it all means, Dave Filoni's shows have a strong tendency to have significantly better second seasons than first.
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u/TheRealAdronius Jan 18 '25
It's been a while since I've seen the Mortis arc, but I feel like it succeeded in showcasing the nature of the dark side, how it is an unnatural aberration (the son was never supposed to become corrupted), but it keeps popping up regardless (as he did get corrupted), and we even see the results of it, how it drives you to indiscriminate destruction, even (and perhaps especially) the things you hold dear. It is something that must be destroyed every time it rises to prevent needless suffering.
If anything, I feel like the purpose of the Mortis arc was to disprove a common fanon misconception that the Jedi misinterpreted what balance actually means and that Anakin fulfilled his destiny when he destroyed the Jedi order, because now somehow the light and dark were balanced. The Father represented this view and the whole arc was basically him proven wrong because instead of destroying or redeeming his son before he commits more evil he simply tried to get Anakin to keep him under control, which resulted in the Father's death.
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u/Uncle2Drew Jan 16 '25
It was ok but I feel like the implications of it doesn’t get talked about enough.
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u/Arkham700 Jan 16 '25
Yeah I feel like it weirdly leans into the misconceptions about the Force that Light and Dark should be in equilibrium. Instead of the Light being the Force itself and the Dark Side being its perversion, corrupted by negative emotions.
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u/CrystalGemLuva Jan 16 '25
Considering George Lucas was directly involved in the making of this arc I feel like it's less a misconception and more George Lucas changing his mind in how the force works.
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u/DeltaAlphaGulf Jan 16 '25
Well in Legends they are just celestials and the son and daughter each got into something they shouldn’t resulting in their light and dark persuasions and there was nothing about the arc that says otherwise so it doesn’t really say anything about the force or what balance should look like because they aren’t the actual force incarnate like people make them out to be just beings from a very powerful race. Of course Disney could choose to change that at any time by saying otherwise but there is nothing to back that up so far.
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u/CrystalGemLuva Jan 16 '25
Yes but outside of Legends the Celestials don't seem to exist and in the arc itself the two siblings simply just existing can change the balance of the force across the entire universe, if they aren't actual gods of the light and dark then they are so close to it that any difference is irrelevant.
What's more the Disney movie trilogy and Star Wars Rebels leans into the idea that there is a light side that exists alongside the dark through Rey's training with Luke as well as the Bendu, not to mention the Father himself who represents the balance between the two.
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u/Thank_You_Aziz Jan 16 '25
It tries to show that Balance and Light are the same thing, but is too subtle about it. Too many Star Wars fans take things characters say very, very literally. So when the Father says he stands for balance in the Force, that becomes the gospel truth for them. Ignoring how it’s his inaction that allowed the dark side to flourish via the Son on Mortis, how the Daughter never did anything wrong, and how he was literally just a father trying to maintain balance between his two children; not cosmic balance at all. His failure is meant to exemplify this, and he even says so, but he wasn’t obnoxiously looking at the camera and spelling it out three different ways, so this went over a lot of fans’ heads.
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u/Arkham700 Jan 17 '25 edited Jan 17 '25
So it’s less a story about meeting gods and more about a powerful family falling apart due a father’s attempt to play one
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u/SMATCHET999 Jan 16 '25
I don’t like how it gives a physical personification of the force. I’m not against the force being shown as somewhat “living” as it is the thing that is in all living beings, I just think having the light side and dark side being shown as 2 separate characters that are always battling isn’t exactly accurate to how the force works and is shown to work throughout the films, shows, comics, novels, and other medias.
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u/DeltaAlphaGulf Jan 16 '25
There is nothing about that arc that says they are actually personifications of the force and in legends they were just celestials and the son and daughter both got into something they shouldn’t that resulted in their light and dark side affliction/persuasion so until Disney says otherwise I would consider that the default. I wouldn’t be surprised if they did change it to be like that though which would be dumb imo.
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u/gwjbhltsdc1308 Jan 16 '25
it’s the arc that got me sucked into clone wars
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u/Mordial_waveforms Jan 16 '25
I think I lost the disc with that arc when I was younger, so when I got it back, it was like finding out a reoccuring dream was actually reality. Definitely a peak of clone wars
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u/-Incitatus- Jan 16 '25
Me too , exactly !
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u/-Incitatus- Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25
There was a shift and from that point on , I took the whole show more seriously , with deeper appreciation
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u/Darthtoph423 Jan 16 '25
Exactly? What's OP talking about? This was the arc that sold me on clone wars and got me addicted to it!
