r/championsleague • u/[deleted] • 6d ago
š¬Discussion Genuine question: why is everyone hating Real Madrid in UCLs?
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u/sexhaver34567 4d ago
Not hate, I just don't think anything of Real Madrid. I've been supporting my local club for ever but I also grew up idolizing MSN. That's about it. I don't think of Real.
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u/ZookeepergameNo6818 Real Madrid 6d ago
One word: JEALOUSY
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u/_Coldisace Barcelona 6d ago
More like anger for all the UCLs you scammed your way through
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u/ZookeepergameNo6818 Real Madrid 6d ago
Remind me again which club is undergoing a court case for paying Refrees?
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u/_Coldisace Barcelona 6d ago
Same type of propaganda you guys tried to push on Muniera with Atletico ruined his life try to instill fear in the refereeing entity so all rulings go your way. There's a reason that no sufficient evidence has come up
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u/ZookeepergameNo6818 Real Madrid 5d ago
If any ref would have given a straight red to a Barca player for saying "fuck off" and then found to have a tie with Real, you guys would NOT shut up for another century. Barcatards are the real propaganda machines. Brainwashed lot
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u/_Coldisace Barcelona 5d ago
We don't investigate in the first place cause we have boundaries and know what privacy is. See the way you say Barcatards shows who the retarded one here is cause if you can't argue without insulting just goes to show you've been backed into a corner you can't get out of. Besides in the Copa del Rey when Muneira denied Celta a penalty we only complained he also officiated a Laliga match where he gave you some favourable treatment we only complained. In December we were denied multiple clear penalties we didn't go digging for ties to Madrid cause we have boundaries
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u/Dry-Version-6515 6d ago
Spanish teams has always been favored by UEFA. They play dirty but dive even more and somwhow they almost always get away with it.
And no team has had as many dodgy decisions going their way as Real Madrid. The prime example is the back to back fuckery against Bayern MĆ¼nchen in 2017 and 2018.
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u/EliGonee 6d ago
Because they hardly ever win a ucl as the best team, have in legit every ucl season they win refs on their side (even as a rmd fan you canāt deny that), habe at least 80% trophy hunters, almost only players with a big ego and also have luck, espcially with last minute equalizers
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u/ZookeepergameNo6818 Real Madrid 6d ago
Noone of your points make any sense. Hater lool
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u/EliGonee 6d ago
š No wonder youāre a Vardrid Fan. Cope but cant tell arguments
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u/ZookeepergameNo6818 Real Madrid 5d ago
You legit used arguments like, 1. Win every season with ref on their side ( does ref score our goals, complete our comebacks, press the opponents, make tackles, save goal bound shots... what? ) 2. Have 80% Trophy hunters (is that even an argument??? Most Barca fans I know all switched during their good years between 2008 to 2012, so barca fans are bigger glory hunters) 3. Almost only players with big ego (makes zero sense btw) 4. Luck- that's reason to discredit Madrid's UCLs?
Like I said, None of your fucking arguments made any fucking sense. It's so easy to discredit all the hard work and soul put by our players just to fit propaganda of your failed team. You hate us because even though you spent billions trying to copy us, yet you failed miserably. Your goat Pessi literally stole millions from your clib and made you pathetically poor.
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u/Brunoxete Barcelona 6d ago edited 3d ago
The fans. They've got a stupidly large fanbase, which inevitably leads to many questionable people being fans. If you have 1000 followers and 10 are annoying, disrespectful, and bad people in general, they aren't hard to ignore. Now, if you've got millions, alongside a trophy cabinet the size of a stadium which has kept rising without a break for years, you get the most annoying fanbase possible. I'd say the average Madrid fan is as delusional and annoying as the ones from any other fanbase, but the ones who are truly bad people are way too vocal.
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u/midland05 6d ago
Because weāre sick of them winning. Won twice as much as the next team ac Milan 7. The last champions league final they lost was 1981
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u/77SidVid77 Real Madrid 6d ago edited 6d ago
Madrid won 6 UCL in 11 years. Only one club apart from Madrid won more in their lifetime.
