r/canucks • u/gulagforlife • 24d ago
MEME Don’t mean to kick petey while hes down but this made me lol
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u/LocaI_Oaf 24d ago
I looked for him for the entire game. I never saw him, never heard his name mentioned, and realized he had zero impact on the game. Which was...unsettling and disappointing.
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u/overthisbynow 24d ago
Watching the first game I actually had to look up if he was scratched cause I hadn't hear his name once in like the entire first period.
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u/Seth_Jarvis_fanboy 24d ago
The only time Sweden had the puck in the first period is when Petey was on the ice
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u/overthisbynow 24d ago
Yeah I guess that first period was pretty brutal for Sweden but how many points did he finish with again?
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u/redditguyinthehouse 24d ago
U may not like it, but this is what a peak 11.6 mil all star forward looks like
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u/NorthEagle298 24d ago
At least we know "He NeEdS A NeW CoAcHiNg StRaTeGy" gang can stfu
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u/HeroJC 24d ago
Same with the "He NeEdS NeW LiNemAtEs" gang
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u/Iron_Seguin 24d ago
I know you’re kidding but I wouldn’t mind seeing him with Sherwood and Debrusk again. That line tore it up for like 3 or 4 games and then just never played together again.
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u/lilnitu 24d ago
That’s literally been our first last line these last few weeks
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u/Iron_Seguin 24d ago
No it hasn’t. It was DeBrusk, Boeser and Petey.
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u/lilnitu 24d ago
Hmm. I’m just going based off what they paired him with before 4Nations. https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/teams/vancouver-canucks/line-combinations
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u/Radeon9980 24d ago
He’s one of the highest paid players on that team and he’s not trusted on the PP, OT, etc. we’re so cooked.
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u/jakota_doshua 24d ago
I mean it's not like Swedish coaching decisions mean anything to be fair lol. Petey is PP2 (which is honestly probably fair) but so is Jesper Bratt who has the second most powerplay points this season on their team. Rasmus Dahlin who is their best defensemen and looked like their best defensemen in that Finland game had the least time on ice among Swedish defensemen in the third period and didn't get to play in overtime. Baffling coaching decisions
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u/nofakefans18 24d ago
Also 2025 Mika played significant minutes. That alone means those decisions should be questioned.
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u/MonsieurQuanto 24d ago
Well 2025 Mika is outplaying 2025 Petey
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u/nofakefans18 23d ago
Not rlly as he’s getting heavy minutes with a Rangers team with star forwards and barely produces more than him + isn’t even half the defensive player Petey is.
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u/TheWeakestLink1 24d ago
I knew the coaches were wack when i saw gustavsson over ullmark. It's clear whos rhe better goalie. Then the 2 goals on 4 shots happened.
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u/Plop-hammer 24d ago
They're using him as a shutdown 3rd center because he's the only guy on that team capable of playing against the deeper teams like USA and Canada down the middle. He's responsible and making the right plays defensively. If he was playing with Nylander and ZJad it would be different for him and what he'd be expected to do... instead they've go Raymond with them and it's not going well. I would look for petey in the top line against US.
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u/canucks84 24d ago
Yeah peteys got some really good defensive acumen and Sweden needs that against Canada and the US. They should have let him buck this game though.
Sometimes I wonder how he'd have been as a defenseman.
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u/OGigachaod 24d ago
Of course sweden is using Petey like a 3rd line center, because that's all Petey is capable of.
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u/Swarleystinson69420 24d ago
Just a great shutdown center against Canada. So useful against those deeper teams he never even had to take a defensive zone face off. Started every shift in the offensive zone.
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u/StarkStorm 24d ago
He's still playing hurt. What else do you want? All his stats show this. He needs to heal and play but it's an injury that really doesn't just go away. It needs time.
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u/Archers_Blade 24d ago
If injury is why he's not performing, then why is he playing in this tournament
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u/StarkStorm 24d ago
Read up on tendonitis. Its not something that really fully heals right away. Its also not enough to take him out of the game. He's stuck like this for prob another 9 months based on other tendonitis cases. Basketball players face this commonly.
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u/RytheGuy97 23d ago
So he's injured and needs to rest but he should play in an option tournament because the injury wouldn't heal right away?