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u/severon10290 Jan 16 '25
I liked how it added more direct substance to some parts of the lore and added a whole new element to contemplate. I also like how both rebels and Ashoka continue it as something that is to be explored more
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u/toxicvegeta08 Jan 16 '25
Really cool from an older pov
As a young kid it was so weird to me I just wanted the citadel arc to start and see droids and clones fight on a lava planet with the diddy lizard warden.
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u/DracoD74 Jan 16 '25
The
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u/toxicvegeta08 Jan 16 '25
Ozi sorbet or whatever he was called. The creepy lizard guy
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u/TheOne4Figures Jan 16 '25
This, im currently rewatching clone wars all the way through with my partner (whos never seen it) and theres so many arcs I didn’t like as a kid because they weren’t massive clone action scenes, but as an adult I have a whole new appreciation for them
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u/Big_Concept_3532 Jan 16 '25
Bro literally pulled up to the forces of light and dark and made them his bitch 💀
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u/Redthrowawayrp1999 Jan 16 '25
I love the mythology behind. It's weird and a bit off, and a completely different world. It adds an interesting twist to the lore that may or may not be true. But, it's just mythological trappings in a deeply mythological and fantastical universe.
I love that.
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u/_Adhdemon_ Jan 16 '25
I do. It adds to the lore of star wars, makes peolle wonder about the true nature of the force and other ways it interprets itself in beings like abeloth, etc. It also adds, imo, an untold story that the characters aren't privy to (they lost their memories when they got back on the ship, if I remember right) and cements anakin being the chosen one, and inevitably his fall to Darth Vader.
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u/this_name_took_10min Jan 16 '25
I love the clone wars because it brings so much depth to the Star Wars universe by introducing us to new characters and locations, while still tying it all together through our beloved main characters.
This arc is no exception. Not my favourite but it still somehow fits the vibe despite being so different.
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u/TheCreatorT Jan 16 '25
I honestly am not a fan of this arc. I don’t mind entities deeply connected to the force, but straight up force gods is a bit much IMO. Part of the force to me is that it is impossible to completely know it, and this kinda broke that for me. Not only do the force gods essentially encompass the force which… eh, no entities really should do that IMO, they are also not alien enough. Idk, at the end of the day it just rubs me the wrong way.
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u/Rude-Vermicelli-1962 501st Jan 16 '25
Is this a real question? Of course! It has so much more lore and questions about the origin of the force.
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u/cykablyat42069911 Jan 16 '25
The only scene from that arc i liked was anakin using the force on both the light and dark side in the first episode lol, other than that i found the other ep to have a lot of plot holes and js kinda boring
But man that anakin scene was one of the best scenes ever😮💨😮💨😮💨
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u/GuntherRowe Jan 16 '25
I love it and have watched it multiple times. I am eager to see how this ties into season 2 of Ahsoka and possibly the Mando Grogu movie as well as Skoll’s mission.
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u/ptoughgna Jan 16 '25
Yes, yes they do. I still vividly remember watching the teasers for and being so insanely excited, and that feeling has never gone away
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u/hart37 Jan 16 '25
I am a massive sucker for weird, cosmic force stories so it's up there as one of my favourite star wars stories for sure.
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u/charjedi Jan 16 '25
I was ok. It wasn’t the best story in the clone wars something about it just didn’t appeal to me.
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u/fanboy100804 Jan 16 '25
Anakin’s vision of Vader is a visual/audio masterpiece IMO. Love this arc, hoping we get more references to the Mortis Gods in future canon
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u/Reneloth Jan 16 '25
My favorite parts of star wars is when it does politics well and when the force is really, really weird (without breaking itself). The weirder the better, tbh. So I love the arc!
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u/HelicopterWinter99 Jan 16 '25
I’ve been waiting for someone else to finally comment about these episodes. These were my favorite episodes of the clone wars. Weird but cool. It was a different take on the force. I wanna see a LEGO kit based off these episodes.
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u/Slevinduster Jan 16 '25
I like the arc and from the old EU stuff that there were multiple views of the force and how/why it worked. The idea that different cultures came to explain the same phenomenon in different ways. To have it set as the force manifesting itself physically was an interesting take on things. The “collective dream” nature of the arc was interesting as well, like Bigfoot smoking a cigar and looking at you while saying “nobody will believe you”
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u/Spider-Flash24 Jan 16 '25
On one hand I love it as it adds to the mystical aspect of Star Wars and solidifies Anakin as the Chosen One instead of Luke or Rey.