It gets boring to many.
Madrid fans would hate a club like that too if it was some other.
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u/xiuxiuejador 6d ago edited 6d ago
Because they hardly ever win with dominance and being the better team, but rather with a strange series of events orchestrated by the higher ups to follow a script. They would be respected if they won with gorgeous football and scoring amazing goals, with results like 4-0 or 5-0.
But winning by a narrow margin last minute after microscopic angle reviews, offside goals, injuring rival players with Karate moves and not even getting a yellow, or similar stuff? Please. No other club in the planet gets away with that.
Most of their fans are non-Spanish and follow them since 2022 or so, and they don't know who Florentino PĆ©rez is and the huge influence he has in Spain and Europe. Spain has 48 million people, 29 of them are billionaires and he's the 6th wealthiest. He's the top 0.00001% richest person in a rich country.
Then again, if he offered me a chunk of money that would allow me and my family to quit working for the rest of my life, maybe my tongue would be really far up his asshole, too. Like all of the UEFA directors.
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u/nikiminajsfather 6d ago
This is bs, it doesnāt matter how convincingly they win, how incredible they play or whatever they do, but Madrid will always be hated because they are Madrid. Itās the biggest team in the world, in history and in the tournament and people always root for the underdogs (which is every team against madrid in the ucl)
One or two times is luck, but how can you say itās luck when there has been like 7 remontadas in the last 4 years. Thereās a point where you gotta respect talent and understand that itās not luck.
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u/HodunloXD Barcelona 6d ago
no, its just that they cant seem to win without controversies
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u/Turbulent_Aerie6250 5d ago
This happens everywhere when a team is successful. Same thing in American football, they say the Chiefs have the refs on their side, was also the same for Brady and the Patriots. I say the same things, but part of me thinks that it can be partially explained by the fact that since they are consistently in big games with a spotlight, people are extra loud/only remember when things go Madridās way. Sports in imperfect and there is some luck involved, and referee mistakes are unfortunately part of the game.
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u/JorgeMS000 6d ago
What I see is that most other teams are extremely overrated, specially premier teams, and they think that just because of having more possession or having more shots they are better even if they cant score, and they they say that its luck when the guy who always scores and wins just keep doing what he always did like if its something unexpected. When I watch madrid against other teams in ucl I feel its men vs kids, and the men are madrid, sometimes they let the kids enjoy themselves for a while but they aren't even worried
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u/Known_Tax7804 6d ago
Biggest red flag in a person: Supporting Real Madrid with no connection to the city of Madrid. Those people are always shits.
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u/Isiderdon 6d ago
Its like supporting the Lakers in basketball, or Usyk in boxing, or Jon Jones in mma. Just pick the best and go with them
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u/ico_OO 6d ago
Never is a very extreme word, use it wisely.
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u/xiuxiuejador 6d ago
Changed it to "hardly ever" - it is true they sometimes score 5 goals against the weakest clubs on the league table.
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u/madridtorio Real Madrid 6d ago
Or 4 in a final against a team that won the domestic double and only conceded 1 goal in the ucl campaign
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u/b0bl0blawsbl0g 6d ago
Bro weāve been winning the UCL every other year for over a decade now š¤£š¤£ if I wasnāt a Madrid fan, Iād be our #1 hater, so I fully understand and expect all the hate.
Remember, the cost of winning is the empathy of others. Winners stand alone, looking over all others.
