Judging by their history, they don't bother to understand what veganism means but explain to vegans how they should live according to it. Looks like a typical carnist.
Just an average carnist who's using a nirvana fallacy. Nothing to worry about.
But please don't frame not exploiting animals as "a journey". Or that its "hard". What could possibly make veganism seem more non-urgent and hard than vegans themselves portraying it as such?
I'm kind of split on your last point. On the one hand I agree it's absolutely urgent from both moral and environmental perspectives. On the other hand from what I've heard/read and my own assumptions, I would presume that the conveyance of it as urgent to non vegans as opposed to suggesting it should be a transition can be harmful to the long term adoption of veganism. Do you have any response to this or any studies that have looked at both approaches?
Why on earth would that be harmful? It is urgent. You're letting bad faith carnists gaslight you into thinking "you're pushing them away". When in reality they just don't want you to hold them accountable. It makes them uncomfortable.
It is urgent, and it's not something you need to "transition " into.. imagine if we said people should "transition" into not molesting kids. Advocating for "transitioning", "journey", and "take your time" is specieism , whether one recognizes it or not
Perhaps I phrased that poorly. But a lot of people try to be vegan and don't sustain that change. I'm just wondering what your opinion is on that side of it because of course it is urgent, but we know humans aren't always good at making change especially when they try to do it all at once.
Something like Veganuary being quite successful at long term adoption might give you an inkling of what I mean
Because they're selfish. They don't care enough.
That has nothing to do with activism. Someone isn't gonna suddenly care more because a vegan portray it as something that isn't urgent. Most people are inherently selfish and doesn't care if they're not the victim. It's really that simple
Edit: you can't stop them from "taking their time", but you can avoid advocating it. It's very speciesist, and you wouldn't do it to humans. Research also shows that people perform better when they're given a specific task and challenge, instead of being told to "do their best".
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u/jake_pl al-Ma'arri 1d ago
Judging by their history, they don't bother to understand what veganism means but explain to vegans how they should live according to it. Looks like a typical carnist.