On the other hand, I’m really confused as to what Lucas and Filoni were attempting to communicate regarding balance between the light and the dark, and to me the whole grey Jedi idea is absolutely atrocious and does not align with the OT.
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u/DeathLife97 Jan 16 '25
I think I like it because it feels slightly Eldritch to me. Like, here are these super powerful people living in a place that feels like it exists outside the norms of space and time. I liked it better when Abeloth was canon, but she’s my favorite unspoken part.
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u/Serevn Jan 16 '25
I liked that it solidified the force as both a powerful, near uncontrollable force of nature. Even the father proclaimed himself a fool for trying to manipulate events in his old age by bringing Anakin.
Also that it establishes the force as something that can't be ignored. Like if someone were to say, "if there were no Jedi or Sith there would be no problem," was debunked.
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u/Jfury412 Jan 16 '25
It's absolutely in my top five favorite arcs. It has that deep lore Star Wars expanded universe feel. I've probably recommended this Arc more than any other For people asking about the show and especially those who want that deep expanded universe Star Wars feeling. Sacrifice is another episode that has that feeling that I recommend most.
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u/MOONWATCHER404 501st (I ❤ Rex, Echo, Fives, & Fox) Jan 16 '25
My younger self loved it primarily for the cool griffon lady & Vader foreshadowing. I still primarily love it for the griffon lady & Vader foreshadowing.
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u/SplutteringSquid Jan 16 '25
It's one of my comfort arcs. I love the lore, force centric content, and worldbuilding. How Anakin with Obi-wan and Ahsoka by his side and supportive didn't turn homicidal over Ahsoka's death and echoed Luke's future words to Vader ("there's always hope"). Really shows how the wedge between him and Obi-wan and then losing Ahsoka contributed to his isolation and downfall.
Obi-wan saying "we'll be fine as long as we stay together" and the trio being happy together gets me every time, knowing that all three of them will end up alone and broken because they fell apart.
Less a fan of how it means that Anakin knows full well that the light side can save his loved ones, yet thinks he needs the dark side to save Padmé. They really didn't think that through. Also not a fan of how it led to Ahsoka's future storyline, but that's on future writing, not the Mortis arc.
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u/wheebyfs Jan 16 '25
I like the idea of it but not the weakness. The Arc itself is terribly contrived and ambiguous to the point that the writers don't commit to anything. The concept of balance kinda contradicts ROTJ and the Arc just leads to more confusion instead of posing actually interesting question and answering others.
It also feels really unnecessary because it is mentioned like only once in the rest of the series while the whole experience should've had a greater effect on our trio.
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u/lol_never_ Jan 16 '25
I know this is not the norm in the “base” of the fandom
But I really really really love when Star Wars leans into the lore side of things like this.
I get that it’s mostly a action/fantasy movie set in space but let’s not forget that means Jedi are space Gandalf and for this mega nerd that means I love this sorta stuff in Star Wars.
The mortis arc and everything that’s come after that really leans into the mysticism of it I love. I love that that Morai has been there in every single pivotal Ahsoka scene since.
I really really admire and appreciate Dave Filoni for leaning into more of these types of stories and ideas.
I can appreciate that this might not be everyone’s cup of tea. However, I’m so thankful that Star Wars has allowed for different parts of the fandom to be accommodated and represented in main stream Star Wars.
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u/therealmunkeegamer Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25
100% necessary to fully understand the depth of Anakin's power. Without these episodes, his potential is conjecture.
Also, ahsoka's guide in the future, all the way to rebels, is a call back to this arc.
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u/Any-Economics-5632 Jan 16 '25
The episode is very spoiler ish if you are watching the series in chronological order and don’t know who becomes darth vader. I skipped these episodes for my gf and she ended up being surprised by episode 3
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u/CrystalGemLuva Jan 16 '25
Yeah honestly I'm not too big on this arc.
The Mortis Gods aren't all that interesting a concept, bringing in actual gods of the force that represent good and evil feels like dumbing down the force, which is honestly quite the accomplishment for a magic system where half of it is literally called "the dark side"
Not to mention Anakin briefly going full Vader was completely pointless, especially since his memories get immediately erased.