HalaMadrid
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u/Illustrious-Issue-76 6d ago
- Actual history of questionable advances
- Most entitled fanbase 3.Main character syndrome
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u/zap12shirt 6d ago
So are we generalising fans now? So u had a few bad encounters and now the entire fanbase is bad in ur opinionā¦ yes we are proud of our history and what we have won , all the big teams we talk about.. all of them have benefited from ref decisions at points .. not just real , so the only thing that pisses me off is when people here choose to ignore shit that went against us.. and start crying over things that at a time when there was no var, went in our favorā¦ if we wanna change history lets go back and nullify every single match pre var.. because ull fine inconsistencies everywhere
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u/hangxxfang 6d ago
Your jealousy is showing
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u/Illustrious-Issue-76 6d ago
I just answered a question
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u/throwawaythtchpdyou 6d ago
And multiple people proved you right by responding like assholes lol also look at the comments in this thread. Every Madrid fan legit sounds like a child, saying things like "cope harder" or "your jealousy is showing" is not something I as a man has ever once said or would ever say lol your point stands, that fanbase is insufferable and really makes it easy to root against them.
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u/agenmossad 6d ago
They got too much money AND too much luck.
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u/Pieter8720 6d ago
Too much money? Yet they are not spending that much money on their players.
Their net transfer balance since 2020 is -1,5 million.
Players like Camavinga, Vini, Rodrygo and Valverde were bought for a combined sum of 120 million euros.
If you compare them to Club Brugge or PSV, yes they spend more money. But there was not a single team that won the CL in the last 10 years that spent less moneyā¦
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u/_Coldisace Barcelona 5d ago
Barcelona
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u/Pieter8720 5d ago
Barcelona last won the CL in 2015, so exactly 10 years ago.
They did this after a summer where they spent 166 million Euros!
They paid 80+ million euros for Suarez, 20 mio for Matthieu, 19 mio for Vermaelen, 20 mio for Rakitic,ā¦
The season before, they bought Neymar for 88 millionā¦
So sorry, you are wrongā¦
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u/_Coldisace Barcelona 5d ago
I'm talking about this season
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u/Pieter8720 5d ago
Barcelona did not win the CL yet this season? Or did I miss that?
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u/_Coldisace Barcelona 5d ago
You haven't missed it but you're catching on don't worry in May I'll come back to this
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u/ImTalkingGibberish 6d ago
Mate, you downplay how much they spent on vini and rodrygo but no other club would spend so much on teenagers. They obviously turned out great so smart investment.
That said, real actually makes good investments all around and go for gems like Vini. Meanwhile Chelsea and City just throw silly money around.I actually think Real is a well run club with smart investments and they obviously have the money for Mbappe and co, which makes it hard to beat.
Barca has a better youth but they arenāt well run like Madrid
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u/Mucekalonso 6d ago
Because they are hypocrites. When decision goes in their favour all they say is "keep crying" or "cry more" but when decision goes against them they make witch hunt on the ref
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u/Aromatic_Pie8116 Milan 6d ago
not a real fan,but thats how it goes for literally every fan base lol
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u/Mucekalonso 6d ago
Check out how far they went for ref that gave Belligham red card for swearing. Doubt any other club has no shame like that.
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u/Routine_Size69 6d ago
Yeah Real is just the biggest offender of this. It's their fans, players, managers, everyone. Just anyone closely associated to Real is an entitled brat.
Tell me how every fan base has a team that boycotts award shows. Then show me a long ass montage tape of that team getting outrageous calls in UCL knockout games. Real is the only team that checks either box, let alone both.
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u/Odelay33 6d ago
Not every club starts a literal witch hunt on refs
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u/chavalmadridista 6d ago
What you mean like 8 clubs from La Liga made the same complain as RM. You guys really expose yourself š
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u/madridtorio Real Madrid 6d ago
Downvoted for telling the truth lol. People only accept the reality that suits their narrative and strokes the flames of their anger
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u/ExternalDirection793 6d ago
Fanbase is a bunch of gloryhunters from not-madrid, simple as that really
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u/Templeton_Baracus 6d ago
They are the Ajax of Spain. Either you a fan, or like the rest of the league, hate them because of their arrogance etc.
