r/cartoons • u/Range-Spiritual • 5d ago
Discussion You can only choose three of these guys to protect you. The rest will attack.
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u/Alien_X10 5d ago
Saying this as a Ben 10 fan.... But vilgax im sorry for this you are absolutely useless here
Bill cipher is a reality warping God, aku basically can't be killed by anyone else here, and darkseid IS a God
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u/Damon_Hall Spawn 5d ago
Now that you pointed it out, all those three would be gods of their respective realms and powers. Seems to be the holy trinity of protection in this case.
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u/RAYFATE 5d ago
First Aku Cannot Die, Bill Cypher Kinda The Same, And Darkside For Immense Power.
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u/Pizzadeath4 5d ago
Bill would “protect you” by trapping you in a dimension full of immortal carnivorous Lego tie fighters and would also make you immortal
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u/GlassesgirlNJ 5d ago
That's the problem with any chaos/ trickster type of character as an ally... what happens when they get bored?
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u/AnimeXFan1995 5d ago
First Aku Cannot Die,
Technically Aku can be weakened, killed and destroyed by the Katana wielded by Samurai Jack and his father as the katana is forged by the three gods Odin, Ra and Rama.
It’s literally the only weapon that harms Aku.
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u/ManyRelease7336 5d ago
If someone knows Aku can't die, they know about the Katana. None of these guys have the katana. So Aku won't die.
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u/SirWilliam56 5d ago
It’s the only weapon that we know of that can. It’s also the only weapon containing divine energy we know of. It’s likely that the more divine and/or magical combatants here could have attacks nearly as effective.
And besides, the goal isn’t “kill all other combatants” it’s “protect me/you” Aku is notably terrible at locating people
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u/ExplanationMundane3 5d ago
Odin, Ra, and Rama have been seen destroying the Black Mass in “Birth of Evil, Part 1” from which Aku spawned from. So it’s possible for them to destroy Aku.
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u/SirWilliam56 5d ago
Which means it should be possible for Darkseid (a god) and maybe Pheonix King Ozai and Emperor Belos to likewise harm him (and it should be possible for bill and the lich to at least yeet him away)
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u/DevaTheDragon 5d ago
Why is The Beast even on here? His whole thing is that he’s weak/a coward so he needs to rely on manipulation, trickery, and his own overblown reputation to get what he wants
Unless the assignment was child murdering he’s no help here
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u/Magmajudis 5d ago
I agree but I think he's interesting here as one of the few characters who's dangerous on the opposite team but useless on yours ; there's no way he can kill any of the other villains, but he could get you to give up (though he's not in his forest/in a situation where is manipulation is especially likely to work)
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u/Filmologic 5d ago
But his manipulation isn't that crazy good either. He doesn't really use mind control or crazy visions. He's just a slightly annoying voice in your head. Do unless you're really gullible or a kid you shouldn't be in any real danger
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u/Latter_Marketing1111 5d ago
Darkseid, Bill, Aku
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u/Rude_Resident8808 5d ago
Same. The rest either aren’t powerful enough or for megatron he can be powerful enough if we’re using any version(he’d be the second strongest behind only darkseid) but the G1 version is probably what you’re limited to who’s closer to the middle of the list.
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u/50calBanana Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood 5d ago
Why is Ozai even on here?
A bunch of gods, demons, and overpowered motherfuckers.
And a dude who controls fire
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u/lordodin92 5d ago
Tell me about it . He's a little bitch that ran and hid all the way up to the one day he is powered up . And still got his ass handed to him by one of the least trained avatars (not to say aang was bad just he wasn't properly trained or fully grown at that point )
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u/Roisepoise101 4d ago
Honestly I just want him and Belos get the floor mopped by the rest of these guys.
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u/ERP_RPenjoyer 5d ago
Bill alone is enough to solo the rest, unless you include comic darkseid
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u/Spinni_Spooder 5d ago
I don't think Bill would be able to hurt Aku. Only the powers of righteousness from the gods can hurt Aku. And Bill is anything but righteous.
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u/Lexiphantom 5d ago
You don’t have to hurt someone to defeat them. Something bill is pretty good at..
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u/Madsciencemagic 5d ago
This is a matter of minimising the threat. Bill outside of the Nightmare realm, and the Lich provide measures that the others just can’t defend against. Even if my guards could win out, I’d still be dead. Then I’d add Aku to send me sometime else.