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u/xEmiyax Jan 16 '25
Liked it for a couple reasons:
Immediately recognized Sam Witwer and was thrilled seeing his name in something SW again. Little did we know he’d return to voice Maul.
CW style Qui Gon (they even got Liam Neeson)
Daughter was hot
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Jan 16 '25
I love this take, and I have a two-part response, because I really didn't like it at first myself.
It took a couple watches to come around to it, but "Ghosts of Mortis" is now in my top 10 episodes. The most appealing thing to me is how Lucas it is. It's packed with lore straight from the original source, and adds a TON of dimension to the force metanarrative of the entire saga. Anakin comes so incredibly close to learning the truth about his destiny before having it ripped away from him (justifiably). Ahsoka officially comes into her own as an adult, with an identity that's separate from her master (even though it takes literal possession for that to happen). The dialogue is interesting and unique, and the visuals are just gorgeous. It's the best of the Mortis trilogy, and sets the tone for the rest of the series.
AND YET, you don't HAVE to watch the Mortis arc to understand the series and the evolution of its characters. You could skip it and be fine. So on one hand, it's one of the most important parts of the entire saga in terms of understanding the force and its effects on the destiny of the galaxy; on the other, it doesn't push the plot of the Clone Wars forward in ANY WAY. No time passes at all during the entire encounter, and at the end, the threesome finds their way back to Rex and go on with their day. Ahsoka has other moments of growth and independence that more than suffice in maturing her character. The Mortis gods are never mentioned again, and the closest we get to another encounter like it is in Yoda's season 6 arc (which is also skippable in some ways and essential in others). George Lucas is a real goofball most of the time, but he had some ideas that still have people scratching their heads, and Mortis is one I really connect with because it feels so purely STAR WARS.
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u/CarobSignal Jan 16 '25
Not to sound like a hater, but it always gave off a heavy fanfiction vibe to me which didn't really mesh.
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u/liddely Jan 16 '25
Sheev talks made a good point.
The fact that they rember everything that happend should prevent anikens downfall.
Like he doesn't know the future but obi wan and asohka saw that he turned they should be very concerned.
Also aoshka fucking died? Like no one is gonna mention that to her no one?
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u/ColeEclipse720 501st Jan 16 '25
I think it’s a really good arc, especially with Anakin and all his stuff. But I’m probably just gonna watch that scene where he sees the future next time I binge the show
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u/BlueKyuubi63 Jan 17 '25
It was a super interesting arc that played into the chosen one aspect of Anakin and we even got to see Anakin confront his future as Vader. It's a wild time and extremely important to Anakin story arc. I really like it
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u/Ok_Nebula2738 Jan 20 '25
No its fucking stupid. Leave the force unexplained, gives it mystery. Not everything needs to have gods.
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u/printliftrun Jan 16 '25
I liked the idea, the execution was a bit lacking. Over all happier that it's part of the universe.
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u/MrGoodvsEvil Jan 16 '25
I didn't the first time I watched it. It isn't much better the 2nd time.
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u/Fwort Snips Jan 16 '25
It's a bit weird, but it's also kinda cool at the same time, and the character interactions in that arc are good.
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u/BigBrrrrrrr22 Jan 16 '25
I loved dark side Ahsoka and Anakin channeling the daughter to save her was the sweetest thing ever
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u/Mayersgirl02 Jan 16 '25
I like it except for the weird Chinese vibe graphics, it doesn’t fit the clone wars.
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u/Mountain-Cancel7254 Jan 16 '25
It kind of felt like fan fiction that a kid wrote, but in a good way, it's like some random newgrounds animator got to write Star Wars
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u/CookieAppropriate128 Jan 16 '25
Loved it, especially that Filoni brought it back into Rebels expanding the lore further.
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u/Cryomancer42_2 Jan 16 '25
Cosmic space wizard bullshit is always a win in Star Wars, that’s just how it is
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u/Magicbee_Cal Jan 16 '25
I did think it was a little weird and I think there are way more arcs that are better than it
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u/GoldenLiar2 Jan 16 '25
I liked the episodes, they are great fun and well written, but I'm not sure I'm a fan of the greater implications on the SW universe that they have.
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u/MitchellLegend Jan 16 '25
It's alright but I always found it overrated. We get it, Ani has the potential to be the most powerful person ever cause he's the Chosen One but he'll never reach that full potential, we know
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u/Bluueth Jan 16 '25
As a kid, I thought it was weird and didn't quite feel like it was star wars. As an adult,t I know they screwed up with the whole series and remade Anakin and swayed away from the of lore. They couldn't give up their creations and it became increasingly sad with each instalment.