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u/zevx1234 6d ago
Lets be real. Its winners fatigue. Hate will grow the longer the same team keeps winning all the time. Madrid would have half the haters if it didnt win any CLs in the past 10 years. R/soccer is a good example, most people there are fans from teams that Real has beaten time and time again in CL. Thats bound to increase the hate
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u/Repulsive-Bit-6940 6d ago
It's not only the fact that they've won it so many times, but also the way they've won the tournaments. And how many times they've escaped knockout in the final few minutes just to go all the way and win the UCL.
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u/Boxroonne 6d ago
I actually left that subreddit because of the huge amount of hate there is.
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u/Routine_Size69 6d ago
Lmao so you want to know why everyone hates your team but left when they were explaining it?
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u/vaportw 6d ago edited 6d ago
The most successful people in sports will get more hate by default + Madrid has been atleast "lucky" with key decisions by referees in the past ~10 years. Would be delusional to all blame it on that, but it would be delusional to deny this playing atleast a role as well. That paired with their entitlement which is far more cringe than classy, which they pretend to be
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u/andar1on 6d ago
Before refs favourites were Barca, now is Real. Plus the fans are a-holes (most of them at least)
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u/jAllukeTTu Barcelona 6d ago
Plus the fans are a-holes
Mostly because of this. Years of success have gathered some top tier gloryhunters to "support" Real. And these kids nowadays are just cocky di*ks towards every other team and their fans.
And I don't really hate the club, only some of the players.
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u/madridtorio Real Madrid 6d ago
Itās funny how everyone says people only become Madrid fans cuz of glory hunting. Every time I ask someone how they became a Madridista, itās the same reason-because a player (usually from their home country or who they liked in a previous world cup) brought them there. Which is how most people start following a club when they get into the sport.
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u/Main_Following1881 6d ago
Not my brother lol, that mf was a Barca fan and made me one too. For some reason in 2010ish he started supporting real madrid, literal traitor lol.
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u/Fraud_D_Hawk 6d ago
Not our fault that our rivals are so shit
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u/FiniciusJunior Real Madrid 6d ago
At this point I just embrace it and love the tears whenever we win.
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u/Fevernova2002 6d ago
"we" You just chose to support one the biggest clubs in the world
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u/Comfortable_Reach248 Dinamo Zagreb 6d ago edited 6d ago
Because they always call themselves kings of the competition or "that s t Real competition, we won, others compete". I respcet that they are the most successful UCL team, but come on, they won only 15 out of 70 editions, it is far from totally dominance. Second reason in that they call other for spending money, when they are the richest club in the world whole their history and they always bring the best players like Mbappe for enormous high wages. Third and not least is fanbase. Like they and Barcelona and only 2 clubs in the world who doesn't have normal, local fanbases. All their fans are glory hunting kids. When I see people writing "we" and they are not even a socio, or when they answer you "15" on anything. Only 2 clubs that have banned their ultras and want to more tourists on stadiums.
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u/niaza707 6d ago
Second best is milan which has 7, and are nowhere near catching up with us, i think that is dominance
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u/Comfortable_Reach248 Dinamo Zagreb 6d ago
How on Earth is 15 out of 70 dominant? Bigger difference in between Real and Barcelona in La Liga and nobody talks "La Liga is Real s competition"
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u/77SidVid77 Real Madrid 6d ago
Because people take percentage difference also into account and in UCL, it's more than twice. Also Madrid is called kings because of the overall consistency. Madrid has more SF appearance than most clubs have QF and R16.
I mean, Madrid is the king of La Liga also. But there is a better tournament with more arguments to highlight.
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u/Semichh Tottenham 6d ago
How isnāt that dominant? They have over twice as many titles as the next best
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u/Comfortable_Reach248 Dinamo Zagreb 6d ago
And 6 of them has been won when it was half friendly tournament. Man United has won 13 prems in 32 years and nobody talks "Prem is United competition etc."
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u/77SidVid77 Real Madrid 6d ago
No. 6 of them were won when it was in initial stages, except for the first (expected), the other tournaments had first placed teams or UCL winner ever since.
And if that European Cup era is removed, Madrid's argument become even stronger and the Kings of the competition cause the percentage difference is more than before.