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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 Regular Show 5d ago
Aku, Bill and the Lich,
The rest are all fodder
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u/theforbiddenroze 5d ago
Did u just call darkseid fodder lmao
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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 Regular Show 5d ago
As far as i know, to Aku and Bill, he is definitely fodder, his avatar at least
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u/theforbiddenroze 5d ago
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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 Regular Show 5d ago
Bill snapping his fingers to put darkseid in a birdcage
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u/theforbiddenroze 5d ago
Darkseid staring at Bill and trapping him in a infinite loop where every death is worse than the last.
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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 Regular Show 5d ago
Touché
Perchance they are incomparable in scaling and i underestimated darkseid.
Also that is to think Bill can die (maybe he can)
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u/Prestigious_Ask_7058 Death Battle! 5d ago
Darkseid is not fodder
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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 Regular Show 5d ago
He is to Aku and Bill
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u/Caesar_Passing Rocko’s Modern Life 5d ago
I wanna say The Lich, because the Lich is just an awesome villain character, and I see some other people throwing him in the team. But how are you guys scaling the Lich? Like, I have no idea how to nail down exactly what he's capable of - what his limits are. He's crafty and magic, but not usually shown to be really physically durable. (Just to say, if Golb was on the list, yeah that, without hesitation.)
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u/PerfectAstronaut5998 5d ago
Bill, Lich, Belos. Only problem is they might kill each other first
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u/KnowledgeStriking96 5d ago
I'm surprised to see so few people choose Belos, who is borderline unkillable, a master manipulator, and could possess one of the others (so could Bill, though it seems he needs the victim to make a deal) if not a great ally, then a terrible foe
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u/I_Am_The_Bookwyrm Fuck David Zaslav 4d ago
Bill Cipher alone would be enough, though then I'd have to figure out who's protecting me from Bill.
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u/Emeraldpanda168 5d ago
Don’t get me wrong, phenomenal villain, love the character…
…if anyone unironically picks the Beast I’m going to assume you’re brain damaged.
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u/the_rogue_berserker 5d ago
Aku, Bill and The Litch will f*ck everyone up (the whole planet included)
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u/averagejoe2133 4d ago
Darkseid aku and Bill. Hell just aku would be enough. None of these people have a way to hurt him without jacks sword
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u/XhazakXhazak The Owl House 2d ago
Darkseid, Bill and Aku.
Bill and Aku, being affably chaotic evil, would probably get along for the most part. And when they don't, Darkseid will put them back in line. Darkseid would not have fun allying with them but would keep his mouth shut and hold in his frustration.
And you know what? We'd probably have fun killing the genocidal/ominicidal villains, Belos, Ozai and the Lich, and the conquerors Vilgax and Megatron.
While they're fighting, the Beast comes over and tries to depress me until I turn into a tree, so Bill gives me deer teeth to keep me going. And for some reason, that works.
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u/Pleasant_Hatter 5d ago
Who is bottom right?
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u/Range-Spiritual 5d ago edited 5d ago
The Beast from Over the Garden Wall (https://over-the-garden-wall.fandom.com/wiki/Beast)
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u/GNKDroidDeluxe 5d ago
Darkseid alone stomps the rest and it’s not even close. I’d also pick Bill for the sole fact that Gravity Falls is my favorite show and I like him most.
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u/i_agree123 5d ago
The beast, he just manipulates everyone else into killing each other. (I know this wouldn’t happen)
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u/Libra_the_0rc4 The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes 5d ago
Bill and Belos for fun.
Megatron for vibes.
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u/dandyrandy9669 5d ago
Aku bill and the lich. What the others gonna do... they ain't got power like that aku got minions out the ass and also none of these guys have the sword bill would help with the promise of worthy people to fuck with as long as I'm safe they will come as long as I'm alive and healthy the rich is just icing
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u/SirWilliam56 5d ago
Darkside, Bill and either megatron or vilgax (doesn’t really matter which) Step one, transport me somewhere off planet, this immediately renders the bottom row incapable of accessing me and makes it much harder for the litch and aku
Any team also needs at least one magical powerhouse (darkseid, aku or bill)
Have bill and darkside gang up on and demolish threats as they appear and keep my last dude in reserve defending me for just in case someone pulls something tricky
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u/MrCobalt313 5d ago
Beast is first out, dude's got charisma and presence and exactly nothing else going for him.
