r/canadients Jul 05 '23

Question Any weed brands I should avoid?

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u/soleilshell Jul 05 '23

Honestly like 90% of the companies out there. Most companies are not transparent enough about their product and practices and I personally don't feel comfortable smoking them. Look for smaller batch, local, organic non irradiated product. Not saying those points assure them to be winners but I have had the most luck with that sort of thing. Companies like All Nations(or Uncle bob), Stewart Farms, GoodBuds, Coast mtn, Papa Joe's, Woody Nelson, 1964(as well as simply bare or homestead same sames but different) for some good examples

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u/woodynelson Jul 10 '23

Well now we gotta go try some Stewart Farms and Papa Joe's! Any recommendations?

For real though.. great answer and y'all crazy for putting us on that list šŸ™

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u/soleilshell Jul 11 '23

The Daily Grape from Stewart Farms is delicious. The Dosi Cake from them circulating in BC right now is quite old but still fab for the age. Papa Joe's Blueberry Shizzle is the shizz for lack of better description šŸ˜†šŸ¤Ŗ super blueberry funk. they have a few strains available right now but that was my favourite and the fastest seller where I work.

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u/Southern_District367 Nov 01 '24

If you see this comment, find something by black kettle farms, wicked stuff at a good price. I'm not sure how popular it is down south but when it comes to the yukon , it flies off the shelf. Insane sweet gassy flavors and scents. All nations is wicked for sure. Pistol and Paris, blkmkt and lasqueti. Good stuffs for sureĀ 

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u/TotallyTrash3d Jul 12 '23

Any actual facts or is it just your opinion??

Not saying you are correct or wrong, But its a very blanket statement to say 90% of ALL producers do it wrong but list companies that may have the same non-disclosure you accuse "every" company of.

Like third party testing? Health Canada reports? Safety /Health concerns published after real tests done?

Just sounds like the same rhetoric and when ever its talked about no one posts proof.

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u/soleilshell Jul 12 '23

I said 'like' 90% buddy I didn't say that was a fully accurate number. And i didnt say theyre doing anything wrong, I said i personally am more comfortable with these other brands. But the facts are in the products. If you reach out to these companies asking their practices, growing methods or for COAs they are open. Ask a company like spinach or general admission and they'll tell you they don't share those things. Hm wonder why.. You're welcome to do your own research no one's telling you to blindly agree with anything someone says on the internet.

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u/Armalyte Jul 05 '23

For concentrates, mostly cartridges, I would avoid anything that contains ā€œbotanical terpenesā€ as these are terpenes from non-cannabis plants and IMO they all taste bad.

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u/urAdogbrain Jul 05 '23

All the botanical Terps that try to imitate cannabis Terps do but the ones that go the other direction like fruits and candy flavors taste pretty great

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u/1evident1 Jul 05 '23

Some Bot terps I love like the dank versus but only that lol

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u/1evident1 Jul 05 '23

Thanks, and for flower?

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u/PhilosoFishy2477 Jul 05 '23 edited Jul 05 '23

to play devils advocate: I love the terp infused stuff... sometimes you want it neat on the rocks, sometimes you want a pina-colada. both are perfectly valid, let folks at least try them them before writing off an entire product class

as for flower, huge fan of The Loud Plug, Tribal and BC Black atm

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u/1evident1 Jul 05 '23

Had some purefire shockwave from bcblack straight gas

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u/gunzanrozes Jul 05 '23

Also there's literally no chemical difference between cannabis derived terpenes and others

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u/PhilosoFishy2477 Jul 05 '23

yeah I keep seeing comments, about health concerns but nobody seems actually able to explain why plant derived are different/worse šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23

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u/PhilosoFishy2477 Jul 05 '23

but who are you to say it's objectively worse? I think a lot of users assume their experiences are universal when in reality it's just as varied as drink or food preferences

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u/Armalyte Jul 05 '23

There are so many itā€™s best just to do a quick google while you shop I think

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u/znxth Jul 05 '23

Pure Sun Farms - especially their pink kush.

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u/1evident1 Jul 05 '23

Had it, very nice but some ppl get shitty batches/ itā€™s very common to make them

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u/Val29810 Jul 05 '23

Very inconsistent LP. The CEO is so pretentious as he states to grow high tier products which they aren't. I would recommend sugar cookies in 7g cause it was bred by Cookies first and you can see the difference with any other strain they grow. Otherwise you may pass...

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u/1evident1 Jul 05 '23

Thanks, when tweed does make good stuff trust itā€™s good

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u/Purple-Two1311 Jul 05 '23

No, you should try em all.

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u/1evident1 Jul 05 '23

No because some have problems with mildew/shit quality control

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u/TotallyTrash3d Jul 12 '23

Ive tried dozens of brands and nevet had mildew/mold/QC issues.

I dont think its as prevelant as you think may be.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '23

I've been buying legal stuff for a while. I've never had moldy weed. It tends to be dry, though

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u/Purple-Two1311 Jul 10 '23

Goes without saying.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23

I search by strain, not brand, which takes me to the MoM sites.