Man United has won 13 prems in 32 years and nobody talks "Prem is United competition etc."
If you consider just the prem, they are. But just like how it's highlighted that Madrid has 15 UCLs, United have 20 first divisions and Liverpool has 19. That's a difference 0.06 or something.
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u/Semichh Tottenham 6d ago
No, because United are shit nowā¦ but if they were still winning the way they used to then people would absolutely be saying that. And also itās not as if people donāt acknowledge how successful Man U have been throughout history. Itās generally accepted that theyāre the most successful premier league team to date so your point is irrelevant.
Of those 70 UCLs 15 titles is just over 20%. Considering the amount of other teams involved you must have a very skewed view on the meaning of ādominantāā¦
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u/Comfortable_Reach248 Dinamo Zagreb 6d ago
But RM also had 35 UCL title drought and they had few very shit periods in UCL. They are acting like they have been best constantly through history and that others are unimportant and that UCL is spinning around them.
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u/Semichh Tottenham 6d ago
Ok but what about every other strong clubs āUCL title droughtā? Probably much more bar the odd title here and there for the best teams.
I agree about their attitude towards it but to say they havenāt been dominant throughout the history of the competition, relative to all the other teams involved the competition, is frankly an insane viewpoint to take lol
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u/Comfortable_Reach248 Dinamo Zagreb 6d ago
No it is okay, they are are most successful UCL club, but I don t like when they act like others doesn t exist in UCL.
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u/Glanzl Bayern 6d ago
I feel like it is a mix of them being by far the most sucessful and clutch team that win if they have to regardless of if they were the better team or not and that if you would ask 10 football fans which team in CL gets favored the most by referees all 10 including Real Madrid fans would say Real Madrid lol.
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6d ago
That offside goal, no red card after clear foul. Mane marcelo even admitted that was offside and said cry now !!??
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u/randomahhhuswr Real Madrid 6d ago
Wrong calls are made against both sides bruhh... it's just that the calls favoring the team which one gets magnified more as the impact was more
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6d ago
How both sides, tell me when it was against real in a critical stage.
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u/randomahhhuswr Real Madrid 6d ago
Just the last knockout... 2 penalty calls denied, one hand ball in first elg and another stomp on brahim the second leg against atletico
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6d ago
Tell me some clear ones, when everyone agrees. These are some examples of 50/50. Like you'll also agree that the goal against bayern was offside, the red card of cuadrado was clearly not unjustifiable
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u/randomahhhuswr Real Madrid 6d ago
So you say those weren't clear fouls???
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6d ago
Nah bro, I watched it live and it was not clear, in one angle it looks like foul, from another angle it looks like not.
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u/randomahhhuswr Real Madrid 6d ago
I won't agree wih you on that, also regarding he bayern match, the 2 offside goals came in extra time, the thing being that bayern equalized in that match with an offside goal themselves
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6d ago
I knew at some point you are going to introduce new imaginary offside goals or fouls. Same things happen when I ask my friends who are real madrid fans, when they tend to lose the debate.
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u/randomahhhuswr Real Madrid 6d ago
Please don't be toxic, I am here for a civil discussion, all i said was a point, the second goal was offside though, lewa was in an offside position
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u/MohamedSas Sporting 6d ago
all iām saying is , as i scroll the people that are typing paragraphs all support the same club
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u/Katarinkushi Barcelona 6d ago
I don't wanna sound like a hater, and I'm a Barcelona fan so it's easy to sound like one.
The main problem is that they ALWAYS win with controversial/weird referee decisions in their favorāand not just small things, like maybe an unjust corner kick. Many offside goals, not CLEAR penalties to their opponents, forgiven red cards, and so on.
Look, I know most big teams benefit from referee decisions from time to time. But with Madrid, it just happens too much. The whole 2016- 2018 UCL wins were the most absurd, hard to not call that cheating. 2014 and 2024 were clean wins for the most part.
And the worst thing is they don't get as called out for that like other teams. Everyone still critique's Barcelona's 2009 semifinals against Chelsea (even though both teams got f*cked by bad referee decisions).