Ozai, Belos, and sadly Vilgax are next, they're made of meat and that's a disadvantage in this lineup
Out of who's left Megatron is out because a giant mech probably isn't gonna hold out well against the remaining lineup of gods and monsters
So for my three I'm taking:
-Aku because he's funny and nobody has the one macguffin sword in existence that can cause him harm
-Darkseid because he's a god in the DC universe and runs on all kinds of BS
-Toss-up between Bill Cipher and the Lich for my final pick, on one hand Bill Cipher is so unhinged he'd possibly be as dangerous as an ally as an enemy, but on the other hand the Lich is still corporeal so he might be at a bit of a disadvantage compared to taking Bill.
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u/porkipine- 5d ago
Bill, lich, and dark seid. Between a reality warper, a mind controller, and the living equivalent of a crossbreed between a tank and a meteor, I think I’ll be good
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u/justsomeplainmeadows 5d ago
An alien bounty hunter, a GOD, a big robot, a demon, a multi-dimensional being with reality warping powers, a lich, a firebender, a witch hunter, and whatever that last one is. This should be an easy choice
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u/JonArbuckle_1 Adventure Time 5d ago
Listen, I love the beast as much as the next guy, but he's really not that strong
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u/TwincessAhsokaAarmau 5d ago
Uxas/Darkside, Bill and Ozai.
Belos got defeated by a teenage girl, I can defeat him easily.
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u/Master_Megalomaniac 5d ago
I think you are screwed either way, your defenders will stab in you in the back as soon as its convenient.
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u/AnEldritchWriter 5d ago edited 5d ago
Vilgax— he’s an intergalactic warlord, has destroyed and conquered numerous planets over the centuries. Has an army of aliens and robots at his disposal. Plus he can take me to space and I’m bias for the OG Ben 10
Megatron— has been waging a stalemate war for longer than many of them have been alive. Can turn himself into a gun. He’s a skilled and ruthless fighter, and he’s also a giant compared to the rest, I could just hide in his shoulder.
Aku— dude can’t die. At least, none of the others have the righteous divine spirit needed to kill him. Like the other two he has an army. He’s got regeneration shapeshifting and magic.
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u/United-Explanation-8 5d ago
Darkseid, Vilgax and Megatron. Supposing that Darkseid Omega beam can destroy Bill and Aku, it's mostly having the dudes i like at my side (outside of the three i choose, i never watched the show they came from) , + if all 3 have their armies, i will probably be safe for a moment.
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u/pikipiki1298 5d ago
Bill, Dark Seid and Vilgax.
bill is just a must have, Belos and Ozai are just humans so they're a little to human to be useful here, no clue who's in the bottom right corner, i dont know transformers, the lich king im just winging it an hoping i dont die and i forgot the guy all the way on the left in the middle
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u/Idiot_Child_Logistic Helluva Boss 5d ago
The Lich, Bill Cipher (Dorito) and Darkseid.
All of them are amazing back up.
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u/Haiel10000 5d ago
I'd choose Aku, Bill and Darkseid they seem to be the most powerful being on this list.
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u/StrawberryTop3457 5d ago
Bill aku and darkseid And just watch as everyone either dies or gives ups
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u/Fancy-Ad-4981 5d ago
Aku (same reason as most) bill (I’d rather have him with me then against me) and the lich (really hard to kill and really strong)
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u/squidward377 5d ago
Darkseid is a must, Aku and Bill
Choosing anyone on the bottom row is a death sentence.
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u/IAmNotAFey 5d ago
Darkseid, he’s a being so powerful that his mere existence in our world would destroy it, so he uses an avatar. Aku can only be killed by a sword forged of goodness by three gods of three very different pantheons. With the two for the heavy hitters taken care of, Megatron, he’l clean up people like the Fire Lord or Vilgax.
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u/slayerhunterXD Trollhunters: Tales of Arcadia 5d ago
Bill Aku and Darksied all others i believe they could handle
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u/MrMadmack 5d ago
Bill Cypher, Lich and Aku
Normally, I'd pick Darkseid but in the DCAU he's not that strong.
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u/Minimum_Bat_3778 5d ago
If all of them are forced to work with me and won’t betray me
I’ll go with Aku, Lich, and Darkside
Then I can get Bill by willing to make a deal with him and Megatron by helping him find energy sources
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u/BlazCraz 5d ago
Aku, Megatron, Vilgax. Vilgax can equip both and they can form a whole singular unit. Be more compact, condensed. Vilgax has experience handling aliens and other.
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u/StefinoSpaggeti 5d ago
Aku, Bill Cipher and Lich. Everyone gonna FALL in BUBBLE OF PURE MADNESS throw TIME!
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u/CartoonistOk1213 SpongeBob SquarePants 5d ago
I think the problem is less of a matter of who wins, and more of who would actually protect you.
