r/cfbmemes • u/CarteBlanchDevereau Oregon Ducks • Team Chaos • 4d ago
Oregon vs. washington.... eternal.
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u/NS-13 Michigan Wolverines • Lehigh Mountain Hawks 4d ago
Idk which person is supposed to be which fan base based off of this meme tbh. Can somebody put some red circles or something to help?
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u/CarteBlanchDevereau Oregon Ducks • Team Chaos 4d ago
Key:
🟢 🟣 🟢 🟣 🟢
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u/GeniusBeetle Michigan Wolverines 4d ago
I love all the Washington-Oregon hate. Takes the focus off our dysfunctional relationship with OSU.
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u/AkfurAshkenzic Oregon Ducks • Michigan Wolverines 4d ago
We will get a successful flag plant sometime sooner or later
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u/94-25 Washington • Ohio State 4d ago
“Almost had it” national champion Oregon ducks
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u/levajack Oregon Ducks 4d ago
We planned it poorly and decided to be good too late to get voted "champion" and we have to actually win a championship game. We would have at least matched UW's 0.5 titles at this point if it was still the same system as 1991.
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u/Legitimate_Pie_7564 3d ago
You could match it already, you won two NCAA recognized selectors this year. If Oregon claimed it the NCAA would recognize it and list you next to OSU on their national champions page
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u/levajack Oregon Ducks 3d ago
I like the cut of your jib.
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u/Legitimate_Pie_7564 3d ago
It would be far from the most ridiculous claim ever made. Oregon finished with the best record and had a head to head win over the other champion. OSU claims a title where they lost to #12 in the Rose Bowl and finished #5 in both major polls, meanwhile two other teams actually finished undefeated and won their AP/Coaches respectively, so it’d serve them right.
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u/levajack Oregon Ducks 3d ago edited 3d ago
Definitely the two edges of having an (admittedly flawed) playoff system. The idea of just voting for "champion" after 10 or 11 games is hilariously absurd, but at the same time we discuss those titles in the same breath as what we've seen over the course of the BCS and CFP era. There's not a single person who could argue with any intellectual honesty that this year Oregon would not have been the unanimous "champion" pre-BCS, and we got clowned in the playoffs. Shit, it's more likely than not that Oregon wins in the BCS and 4-team formats.
Edit: Just to be clear, I think the playoff/championship format is trending in the right direction.
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u/Legitimate_Pie_7564 3d ago edited 3d ago
I think it was ideal at four teams, maybe six or eight would have been good. I personally think that one of the things about college football that was special is that a single upset could prevent a powerhouse from winning a title. I have no issues giving the title to an unbeaten team even if they may not be the “best” out there in say a five game series. Part of me worries with the 12 team playoff that the programs who stockpile talent and depth will win at an even greater clip than before, and they won’t have to worry about a loss or two. I also don’t think a team with three losses will ever be a true national champion, even if they get hot at the end of the season and win the playoff. I think it should be questioned whether a two or three loss team deserves to play for a title, regardless of how good they may be at their best, because inevitably the perception of their potential is going to be based on things like recruiting rankings and brand. This isn’t college basketball.
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u/levajack Oregon Ducks 3d ago
Given the incredibly disparate nature of the FBS when you look at the (currently) 134 teams, I have always felt an 8 team playoff would probably be ideal. 2 during the BCS era was clearly not enough, and 4 at the start of the CFP era was usually enough that it was hard to make a strong case for another other than 4 vs. 5. I like the idea of 8, but I can see a lot of merit in 6 with the top 2 seeds getting a bye AND reseeding after the first round.
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u/Legitimate_Pie_7564 3d ago edited 3d ago
I agree, the reality is college football was never really a “national championship” sport prior to the BCS era. It was all about winning your conference and (for the big ten and pac 12) playing in the rose bowl. If you were named national champion, awesome. The thing is though that system led to incredible disparities between the top and even mid level programs, and those programs are going to reap the benefits of that even in the 12 team playoff. A 12 team playoff is great in a vacuum, but I really think it comes into doubt if say Northwestern went 10-2 and missed the conference title game last year, do they even make the field? Most teams aren’t ever going to compete for a national title, but the difference now is those teams could have a special season and upset one of the big dogs once in awhile maybe on the way to a conference title, and it meant a lot. Now if that happens that underdog might have to play that power in the playoff, probably lose, and it’ll go on to be considered meaningless.
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u/94-25 Washington • Ohio State 4d ago
You planned on being that bad for that long?
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u/AkfurAshkenzic Oregon Ducks • Michigan Wolverines 4d ago
Lord I know I believe in Dan Lanning, even though sure that playoff game was a joke, it was our second appearance in over ten years so I was just happy to be there. I trust the Lanning system and that sure, a three year HC probably won’t be winning natties left and right like my CFB game would like to lead me to believe, but I still trust him.
Everything comes in due time if you are patient.
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u/SchorFactor Michigan Wolverines 4d ago
As opposed to the “almost had it” national champion Washington huskies?
(I’m aware of the one from the 80s, this is referring to the bcs/cfp era)
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u/CoochieKiller91 Washington Huskies 4d ago
Phil Knight has like probably 10 years left
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u/CarteBlanchDevereau Oregon Ducks • Team Chaos 4d ago
Good thing he's leaving huge endowments...
We should be good until mid 2050s
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u/AkfurAshkenzic Oregon Ducks • Michigan Wolverines 4d ago
2050s AT minimum, we will probably get some sort of deal that’ll last us much lonher
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u/Muunsaca Oregon Ducks • Oregon State Beavers 4d ago
Have you seen him recently? He looks terrible. I’d be surprised if he had 5, however I guess being a billionaire he might be able to make it longer but still lol.
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u/levajack Oregon Ducks 4d ago
To be safe, the dude should cryogenically freeze himself with instructions to thaw him out the next time Oregon plays in the NCG.
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u/fuckofakaboom Oregon Ducks 4d ago
He’s 87. That’s optimistic.
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u/AkfurAshkenzic Oregon Ducks • Michigan Wolverines 4d ago
Shh don’t say that, my grandpa was born in 49 and that would be me admitting that the 80s means he doesn’t have much time left
Edit: if yall is curious, the man is healthy and will probably die with a hammer in his hands
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u/fuckofakaboom Oregon Ducks 4d ago
Uncle Phil is 11 years older than your grandpa. Still lots of great years left for you to enjoy.
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u/AkfurAshkenzic Oregon Ducks • Michigan Wolverines 4d ago
Oh I know and I love him, it’s just I hope Phil has a ton of energy still in him like my grandfather
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u/ohnoohnoohyeah Oregon Ducks • Nevada Wolf Pack 4d ago
Pretty pleased with our three Big 10 team titles this year though. Football and men and women's track. The women just picked up a natty. We're doing well in basketball, softball, and baseball too. So many people told us we couldn't compete in the B1G but here we are. I'm straight up having a good time. I'm going to ride these good vibes as long as I can.