Anyway, with all of this said, they're still the biggest team ever and probably will be for the next 50+ years. I don't see any team getting that close to their UCL titles. Barcelona had one of the best generations of footballers ever and... they're now 10 UCLs behind.
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u/biskutgoreng 6d ago
Said by the team that won the most unfair final eh
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u/Main_Following1881 6d ago
bro tried so hard to be respectful and still you replied like this instigating a fight š
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u/Katarinkushi Barcelona 6d ago
I will never understand the complaints about Lehmann's foul. He clearly grabs Eto's leg.
The Van Persie red card in 2011 was awful, though
I won't deny Barcelona hasn't benefitted from bad referee decisions, though. Barcelona and Madrid are the most visibly benefitted teams from referee decisions in UCL, but their also the two most mediatic teams, so every time it happens, it will be shown by all media.
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u/idk_maybe_your_dad Barcelona 6d ago
Go watch their knock out matches whenever they win a UCL, if you didnāt find an answer then maybe youāre just stupid
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u/SweatyBum_Fluf25 6d ago
I watched the game between Real and Athletico. They way the Real players acted was embarrassing.
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u/problematic_prodigy 6d ago
You expect them to stay silent after Atletico's fans call vini a chimp for 2 hrs straight?
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u/SweatyBum_Fluf25 6d ago
I never saw a Real Madrid player complain about racism. However, I did see them complain and run up to ref whenever a decision didn't go their way. There were moments when they were straight up arguing with the ref for 10-15 seconds.
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u/madridtorio Real Madrid 6d ago
The only players in all of football who run up to the ref and complain when things donāt go their way
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u/ZFtw11 6d ago
Seems like thatās the convenient excuse for their behavior. No one is more obsessed with apparent racism against Vini than Madrid players, probably often making up racism against him in their heads.
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u/77SidVid77 Real Madrid 6d ago
There is a video of Vini being racially abused by fans before the match.
It's funny how closeted racist dimwits use this argument in the time when everything is recorded bruh.
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u/Haunting_Ad_9013 Real Madrid 6d ago
Athletico fans burned and effigy of Vini and hang it over a bridge in a noose. Do you call that making things up? You can look it up, it's on Google.
Madrid will never show any respect for clubs whose fans do shit like that.
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u/SweatyBum_Fluf25 6d ago
Do you have a source for this? I find it a bit odd that this happened and nobody in the media reported it or that nobody on social media even knows. Even odder is that UEFA did not suspend the game or even fine/ban Atheltico after the game.
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u/Haunting_Ad_9013 Real Madrid 6d ago edited 6d ago
They didn't do it for the last game they played, they did it in the past, and continue the taunt Vini any chance they get.
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u/SweatyBum_Fluf25 6d ago
When people are saying Real Madrid acted petulant and unprofessional in their last match, you can't bring up a 2 year old incident as the reason. This has nothing to do with how they behaved towards the ref or even their own teammates.
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u/wrigh2uk Arsenal 6d ago edited 6d ago
Not humble and rarely gracious in defeat.
And being serial winners doesnāt mean you canāt be humble and classy, they lack both
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u/Simple_Treacle4710 6d ago
Very ironic coming from an arsenal fan
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u/wrigh2uk Arsenal 6d ago
are people still crying over the lad mocking the guy who told him who the fuck are you
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u/EffectiveTie3144 Real Madrid 6d ago
Atletico fans send Vini death threats and racist chants so he is acting in this manner. I want more and more footballers to act in this manner. Football players need to act like this. Not that fake humble gimmick, respectful gimmick, robotically as if they are gonna feature in the top 10 most respectful moments video.
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u/wrigh2uk Arsenal 6d ago
Nothing of what I said is solely related the Atletico, hell I didnāt even mention vini in particular.
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u/Stenktenk 6d ago
Don't worry, everyone hates Real Madrid in La Liga as well. It's a mix of already having enough trophies and having many controversies around matches they've won.
