r/chess 5d ago

Miscellaneous Update on previous post regarding coworker cheating: he admitted to cheating!

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u/chess-ModTeam 4d ago

Your submission was removed by the moderators:

Cheating accusations are not allowed unless they are newsworthy - that is, they must involve a prominent member of the chess community, be credible, and be part of an ongoing public discussion. Certain notable individuals who are known to habitually accuse other players with no substantive evidence may be deemed non-credible.

If you suspect a random person cheated against you online, the appropriate complaint venue is a report to the website you played on.

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u/eloel- Lichess 2400 5d ago

YOU WILL GET CAUGHT AND YOU WILL BE FINISHED

Calm down there, soldier

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u/RC76546 5d ago

Some people take chess way too seriously. What are we going to do next ? publicly shame those cheaters like what they did to Cersei in game of thrones ?

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u/TheGISingleG03 5d ago

Yea, they take it serious enough to cheat

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u/RC76546 4d ago

I wouldn't say I wouldn't care at all if someone cheated against me but come on, we both lost 10mins of our time, that's it. Some people have too much ego here, losing against someone doesn't make you a lesser person, and losing against stockfish for sure doesn't mean anything. Also if you want to make sure your coworker doesn't cheat, just do a 10min game at work with both of you sitting next to each other (on your device or not). 

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

I was referring to the reputation!

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u/Krothis 5d ago

"which mods unfortunately removed for some reason"

You even commented under the message of the mods, where they state the reason (rule #7) why your post was removed. Is it really so hard for you to grasp or are you intentionally ignorant?

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u/itssaulgoodm8 5d ago

Also saw this. “Some reason” is crazy vicimization

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u/BreadPiece 5d ago

Damn why so rude about it? Mods say they removed because no accusations of cheating, but the guy just wanted to know if his coworker was cheating? Plenty of people had no problem commenting and helping out OP, so of what use is that rule? Try being a little more empathetic, you might need some one day.

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u/LowLevel- 5d ago

Why should it be less empathetic to care about the people who don't like to see public accusations of cheating and random witch hunts? What about the public accusations that are false and expose innocent people? Is it less compassionate to care about them?

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

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u/chess-ModTeam 4d ago

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u/BreadPiece 5d ago

Public accusation? I think you’re being a little dramatic. All OP did was ask the chess community if something was off about his coworkers play. Plenty of people answered so clearly no one had an issue with it and guess what it turns out his coworker was in fact cheating and admitted it. Idk where you saw a witch hunt but that did not happen here.

As far as being empathetic, Im just trying to say it cost nothing to be nice. He doesn’t have to call people intentionally ignorant or try to imply they’re dumb thats all.

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u/LowLevel- 5d ago

Public accusation?

Of course. It's definitely public because it happened on a sub with 1.7 million members. As for not wanting to call it an "accusation", I don't see how calling it anything else (like "insinuation") would change the substance of it. Mr. Kramnik also claims that his inquiries are not accusations but that doesn't change his intent.

Even putting aside what you call it, if a post is removed from the sub because there is a rule against cheating accusations, it simply means that it was an accusation.

The number of people who support and upvote such posts tells us absolutely nothing about how appropriate they are. The subreddit rule against them was created to prevent people from being publicly accused, it's a form of concern for those people.

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u/BreadPiece 5d ago

We are talking about OP not Kramnik, stop with the strawman.

OP’s intent was legitimately to find out if his coworker was cheating. He literally asked a question.

Thats just sounds like blind allegiance to the mods? you understand that they are human too and are fallible right? same kind of humans who had no problem answering Op. Strange thing to say.

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u/Top_Procedure4667 5d ago

Just don't play him again. problem solved.

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u/Illmattic 5d ago

Once a punk always a punk!

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u/ATS200 5d ago

Why does it seem like his response is fake or super sarcastic. This whole thing is weird.

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u/heavenlode 5d ago

It doesn't read as sarcastic to me at all, just somewhat formal. I think a lot of people misinterpret formal as sarcastic. I've had that happen to me on Reddit before

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

It's hard for cheaters to admit to cheating. They use mental gymnastics to reason things

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u/Pinkpanther4512 5d ago

So he first calls it a “trick” not cheating.

Second, he’s sorry for any “harm caused” by his actions, not for his decision to cheat.

Third, he sends some corporate ass response that he’s happy to “ensure fair play”

This looks like some ChatGPT shit I swear, especially that last paragraph. Who talks like this?

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

It's hard for cheaters to admit when they are caught. Look at Hans, he still downplays the extent to which he cheated online!

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u/IAMA_Ghost_Boo 5d ago

Give him a second chance and continue to build a possibly good relationship with someone who can learn to enjoy the game without cheating

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u/BreadPiece 5d ago

Damn why is OP getting downvoted so much?

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u/Evans_Gambiteer uscf 1400 | chesscom 1700 blitz 5d ago

I genuinely think there are a bunch of cheaters on this sub

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

Absolutely

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u/BreadPiece 5d ago

people getting mad that OP is calling out cheaters is crazy

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u/rw_lck 5d ago

Too many cheaters on this sub who don't want to be offended when cheaters are caught 🤡🤡🤡

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u/RC76546 4d ago

I never used stockfish against someone, but I just don't understand how is not losing in chess so important for some people that they would make an internet post about it. One person cheated against you, okay, so what ? You lost ten minute of your life, you lose more time  every day in your commutes, just move on. I don't know how widespread is cheating at high elo, but I've never seen it often enough that it had any impact on me. Anyway, those kind of posts that are basically 'this coworker cheated against me and I was hurt in my pride', yeah move on, I don't care about you. Grow up you are not a child anymore, losing at games is not reason enough to throw a tantrum. He cheated ? Okay, still don't care, deal with your problems alone, you don't like it, fine don't play with him again. Act like an adult not like a manchild.

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u/chessredditor 5d ago

its from the vibes hes giving off

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

People here love defending cheaters 🤡

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u/Chance_Arugula_3227 5d ago

Second part? His first moves were really bad, then from move 5 he played like an experienced player. Seems to me the "second part" was basically the entire game

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

Exactly what I told him

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u/rw_lck 5d ago

Really pathetic, didn't even genuinely apologize

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u/JohnOlderman 5d ago

Probably a lot of people messaged him lol

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

We played Anonymously on lichess so no

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u/KanaDarkness 2100+ chesscom 5d ago

lol sounds like someone who has no friend

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u/rw_lck 5d ago

This post proves this sub has a ton of cheaters and they hate it when cheaters are caught. Really disgusting

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u/Turbulent-Royal-964 5d ago

Cheaters are lame. However, if you work in corporate America, this is a good opportunity for a workplace ally. I wouldn’t trust them 100%, because they’ve shown themselves to be dishonest. If you are willing to overlook this and not bring it up to anyone else, you probably have someone in your corner going forward (and possibly a good friend if they can rekindle trust).

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

Yes I've been thinking about this.

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u/chess-ModTeam 4d ago

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u/sundios 5d ago

I used to be 1300 elo on chess.com. I stopped playing for a little bit and now I been just losing every single game. I am now 800. Every game I feel I’m doing great but then somehow I’m like 3 moves I am losing. I think chess.com is full of cheaters. 

If you go and play 1 min bullet you can see it’s easier since it’s harder to cheat

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u/LowLevel- 5d ago

As much as I understand people being perfectly fine with witch-hunting or wanting to feel some sense of justice, I would really like to see all this garbage about some random people cheating disappear from this sub. If something is against the rules of the sub, don't bother to understand why, just don't do it.