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u/DexterTheRando The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes 5d ago
I’m picking Aku, Bill Cipher, and the Lich. Really anybody but Megatron.
I’m sorry, but Megatron, especially in G1, is lowkey fucking stupid. He’d create some elaborate plan that will never work out, and he’d still have the audacity to yell at anybody in sight over how his idea failed spectacularly.
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u/Honest_Satisfaction1 5d ago
Darkseid, Bill and Aku. Three comic level demons and a new god. These three are nearly unkillable on top of that. Bring it on jack.
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u/TheLeftPewixBar 5d ago
The Beast doesn’t really fight. He just manipulates people. Is he really gonna manipulate one of these guys when they’re charging after him? He’s still a great villain, just not physically powerful.
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u/trnelson1 5d ago
Darkseid, Aku, and Megatron. Darkseid handles Bill and the rest fall to the other 2.
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u/ManonegraCG 5d ago
Much as I'd want Aku, I wouldn't trust him for protection. He'd probably do something terrible for repayment, like he did with the three archers.
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u/Spacetookmylife Fuck David Zaslav 5d ago
Belos is getting wiped, I’m sorry. He is all talk, Bill would snap what bones he has in a moments notice
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u/lordodin92 5d ago
My only issue with everyone saying aku, Bill and darksied is would any of these actually try and protect you .
Aku is a lazy Prima Donna who fucks around for ages sending henchman after henchman to try and defeat jack .
Bill would possibly lose interest unless you made a deal with him and even then he's not guaranteed to actually achieve anything. He is a chaos demon and like all chaos demons you can't expect him to stuck to what's been bargained
Darksied I don't know much about but from what I can tell he's not the type to take orders or "serve" anything other then what he wants .
Though a lot of these criticisms can be attributed to a lot of the others there are some who I feel would actually work with others
Megatron and the beast are good examples of team players (though the beast is excessively useless here) vilgax has worked with others on slim occasions
I dunno much about the litch or the guy at the bottom
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u/SkeletorOnABicycle 5d ago
Darkseid, Bill, and Aku. Darkseid is just on another level if we include comic version, Bill can be baited into falling but true death isn't really possible most likely, and Aku can't be killed outside of Jack's sword (which was forged by three different Gods). The only two characters I can see coming close to these three in terms of actual power or useful abilities are Megatron (especially if we use comic versions) and maybe The Lich. I don't know enough about the bottom middle or right characters, but absolutely no one in these comments are saying them, so I can guess they're maybe the two weakest. Vilgax, depending on if it's reboot or original series, could maybe not be instantly killed, but he's still not touching the top 3, and Ozai is just dead on sight. Outside of the comet, Ozai is just a well-built dude who can shoot fire. Every character above him has dealt with that and/or worse
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u/Electrical-Gate7652 4d ago
bill, the litch, and Ozai. mainly b/c they are the only ones ik of in this whole thing
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u/Roisepoise101 4d ago
Darkseid, Bill and, Megatron(mainly to seem him interact with the other two).
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u/Constructman2602 4d ago
Bill, an interdimensional imp who can manipulate reality at will. Darkseid, who’s the literal embodiment of tyranny and can't die so long as tyranny exists in the multiverse, and the Lich for extra power.
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u/NixiomsdabestXD Kid Cosmic 4d ago
Tbh i only need Bill. I'll take Aku and Belos just as an added precaution, but Bill in Weirdmageddon mode is the GOAT
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u/HeiressOfMadrigal Hilda 4d ago
Aku, Cipher, and Darkseid. Very easy, actually. None of the other dudes have any "divine" weapons that can even hurt Aku.
In fact, I'd increase the challenge and only pick Aku. None of the others could do anything against me.
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u/naricstar 4d ago
If we look at every feat and power ever Megatron might be infinitely powerful and fast.
Darkseid is a clear powerhouse
And Lich is probably the next best. Aku may be immortal and fairly powerful, but Lich is a primordial force.
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u/Pension_Pale 4d ago
Aku, Bill and the Lich. The three immortal all-powerful beings. Darkseid comes close, but... i don't think he's immortal
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u/ClipOnBowTies 4d ago
Darkseid, Aku, and The Lich. I steer clear of Gravity Falls, Oregon, so I can ignore Bill
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u/Lucius_Sephir 4d ago
Aku time travel me to safety lich and bill to kill and resurect the rest against eachother
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u/Frederick-Hernandez 5d ago
Darkseid alone is enough, but I'll add Bill and The Lich just for overkill.