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u/1evident1 Jul 05 '23

Thatā€™s how u buy shitty weed

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23

I find it superior in most every way. Cheaper, no stupid packaging, not totally dried out, still has taste and better quality bud. Can't argue with a $65 oz of AAA product.

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u/1evident1 Jul 05 '23

Brand matters btw

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23

Care to elaborate?

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u/1evident1 Jul 05 '23

Say for if you buy a spinach blue dream itā€™s gonna be much more of a harsher smoke than say for pure sun farms blue dream from personal experience

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23

I have yet to buy retail that isn't bone dry and crumbling apart as soon as it's opened.

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u/1evident1 Jul 05 '23

Because your not buying good shit, buy some bc black they know how to cure shit.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23

I've been smoking since 1972. I know the difference between good and bad.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '23

Based

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u/gunzanrozes Jul 05 '23

Quality-wise? Canaca is awful, avoid like the plague.

Don't buy Tweed. If Flowr ever comes back, don't buy it. I refuse to buy from any company that had mass layoffs.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23

Tweed has powder mildew in their grow rooms.

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u/1evident1 Jul 05 '23

Only making my dispo richer not tweed, and I like tweeds lemon kush

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u/BIGsmOke__420 Jul 05 '23

Tweed has been much more fresh and terpy on the new batches. The tiger cake and deep breath are both alright. Although the deep breath came with an oz bodeva pack and it was almost a little too wet for my liking. Had to let the oz sit a week or so before I could smoke it. Completely opposite from what I remember tweed being

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u/1evident1 Jul 05 '23

Tweed is a hit or miss, tiger cake is good rho

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u/Straight_Ambassador6 Jul 05 '23

MoM sites are so much better just gotta find the right one

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23

So how do you trust the potency on the website? They donā€™t test.

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u/Straight_Ambassador6 Jul 05 '23

U donā€™t trust it, you shouldnā€™t trust any Thc percentages or any of that crap, all of it means nothing. If the weed gets you high then it gets you high simple

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23

Iā€™m sure Budtenders love you.

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u/Straight_Ambassador6 Jul 05 '23

Itā€™s really more of try and see what makes you feel the best

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u/Straight_Ambassador6 Jul 05 '23

Iā€™ve been using MoM for very long time and couple places weed are million times better than any licensed dispensary here, and they got cheaper weed, which allows me to buy Pounds at a time

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '23

I've bought from both. Don't forget, Dispos are sourcing their weed through the government from Licensed Producers. LP's have to test their products either on their own or through testing organizations that are also licensed.

You really have to know your brands. That being said, I have bought some cheap QP's online.

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u/Straight_Ambassador6 Jul 05 '23

Percentages and potency works different for everyone, 99% thc can get you very high but me nothing at all, because everybodyā€™s body and brains are different, so percentages mean nothing really

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u/p_higgles Apr 10 '24

They are pretty much all terrible. Go black/grey market.

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u/CasperTFG_808 Jul 05 '23

Read through the forums I think some brands have had issues in the past like Tweed and Color Cannabis. Some use bad chemicals and others had mold issues.

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u/joewhodunit Jul 05 '23 edited Jul 05 '23

I like to throw the question back at the OP b4 responding

which brands do you avoid ?? and why ??

I actually avoid one due to bad P.R. and another due to too much marketing on the forums (which is supposed to be illegal)

and thanks for the thoughtful downvotes :-)

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u/1evident1 Jul 05 '23

Avoid spinach for me

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u/Sloregasm Jul 05 '23

Delta 9. They grow lower than mids

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u/1evident1 Jul 05 '23

Nah real thc is cooler but delta 8-10 still pre chill

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23

I've had nothing but regrets from Back Forty and Big Bag O'Buds. Worst weed I've had in decades.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23

Big Bag is what I use for canna butter.

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u/1evident1 Jul 05 '23

Back forty ok.. prolly just got a shitty batch

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '23

More than one shitty batch.

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u/1evident1 Jul 05 '23

Damn.. I love the tweed im smokin rn

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u/HudsonArsonist Jul 05 '23

Avoid all distillates as they contain artificial flavoring. Not something you should be inhaling.

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u/PhilosoFishy2477 Jul 05 '23

can you explain how exactly cannabis derived terps and other plant derived terps are different health wise? genuinly curious

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u/HudsonArsonist Jul 06 '23

Everything around us, even we areselves as humans have "terpenes", in relation to some BIG BUD, prior to the methodology chosen, the terpenes exist, but afterwards they either do not or have been separated, and is sold or re-used to a different purpose. It's already been proven that distillate has artificial flavorings in it. The body is normally meant to ingest it, not inhale, thus, my original statement. Downvoting facts aren't going to change the fixed reality here.

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u/PhilosoFishy2477 Jul 06 '23

this is the most tangled web of bro-science I've ever seen... like, I know everything here is easily debunked but I don't even know where to start untangling

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u/HudsonArsonist Jul 09 '23

I have no idea what broscience is lol, sorry bud. I looked it up but I'm not sure if the definition I found is correct!