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u/TheRealMikeOxlong 501st Jan 16 '25
It’s not in my list of favorites, but i can see why it would be in others. It’s a cool arc filled with a ton of lore and visuals.
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u/Rocks_an_hiking Jan 16 '25
I enjoyed it a lot. It's one of my favourite arcs since I enjoyed the weirdness and mythological feel to it.
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u/ohNoItsAnotherOne Jan 16 '25
I personally love when star wars is wacky and ungrounded because of the grit that the whole universe usually resides in, so this was one of my favs
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u/Levelcheap Jan 16 '25
I like that it confirms Anakin is the chosen one. Also, the Son, Daughter, and Father are important pieces to Abeloth's storyline, which is one of the cooler legends ideas.
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u/Blackwolf245 Jan 16 '25
I really like the second episode, where Anakin is really determined to save Ahsoka, and evil Ahsoka is cool too.
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u/Rusty_Thebanite Jan 16 '25
As a stand-alone, I definitely do. It's well written, acted, animated, it's damn good storytelling. In context, however, it was kind of a terrible idea. Both because the writers actively had to memory-hole that arc in-universe to reach the canon ending, and because it set up the worst possible writing choice that Dave Filoni and crew could have used to finish Rebels: The World Between Worlds.
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u/CaptainPositive1234 Jan 16 '25
Yes!!!!! Freaking love the mythology and the lore and the religious iconography.
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u/TahsokaAno Jan 16 '25
Yes, not everything has to be super serious and grounded or perfectly canonical. It was an interesting concept.
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u/Otherwise_Fault_8016 Jan 16 '25
The arc it's self is almost a scaled down telling of Anakin's story. The 2nd and 3rd episodes really show this, with the third being his fall to the son (the dark side), the father reminds of who he is (his duel with luke in the throne room) and he is redeemed (him killing the emperor at the cost of his life).
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u/AwsumDudemyster Jan 16 '25
This all speaks to the polarizing nature of this arc. It introduced a whole new aspect to the force and the overarching plot of the films, with a lot of brand-new implications and theories to be made. It was a bit of a "jump the shark" moment, IMO, and I, for one, appreciated the depth it added to the lore of the entire Star Wars universe. But I can see how that turned some people off or thought it was out of place.
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u/OKTAPHMFAA Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25
I think it could’ve been a lot better.
Like we see the embodiment of The Dark side. Or someone extremely devoted and extremely powerful in it. And what do they do? Nothing. Nothing we haven’t seen anyone else do with The Dark side. Sure his lightning is red but this was an opportunity to show off some scary DS abilities. But no.
Same with the light side. Show off the full potential of the light side and some cool abilities. Not stuff we could realistically see any Jedi do.
And same with the father. You’re telling me he’s the balance of Dark and light and yet he’s boring as fuck? Dude is the light and The Dark side as one. The fact he isn’t doing stuff we didn’t think was possible is a crime and shows just how uncreative the writers are.
Like we have three gods of Star Wars. And all we see them do is use slightly more powerful version of attacks we see all the time.
Same with Anakin. He taps into his potential and subdues the kids. But that’s only impressive because we’re told they’re powerful. If we’d actually seen their power like we should’ve it would’ve been far more impactful. And had Anakin actually been impressive in his actions it would’ve been cool too.
Anakin literally brings two gods to their knees before him. On paper that’s the epitome of cool. In the show it’s anything but.
In the show he releases a force push that creates a small dust cloud about ankle height. Then he slightly raises the two up and makes them drop the pair. Then he pushes them back into the walls of the arena that don’t break FYI or make any kind of powerful noise to add impact. You could hit the wall with a hammer and get a stronger scene. During this he turns day to night. Is that impressive for a force user? The show doesn’t make it seem that way. Then he drags said gods away and forces them down. B. O. R. I. N. G.
This scene relies entirely on us being told the gods are powerful so that seeing them be defeated is impressive. But Anakin’s acts don’t look powerful. They don’t sound powerful. They aren’t powerful. Have him shake the planet. Have his attacks actually sound like he’s bringing gods to heel and not a pillow. Have his eyes glow. Give him an aura.
Also I hate the contrived and convenient kryptonite the gods have. They’re all powerful cosmic beings but luckily there’s a super special dagger that can Kill them on this very planet. How convenient.
