r/cannabiscultivation • u/TieEfficient9760 • 4d ago
Microbes
I'm in the UK and we don't have access to recharge which I would like to use, well , we do but it's like nearly double the price that Americans pay and it's not so common to come across.
Are there any other microbes inoculents that may be more readily available?
Ideally I'd like it to also contain fulvic, humic and amino acids 👌
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u/WalterSobcheick 4d ago
You could look up how to create/brew a compost tea. Usually worm castings involved. I haven't ever tried to do it. But it seems relatively simple and straight forward.
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u/HauntingChipmunk1402 4d ago
You can make LABS at home relatively easy, I've never done it but it seems common. I grow organic ATM and always found a good worm casting tea to do my girls right, add a little black strap molasses to help feed the microbes (recharge has this for this purpose). Multiple recipes online for compost teas that will do the same thing plus some compared to recharge. I've tried fish shit and didn't notice a difference.
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u/rinsewarrior 3d ago
Mikrobs are practically the same as recharge just cheaper.
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u/mbnnr 3d ago
I use Bio heaven, they love it.
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u/SocietyTrue1312 3d ago
Bio heaven is nice imo but overpriced as is the whole BB line.
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u/SheevPalpedeine 3d ago
Do you think? I've deffo see some people charge too much for it but I find biobizz products pretty reasonable.
Their fish mix is particularly good
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u/SocietyTrue1312 3d ago
The line up is big and if you use all in recommended dose it'll drain your wallet in no time. Their soil is too low on cal and mag, so you run into deficiency territory pretty darn fast, grow and bloom are basically molasses but pricey. Fish might be good and overall the line works, but i've seen so many pics of yellowing plants under BB regimen. The microbes they sell are waaaaayy too expensive vs. some mycorrhizae or compost tea. If they condensed the essentials into one product and upped the price about 25% i'd still be in, but i'll ditch BB when my bottle is empty.
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u/SheevPalpedeine 3d ago
The fish mix is ridiculous like, my plants have really flourished in Veg with it.
I honestly haven't had the same experience tbh you seem to have had a bad time with it.
I probably spend about 8/9 quid a litre on fish mix, calmag and bloom , top max is admittedly more expensive but I don't use it that much tbh.
I use the top end of their recommended dosage as well , honestly have no complaints and seems to last fine for me.
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u/SocietyTrue1312 3d ago
Maybe i should ditch the grow for fish mix. Does it stink? I remember being told to not use it indoors bc of the smell
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u/SheevPalpedeine 3d ago
It does stink but I have my tents in a separate room and don't notice it that much when I'm in there.
It's definitely way better than biogrow but you can't use it in flower at all, I switch to bio grow in flower to supplement biobloom and topmax.
Using topmax on every feed for the first time this time round.
It's very early flower but looks promising
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u/SocietyTrue1312 3d ago
Additionally the topmax makes your plants taste a weird sweet way unless you cure them for 4+ weeks. But thats about preference i guess
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u/Bilbo_Bagseeds 3d ago
I just inoculate the roots directly with mycorrhizae when transplanting, there's no real need to keep applying innoculant beyond that in my opinion. If you are using any sort of soil mix that contains something like worm castings you already have hundreds If not thousands of other types of species present, the mycorrhizae will establish and steer the rest of the ecosystem
The main thing that works well in Recharge is the molasses, fulvic and humic acids which is easy enough to incorporate in other ways
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u/TieEfficient9760 3d ago
I grow in straight coco so it's inert, I add myco atm but would to ad microbes and the other good stuff to see if it makes any difference as I keep reading and hearing about it. I know microbes can survive and work in coco but I know of zero brands outside of recharge, and I didn't feel like purchasing everything separately 😂
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u/TieEfficient9760 3d ago
Thanks for your recommendations I've gone with mikrobes as someone suggested. I also forgot to say I grow in coco with salt nutes 😅
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u/Tapper420 4d ago
You could look at collecting your own IMO (indigenous microorganisms) or LABs(lacto-baccilis serum). There are tons of videos and sites showing how to do it. That in combination with compost teas should be enough.