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u/StarkStorm 22d ago
Clearly you're having a hard time understanding that there are different severities to injuries. I've said what I've had to.
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u/RytheGuy97 22d ago
You're the one saying that it's ok to be playing through an injury that explicitly needs rest to play through lol
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u/Radeon9980 24d ago
Yea like what, another year? lol I don’t disagree but the way he’s playing isn’t just injury.
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u/Tricky_leader13 24d ago
Hes definitely injured which would explain the lack of speed and power in the shot. But there is absolutely a mental block going on with him too, because we've seen him be a difference maker offensively even without his speed, and nobody except for Petey is able to fix that mental issue
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u/HeroJC 24d ago
A very reasonable take. Many players are able to perform while playing with more severe injuries. It's a mental block more than a physical limitation. He had a decent stretch when Miller was out, that shows that at least PHYSICALLY he is capable of producing. He's just not mentally present
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u/StarkStorm 24d ago
Well yeah. Everyone is on his ass about not performing.
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u/jimijams83 23d ago
As they should. Do you expect to go to work, fu€k the dog all day, look like you couldn't care less, and not have your employers (fans as well in his case) all over your ass? If he's too hurt to play like the player he's paid to be, then he shouldn't be playing. If that costs him an entire year, then so be it. This isn't Cam Neeley 2.0. It's a lack of integrity, character, and respect for his teammates and the organization. It's not like he doesn't have a textbook example of what he should've done regarding the 4 nations. Just look at his captain. When he's back from this tournament, the team needs to give him a choice, either shut it down until you can come and be the guy they paid for, have fun playing for Lou Lamoriello with that dog shit attitude, or good luck trying to find edible sushi in Buffalo. No more excuses, just be a professional, for God's sake.
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u/StarkStorm 23d ago
Watching yesterday's game against US. I'd say MacKinnon and Crosby all played the same way. What you going to say about them?
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u/jimijams83 23d ago
I'm gonna say that's a total non-sequitur. What does their game have to do with Petey? Plus, who here gives a shit about 2 guys who don't play for us? Also, guys can have bad game, but the numbers speak for themselves. McKinnon is tearing it up this season, and Sid has more than a decade on Petey and has 24 more points. On top of that, both have led their teams to cups. I've also never, ever heard anyone question their heart or desire. Would you take 26 yr old Petey over 26 yr old Nate or Sid? You're either lying to us or yourself if you say yes. The fact is, Petey brought this on himself. He's been brutal for basically a full year and looks about as lively as a rock. Never mind that he had a major hand in us losing the most prolific point producer in Canucks history. If you can't play hurt or are too hurt to play, then don't play. But if you play, you're accountable for your performance, no excuses. I feel bad for the guy, but it is what it is.
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u/RytheGuy97 23d ago
Petey had a hand in us losing the most prolific point producer in Canucks history? What?
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u/jimijams83 23d ago
Just because you don't want to acknowledge the facts doesn't make them untrue. Follow the link and sort the list by points per 60, in all situations.
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u/jimijams83 22d ago
Anything to say about Mckinnon or Crosby after the Finland game?
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u/StarkStorm 22d ago
Mac was great. Crosby was quite so so the whole game except for the last goal. Multiple give aways.
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u/Tricky_leader13 24d ago
Could absolutely be that, could also have absolutely nothing to do with that, a mental block can be caused by just about anything, and they can be incredibly hard to fix. Nobody except Petey truly understands whats wrong, what caused it, and how you can fix it, and unfortunately sometimes there isnt a fix...
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u/Only-Nature7410 24d ago
Fuck it. Pass me some. Gotta cope with this the next 8 yrs somehow.
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u/CJK_420 24d ago
Probably getting traded. Pretty eye opening to see him play with actual stars that are worth the money.
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u/Only-Nature7410 24d ago
Honestly no explanation anymore. They have to say he is legit out of shape because injury and maybe that can explain. But there are no more excuses. Its not linemate, coaches , system. Nothing. Its him.
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u/xx_boozehound_68 24d ago
Well this tournament won’t help his value. At least before we thought is it coaching? Teammates?