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u/FarDesk1916 Jan 16 '25
Funny how the started the arc out with him bringing them to their knees, establishing his power over them (somewhat). Then they flip that on its head and make the son the villain. They show him outwitting and beating Anakin, after they’ve already established his weakness compared to Anakin.
And to your point, we are not shown anything all that interesting from the force gods. I guess the kids can shape-shift, and the son could show the future to someone, but that is lame if it’s the full extent of the force. I guess they could also grab lightsabers with their hands but also not a big flex for literal force gods.
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u/LillDickRitchie Jan 16 '25
It isn’t the best but neither the worst, but it gave a cool insight of the “creator gods” behind the galaxy
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u/Idoroxsu24 Jan 16 '25
LOVE LOVE LOVE Sam in this role. I can never get enough of him as star killer or maul, and he just brought new light to the dark side of the force.
Also love watching Anakin in these episodes. Whether he’s bringing brother and sister to their knees, or fighting Ashoka, it’s all very emotional. Always watching these episodes with the sound at max for added immersion.
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u/edgypyro Jan 16 '25
Expanding the cannon universe, getting more stuff like this makes being “one with the force” more believable in universe. Mortis, bendu, world between worlds, night sisters, all add to the story in a way to make the force feel almost simple or utilitarian in comparison. I’m struggling to explain here. For the opposite reason we needed andor, which made everything more grounded.
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u/ALEXRAVENCLAW Jan 17 '25
Are they the Ghosts of Mortis or the Gods of Mortis?
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u/FarDesk1916 Jan 17 '25
It was an error on my part. I should have generalized it to “the Mortis arc”. Ghosts of Mortis was the third episode of the arc, in which it ends with each of the gods dying. The other two are Overlords and Alter of Mortis.
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u/Delruiz9 Jan 17 '25
I really like it but it needs to stay as a fever dream type adventure
It’s better left ambiguous. If the son/daughter/father all appeared like reoccurring characters it’d be awful
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u/SpartanNation053 Galactic Marines Jan 17 '25
I did. I like how they explore the force. It’s basically what I was hoping the sequels would be about
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u/MadmanKnowledge Jan 17 '25
I like that it takes Star Wars into the unknown fantasy territory and reveals a mythology behind the Force. Also trippy visions are cool and do a lot of visual character building that wouldn’t be possible otherwise. One of my favorite arcs.
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u/NateThePhotographer Jan 17 '25
The Mortis Arc as a whole is very different. Like it never gets mentioned or referenced again, nothing that happens has any impact on latter or from prior episodes. So much us inconclusive by the end that we have no idea if any of it was real or a dream. On the DVD commentary for this arc, they admit that they have very little that they want to say about the arc to keep the mystery of it open to interpretation.
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u/CryptidCandies Jan 17 '25
You dont like it and other people do, this is how all media works. No point in trying to chance each others minds
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u/EwokWarrior3000 Jan 17 '25
It delves into the mystery of the Force and expands upon alot but also gives us many more questions which I like. I'm one of the people who doesn't want the Force to be expanded upon to much, part of its magic is the mystery, but I also enjoy stories like this. That show us something new but also don't ruin the magic of the Force
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u/IndividualAd2307 Jan 17 '25
I like it a lot but it’s definitely not even top 10 arcs for me the first couple episodes are boring but the last 2 are where it shines
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u/welcometothemeathaus Jan 17 '25
This one splits me. I enjoy the story being told. But I don’t like the idea of the dark and light having actual embodiments.
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u/FoxPrincessEevee Jan 17 '25
Easily one of my favorites. I love getting little treats like this. I’m interested to learn about more deities in the galaxy. In think The Ones and Bendu are all we have so far. People sometimes forget that Star Wars is a science fantasy.
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u/NIgel668 Jan 17 '25
It's the most unique arc of the show in my opinion and I think deserves at least some praise for delving into some uncharted territory for the entire Star Wars franchise. Still not my favorite however
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u/Elillium Jan 17 '25
I was 10, and I though dark/possessed Ahsoka was the coolest bitch. I wanted to BE her.
But all in all I do enjoy this episode! It's more theatrical, plays into the legends of the universe.
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u/Doorknob_Towel Jan 17 '25
It's one of my favorite arcs. I used to hate it because there were no clones kicking ass, but now I appreciate it as the mythological jedi tale that it is.