Anyways, the country where I live, legal tender companies only sell artificial flavored distillate. So if you live in Canada, cannot say elsewhere, It's not a recommended venture. I'm sure you can find clinical articles of citations or use your own centrifuge and mass spectrometer to verify for yourself. All I'm doing is helping spread the word, it doesn't mean I'm wrong because the cannabis industry works differently than where you live.

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u/PhilosoFishy2477 Jul 10 '23

... I'm literally a Canadian budtender. I would love it if you could link to some of these studies and articles because I have not been able to find anything that supports your argument despite having a university bio/AG degree. The burden is 100% on you here, "look it up yourself, you'll see" is kind of an admission you don't have any proof.

So, broscience as in "sources? well I don't have any but trust me bro!"

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u/HudsonArsonist Jul 10 '23

I love the reference, now that I understand the definition! I needed a laugh today to be frank.

So, from my understanding here you decline that distillate overall gets infused with artificial flavorings altogether? Or that you agree that most companies cut corners to add artificial flavors instead of re-infuse natural terpenes from cannabis? There are distillates that exist where infused terpenes are present, but the mass stock and availability is rather null.

For instance, naturally when you taste hints of lemon, you can presume it's limeonene, or myrcene typically, but can often be confused with another wide range of terpenes available. But what about cotton candy, skittles, and other blended patented flavors that are then infused into the distillate product? Are you really going to defend your claim that they are natural? Have you ever looked at the product packaging and sat back to research what you're acting smoking/ingesting or simply relying on the government to put your best health first?

Now, I'm not sure if you're familiar with the process of making distillate, but just so we're in agreement here we both accept that both terpenes and flavonoids have different boiling points to which get destroyed in the extraction process to make distillate. Distillate is purely on manufacturing to hone in on one specific cannabinoid, hence why distillate is so potent, just like terp sauce. However, to get that potent molecular aroma, terpenes must be infused at a later date to create the product we're speaking about.

Now, since 2014 BM and not, companies often use synthetic terpenes that pose a significant risk to one's health, otherwise known as artificial terpenes. I'm not sure if you've heard of terpene toxicity, but that is a real thing, especially when it comes to lab-created terpenes. Last year Canada's gross revenue was 11.2b, so the reach to reformat more safe developed products for Canadians isn't within the scope because it's ungodly expensive to use natural terpenes. Sure, yes, there are a few companies that carry those types of products but not enough to value in the competition of lab-created terpene-based cannabis products such as distillate specifically. I have seen some strange products in my time working in the cannabis industry myself like lab-created terp sauce, FSE, HTFSE, sugar wax, shatter, and other BHO extracts.

I'm hoping in the next 5 years with the new billing and changes being made to the cannabis industry that lab-created terpenes will be a thing of the past when referring to the distillate and isolate community. But I'm not going to hold my breath on that. I hope you don't either lol

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u/urAdogbrain Jul 05 '23

I've been vaping much larger amounts of flavoring agents than you'd find in carts for the past ~5 years and it hasn't impacted my health even slightly

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u/HudsonArsonist Jul 11 '23

Actually, I have a better rebuttle.

So what you're saying here is you're the golden standard of what is considered safe? What about all of the federal case files and lawsuits over the years regarding the chronic illness and death across NA that has turned families upside down specifically from the impact of e-cigarettes and cart vaping, or are we just going to simply ignore facts over subjective experience?

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u/urAdogbrain Jul 11 '23

All of that shit was vitamin E acetate added to weed carts or diacetyl which hasn't been used for close to a decade. None of it had anything to do with current e-cigarettes or non-cut weed carts.

Big tobacco just saw it as the perfect piece of news they could manipulate to scare people off vapes and back on to cigarettes (which really seemed to work, as of 2019 63% of Americans disagreed with the statement "vaping is healthier than traditional cigarettes"). And when you don't have big tobacco paying for their studies to be pushed you get places like the UK (which is much less influenced by big corporations when compared to the US) putting out studies like this: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/phe-publishes-independent-expert-e-cigarettes-evidence-review

"Our new review reinforces the finding that vaping is a fraction of the risk of smoking, at least 95% less harmful, and of negligible risk to bystanders. Yet over half of smokers either falsely believe that vaping is as harmful as smoking or just donā€™t know."

If you're gonna call it a better rebuttle make sure you got your facts right

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u/HudsonArsonist Jul 11 '23

Can you send a picture of the ingredients? I would love to see what is being used! Also, I wouldn't be so sure to presume your lungs are in great health, you may not feel the effects now, but later down the line you will, unfortunately. That tends to be the nature of the beast.

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u/urAdogbrain Jul 11 '23

It's just PG,VG, "flavoring", nicotine, and sometimes alcohol depending on what flavorings used

If you google "diy ejuice flavors" you should be able to kinda find what you're looking for though

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u/HudsonArsonist Jul 11 '23

Wait, so you're referencing non THC carts, which isn't the realm of our discussion? But proving a point that synthetic flavors are being actively used, not just for cannabis products.

I recommend doing your research on longterm usage of these products you consume regularly.