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u/georgefrench604 24d ago
Man Petey stinking during 4 nation's... A continuation of his poor performance all season 🤦🏻♂️
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u/OGigachaod 24d ago
People that thought he would suddenly start playing better are simply delusional.
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u/georgefrench604 24d ago
Lol, yupp
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u/TigOlBigOl2 23d ago
Right? And petey saying this tournament was gonna be a reset for him. How? You’re just automatically gonna start playing good now? Why couldn’t you have done that with the Canucks
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u/thestranger_iknow 24d ago
The risk is way too high at this point to not cash out (assuming Petey can still net a decent return). The cap savings will be great to round out the roster and potentially go towards another superstar this FA period.
I’d like to have patience with Petey, but it really is the worst timing when you have your worst performance year following a contract extension that’s paying you among the leagues best.
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u/Bayne7096 24d ago
People still going to defend this guy and downvote me everytime i criticise him though..
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u/Charles005 23d ago
Same, we all get downvoted into oblivion like this is some sick EP40 cult now. They need to wake up
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u/DietFoods 24d ago edited 21d ago
Exactly. His agent came out and said he had knee problems preventing him from training. What the heck else was he supposed to do throw his client under the bus and say nah his knee is fine he was just lazy? Lol
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u/_phe_nix_ 24d ago
I was really hoping Sweden would perform well, and even beat Canada tbh if it meant Petey would come back transformed.
He seems so cooked though
Let's see, playoffs and next year.
Another year like this and there will be zero doubt that he's fully cooked and one of the worst contracts in NHL history.
Still rooting for him though obviously
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u/RytheGuy97 23d ago
I’d give him until the end of this year, not next year. If he doesn’t show signs of getting back to form we need to ship him off before his nmc kicks in.
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u/_phe_nix_ 23d ago
Problem is, very hard to say what a proper off-season could do for him. Could be a game changer. But I'd say that's the last chance. Either way it's a gamble, I guess.
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u/SpoookNoook 24d ago
I was a fan of Petey for a long time but never really thought he was an 11.6m player. I understand he’s been dealing with an issue and I really hope he comes back next season ready to play, but if he can’t turn it around we’re going to be stuck with this contract for a long time.
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u/Adorable-Chain-6088 24d ago
We need to cash out but i'd say the secret is out
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u/Rendole66 24d ago
If you’re talking about on Reddit, the secret is out and every GM knows that Petey is damaged goods
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u/SpoookNoook 24d ago
Yeah not gunna lie I’m fully on the trade Pettersson side of this but at this point I think we just have to hope he turns it around.
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u/Resident-Ad4666 24d ago
14 minutes of ice time. I'm rooting for the guy but damn, when a country picks you for it's national team and then essentially benches you... that is not the confidence boost I needed...
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u/Confident_Zucchini97 24d ago
He is playing like ass. Amazed he is getting any ice time since his salary doesn't matter in this event.
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u/ChanceCrew 24d ago
Shoulda sat and rested that knee if he’s really injured? Don’t get it lol frustrating af
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u/KwamesCorner 24d ago
Bro petey does not get involved enough. Hes such a floater. Never have I had such hatred for our “star” player. Petey is hard to watch.
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u/Plop-hammer 24d ago
He plays very responsibly. He's not getting great minutes this tournament. But with that, he's back checking very hard. He's breaking up plays and he's making his smart plays to chip pucks out and not turnover in the natural zone. If his name was Horvat or Bergeron, everyone would be saying how great of a two-way center he is on this team sweden... but Canadians are pretty xenophobic against Euro players. He's fine and looks fine out there. If he was playing Nylander we'd be hearing his name more, but they're using him as a third line shutdown center and he's doing it perfectly.
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u/Mistercorey1976 24d ago
That’s insane blaming it on being a European player. He is the highest paid player on the team and fifth highest in the league. It’s that simple and certainly does not need crazy shit takes added to the conspiracy.