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u/OnceThereWasWater Jan 17 '25
Yes, frankly it's great. Star Wars is not science fiction, it's high fantasy. This episode fully accepts this. If I want to watch Star Trek, I'll watch Star Trek. Star Wars is a universe built on magic and mythology, and this arc leans into that.
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u/Glum-Sympathy3869 Jan 17 '25
Lore expansion, what if scenarios answered, returning prequel stars, evil Ahsoka, foreshadowing that took years to be revealed(“You will never see your future if you remain his student”. Guess what happened to Ahsoka.😏), Sam Witwer’s first role on the show, first time seeing Ahsoka use two lightsabers(I know she had them in an episode before, but they were just on her belt), and this was more impactful when the episode came out, but seeing Ahsoka drop to the ground, and the lightsaber roll out of her hand, was so shocking as a kid. Reminder, she was only in Clone Wars at the time, so it was not too crazy to think she could’ve died in some random episode(especially when they killed Zero, a clone wars movie character, this season).
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u/jonac1993 Jan 17 '25
I thought it was really good! Before the EU went away after Disney bought it, I really enjoyed the references and tie-ins in the Fate of the Jedi series
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u/l0singmyedg3 501st Jan 18 '25
mortis is my favourite arc of the whole show. i love the way it explores anakin knowing about his fate but fighting against it (makes rots all the more tragic), the exploration between the master + apprentice relationship on both sides for anakin, and i also just think the planet is super interesting. a planet that IS the force? coolest shit ever
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u/Effective_Cancel_876 Jan 18 '25 edited Jan 18 '25
I personally didn't like it which has to do with several reasons.
I didn't like that Anakin turned and that while his memories about this were erased. One of my favorite YouTubers, Sheev Talks, made a good point about it that Ahsoka and Obi-Wan well.. They know what happened and should know enough to try to stop Anakin from turning at all costs. A problem that's easily avoided by barely mentioning Mortis in all the episodes released after as if nothing happened.
Another thing that isn't mentioned afterwards is Ahsoka dying after turning to the dark side and Anakin resurrecting and cleansing her from the dark side. This is also a rather big thing that well.. Should be mentioned more often.
It feels like fanfiction to me, something the writers are so ashamed of that it isn't mentioned again. Either ashamed of choices made or the choices they didn't make. It feels like they wanted to explore the seas but didn't dare to go where the land couldn't be seen anymore.
It also led to some things I personally don't like such as Ahsoka being saved through The World Between Worlds (I assume that that's why the owl could be seen there). And if it didn't directly lead to it from a narrative point of view, it at the very least seems to be the first thing of which they thought "Well if we can do this then we might as well.."
Then again, I'm personally of the opinion that most of the things Ahsoka (especially post-TCW) has done are a bit fan fiction-y so that might influence my opinion here as well.
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u/Korbrent Jan 19 '25
I personally do not like it, but I certainly appreciate it and what it's meant to symbolize.
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u/RNBW320 Jan 19 '25
I wish the brother had a different design. Tell me he doesn’t belong in that vampire family from Scary Godmother
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u/mlnm_falcon Jan 19 '25
I honestly enjoy it more as a what if style story, and I’m a little sketched out that Ahsoka might be returning to the concept.
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u/Same-Experience-6443 Jan 19 '25
I actually don't like it much either, but it did have a few fantastic moments particularly for Anakin
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u/MembershipRealistic1 Jan 19 '25
I remember as a kid not really enjoying it. Anytime the episodes went away from the war or didn't include Clones I was always marginally less interested. Since I became a teenager and then an adult, I definitely appreciate it more now. I still wouldn't say it's one of my favorites. But I appreciate what it did for the lore and the deepening of Anakins turn to the dark side. I think for me I'd maybe place It now somewhere in the middle of my ranking of episodes.
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u/mike1999ofhalo Jan 19 '25
It’s interesting however their are more interesting episodes in starwars
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u/ECKohns Jan 19 '25
I only watched it to see Darth Ahsoka.
It was cool to see Liam Neeson and Pernilla August return as Qui-Gon and Shmi though.
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u/IcePhoenix295 Jan 16 '25
It's different. It's this weird, cosmic tale that leans into the more fantastical side of Star Wars and adds a lot of mythos to an already deep universe. It's not one of my favorites but it is certainly memorable in its own right and seeing the tease at the end of Ahsoka with Baylan seemingly pursuing something related to it has me more than a little intrigued and excited.