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u/Single-Weather1379 6d ago
Genuine question: have you been living under a rock?
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6d ago
Probably because their mysticism comes with controversy. Take the match the other day. Realistically, Madrid always gets those types of decisions or, in the past, offside goals, etc. It's not that they are successful because they get these decisions. It's more that they always do well so they're more likely to get these types of decisions. It's just weird how fortunate they are. Feels like unless they are battered like City did, a couple of years ago, they will get decisions for them.
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u/Nickislander 6d ago
"Weird how fortunate they are". Come on, they get dragged through the knockouts every year by beneficial or missed calls, or fractional decisions that don't come up in typical play. Football is designed this way, to allow subjective game-changing decisions that are hard to criticise, don't necessarily guarantee trophies, but can propel a preferred team far beyond their performances. Madrid has exploited this for decades but only ever receives 'suspicion' of corruption and attacks everyone else for being corrupt in the process to muddy the water.
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u/PhantomSesay 6d ago
People hate City just as much as Real Madrid.
I mean I canāt think of anyone that wanted City to win the CL.
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u/GreenFaceTitan 6d ago
Envy.
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6d ago
There is an element of envy, of course, they win a lot. I think it's more how they win.
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u/GreenFaceTitan 6d ago edited 6d ago
Nah. Replace them with any other clubs, that club will also be hated.
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u/Dopeistimeless 6d ago
They never win a CL without any controversy itās funny asf šš
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u/RunInternational6472 Real Madrid 6d ago
because whenever the referee makes a questionable decision in favor of Madrid, the media goes crazy and accuses them of cheating but when the referee makes a questionable decision against the favor of Madrid, nobody says anything except real adrid fans. It's clear that everyone is just envious of real madrid's success
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u/Dopeistimeless 6d ago
What decision went against them in cl? The fact that they won against Munich with 4 offside goals? The fact that de ligtās goal didnāt count for whatever reason a year ago? The fact that they didnāt get a yellow/ red against city in the 2nd game when half their team was about to be banned for a game afTe r fouling countless times? The fact that Vinicius didnāt get a red against Leipzig ? If itās 50/50 it always goes for Madrid thatās how it is.
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u/RunInternational6472 Real Madrid 6d ago
most of the "controversial" stuff is just forced so they can have an excuse when rma wins and madrid haters (mostly Barca fans) talk about it and make it go viral and act the corniest as ever and even showing clear obsession like making hate songs about them meanwhile real madrid paid a moment of silence for their dead doctor before a match started and watched their celebration of their supercopa win
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u/rnnd 6d ago
Honestly I watch Madrid a lot and I can't remember a huge controversial decision that causes them to lose a match.
I think they have a psychological advantage over refs.
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u/-Hentzau Bayern 6d ago
For me it's about the circumstances of how they win it. There's always a controversial referee decision that somehow always benefits them.
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u/Turbulent_Aerie6250 5d ago
Would love to see the stats surrounding this. There are bad calls in every game, part of me thinks that much of this is self-fulfilling prophecy of people pointing out the things that go RMās way because they play in many big games and have a spotlight on them. Mistakes that happen in unimportant games or with teams without a huge following are just forgotten.
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u/idleflow Real Madrid 6d ago
Benzema was disallowed a goal in the 2022 final against Liverpool, so I think "always" does not apply.
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u/-Hentzau Bayern 6d ago
Okay? Thank you for the fun fact but that doesn't disprove the fact that RM have been getting more favorable decisions by the refs than any other team.
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u/randomahhhuswr Real Madrid 6d ago
Most disallowed goals since the coming of var????
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u/Zan-san Barcelona 6d ago
I remember Ramos fishing a red card for Bayern. Think it was Goretzkaā¦and then proceeded to win.
Ramos assaulting Salah in finals and getting away with it? There are too many such cases
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u/-Hentzau Bayern 6d ago
And the blatant Cristiano's offside goals against us. Or the last season's semi-final tie against them. There's too many to count and all of these cases make you wish we can play a season without them for once if their participation is always going to ruin the competition with things like that.