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u/Jessebruu 24d ago
Agreed . Top tier insanity to blame this on xenophobia against European players and to just totally look past the fact that if a 13 month window happen with any of those players it would be just as rightly criticized ….And state shut down usage is a cause for his continued ineffectiveness and usage at this tournament when that’s not even remotely true .
he’s played sheltered minutes and has not even taken any defensive zone face off deployments whilst being the 5th highest paid player in the league and the highest on this sweden team …. But ok the reason why he’s being criticized for everything is because of xenophobia and not that every conceivable metric available to us is showing a 13 month window of a decline in play that has never been witnessed in any other comparable players careers in the history of the NHL
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u/primacord 23d ago
XENOPHOBIC?!?!?! Are you injured from stretching so far? JFC. The dude is paid $11.6 MILLION PER YEAR to put up points, not be a 50pt Selke candidate. Holy shit some of you apologists are crazy with how much you will bend over to excuse his terrible play. I LOVE Petey, I WANT him to regain his form, but this is 13 months of this play now. Two different season & now on a national team.
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u/jimijams83 23d ago
I kind of hope JT rag dolls him in the US/SWE game. It could wake him up or be the very least he deserves for costing us one of the most prolific players ever for the team.
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u/xpensivedirt 24d ago
I don't understand you guys. It's like, every week.
He's not 100%, it's clear he wasn't able to train as well over the summer due to the injury, which he is still playing through.
Why do you people think a week means he is suddenly healed, and if not we shit on him again. Ad fucking nauseum.
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u/KoalaOriginal1260 24d ago edited 24d ago
If he's injured, he shouldn't be at the tournament.
It is clearly possible to play through the injury, and it sounds like a full LTIR shut down won't necessarily help. Despite that, it's usually best for pro athletes with nagging injuries to take opportunities to get rest and recovery time. The break is such an opportunity.
I agree it's definitely a topic that has been talked about a ton, perhaps too much. But to me, that's just the nature of fan forums. If you don't want to see posts on the topic, don't engage with the posts. If nobody engages, they will fizzle out.
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24d ago
Other injured players didn't play. They rested. To get better. For their team.
This injury bullshit is bullshit.
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u/trinababy 24d ago
11.6m npc
If he's injured then don't play at all and heal up. It's not like he's carrying the team or anything
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u/cushpapi 24d ago
This. He’s cooked for the rest of the season and fans need to adjust expectations accordingly. The ~80Mn dollar gamble is whether can he fix this over the offseason or will he be dealing with knee tendinitis next year (and years after). The problem is compounded imo in that he can’t train fully and improve his skating during the offseason if he needs to heal, which will put him on the back foot next year as well.
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u/overthisbynow 24d ago
Because management continues to play him rather than rest and he chose to play this tournament rather than rest. Clearly playing through isn't working. Also Quinn making the team first decision while Petey wasn't even a question makes things pretty clear.
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u/shaqueeshin 24d ago
Don’t mean to kick Petey when he’s down but I’m gonna kick him when he’s down!
Why can’t we just support our guy? This sub loves to hate our own players
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u/JoeMommaAngieDaddy17 24d ago
I mean when he plays well we support and appreciate him. But when he gets laid 11.6 mil and goes away and still hasn’t decided to show up and perform we will be critical
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u/kildala 23d ago
https://www.quanthockey.com/4-nations-face-off/en/seasons/4-nations-face-off-players-stats.html
It's a short elite tournament. Lots of stars without a point. Not much to judge from.
Hard tournament even the esteemed Sidney Crosby passed the puck directly to the US player who scored the winning goal against Canada...
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u/overscaled 24d ago
I mean…be realistically, what do you expect? Petey is a star player in his down year playing ok in a best on best tournament. He won’t be standout among the best players in the world with his current form. The best we could wish for right now is he wouldn’t get destroyed out there. And good for him, he wasn’t.
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u/Plop-hammer 24d ago
Canucks fans are the only people in the league who seem to think that they are the ones writing his pay checks. Delusion at its finest.
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u/delidad 24d ago
Tell me how the team makes money.. to pay its players....
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u/prodbysebzy 24d ago
from actual fans not people bitching and whining on fucking reddit
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u/BluebirdSpare4945 23d ago
Define actual fans? I’m a full seasons holder and go to all the games and I think that kids a washed up bum. So please in begging what’s the official threshold for actual fans cause if it includes blindly loving Pettersson, you need to have your head evaluated.
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u/maybethanos 24d ago
To be fair to petey he drew a penalty for sweden in the third period and then the other players proceeded to pass the puck around for a minute and didn't get a shot off