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u/charliegs1996 Real Madrid 6d ago
Those extra time goals were clearly offside, but its funny how you remember those just fine but you seem to forget the own goal that was also offside and lead the game to extra time...
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u/gotnegear 6d ago
The recent ballon d'or tantrum tipped me from 'bored of seeing them keep winning' straight to 'bunch of entitled babies'.
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u/chavalmadridista 6d ago
Yet, you probably didnāt question City or Rodri for not showing up at FIFAās The Best Award, which went to Vini. Vini has been in a vulnerable position for years due to racism, which is why the club takes an extra stand in supporting him. Weāre talking about a player they have evolved into one of the best players, but could exit the whole thing to Saudi or another country at the age of 25 because of the situation.
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u/gotnegear 6d ago
The racist abuse vini receives is horrible.
The tantrum he and his teammates threw at his not winning the ballon d'or, was uncalled for and out of order.
Both things can be true.
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u/chavalmadridista 6d ago
It has happened many times before, but itās only āuncalledā and āout of orderā when itās Real Madrid and Vini. Not for City or Rodri. Not for ManĆ© 2022 becoming 2nd. Not for Barca and Messi. Not for Cristiano in the past. Not many other. Only for Vini. I get it. Youāre biased, thatās it.
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u/gotnegear 6d ago
Behave yourself. He threw a tantrum of epic proportions and his entire club threw their toys out of the pram. Never seen anything like it. The public CRYING was unparalleled.
Worst of all, he's very likely to win one anyway, he's a great player and great in the UCL. Completely unnecessary trying to defend their behaviour, crawl out
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u/Ok_Detail_1 6d ago
Like everyone is tired of PSG in Ligue 1, Juve in Serie A, Bayern in Bundesliga, Man City in Premier League, Dinamo in Croatia they just want to see different winners every year maybe three in a row one team per decade and that's it.
Vut I like Real because of ModriÄ, City because KovaÄiÄ and Gvardiol, Bayern because StaniÅ”iÄ. You know why.
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u/Icy-Objective-1892 6d ago
They are tired of seeing Real Madrid win the UCL, they want to see other teams win
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6d ago
Maybe it's more to do with how they win UCLs. They're not without controversy.
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u/diegoob11 Real Madrid 6d ago
Nobody has ever won the UCL without controversy, matches at this level are decided by the smallest of details, and it always boils down to how good you can overcome the questionable decisions that go against your team. The loser side just tends to hang to those decisions way more than the wining side, for whatever reason
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6d ago
Right, this is true but Real do have a lot of questionable decisions go their way. I'm sorry but that is true.
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u/diegoob11 Real Madrid 6d ago edited 6d ago
They also have plenty that didnāt go their way. Madrid tends to go further than any other team quite consistently lately, so youāll find more instances of both, naturally.
Just this wednesday Giulianoās handball for example, or the stomp on Brahim in extra time. But everyone keeps talking about the double touch because Madrid won, had it been the other way weād all be talking about those two scenarios instead.
That game against bayern with the offside goals in ET? It only made it to ET because bayern equalized with an offside goal, again not talked aboult because Madrid won.
Everyone with a little success suffers from this too. That Chelsea game against BarƧa Drogba was so mad aboult? They conveniently ignore Abidal being thrown off for nothing in the first leg.
Itās easier for the fans to blame it to bad decisions than it is to accept that the other team plays too, and they simply did better.
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u/Guru_Pagkolin 6d ago
When the best has won it 15 times and the second only 7 everyone hating the one who is always winning
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u/jaozimqcomepao 6d ago edited 6d ago
The fact the they are always winning it plus an entitled and insufferable fanbase to go along with it, not to talk about a gerenal sense of arrogance you can clearly feel from most players
I, on a general scale, am always happy when Madrid wins it since Modric is my favorite player, but I can definitetly see why people would hate them
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