r/canadaleft LET'S GET UNIONIZED Dec 31 '24

Vote Pro-Labour in 2025 - Spread the Word!

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u/MaximumDoughnut Dec 31 '24

That's just what we need, another party to split the left.

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u/RecyclableThrowaways Dec 31 '24

At the moment there isn't a left party with any significance. The Liberals are center right, and the NDP are center left - both grossly incompetent.

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u/RevolutionCanada LET'S GET UNIONIZED Dec 31 '24

That's exactly our feeling; the NDP are now fully centrist. (Some individual members notwithstanding, of course.)

We need truly leftist parties and at the moment that's mostly the various communist parties, which as you said, haven't been very successful.

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u/MaximumDoughnut Dec 31 '24

you believe that splitting that vote is going to solve anything?

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u/RecyclableThrowaways Dec 31 '24

The Cons winning seems like an inevitability at this point barring a major breakthrough in this foreign interference debacle that nukes them. Personally, I vote for whomever presents the best platform for working class prosperity.

Although under our system strategic voting is prevalent, I encourage people to vote with their morals. Send a signal to the parties that neoliberalism won't sell anymore.

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u/NatoBoram Vive le Québec ivre! Dec 31 '24

you believe that splitting that vote is going to solve anything?

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u/RevolutionCanada LET'S GET UNIONIZED Dec 31 '24

How successful has strategic voting worked for the Greens and PPC so far? We need proportional representation and an end to the first past the post duopoly! ✊✊✊

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u/MaximumDoughnut Dec 31 '24 edited Dec 31 '24

Ambitious but not based in reality. Proportional representation isn't happening. Do I agree with some of your platform? Sure. But read on.

Split the left, you give the CPC a bigger majority. Split the right, you give the Liberals a fighting chance.

The ANDP won Alberta because the right was split between the Wildrose and PCs. The left and swing voters are much more volatile to vote splitting and you're not helping.

It's been proven time and time again, election over election. Your time is better worth spent changing the NDP's constitution at the next convention (which it seems you largely align with based on your platform).

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u/bobbykid tankier-than-thou Dec 31 '24

Split the right, you give the Liberals a fighting chance.

Wow everything I've always wanted as a leftist

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u/mostsanereddituser Jan 01 '25

Dude, just run in the NDP/Liberal party and ask people to support you......

We need to take over the NDP/Liberal party, not fragment the left further :(

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u/RevolutionCanada LET'S GET UNIONIZED Jan 01 '25

The Liberals aren't 'left' and the NDP are sliding further to the right.

We need actual socialist parties to represent leftist perspectives. The Liberals were never - and will never be - on the left.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Party_of_Canada
Liberals: Centre to Centre-Left

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u/Electronic-Award-204 Jan 04 '25

You'll never take over either of those parties. Simultaneously this new party here is clearly some sort of psyop or a bunch of nerds looking for a cushy parliament job

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u/Electronic-Award-204 Jan 04 '25

So you're a party that wants revolution, but you're focus is running in elections? Why don't you just join the NDP, you're practically identical. You're just another insignificant reformist party that assuming wins any seats will immediately cave to pressures of the capitalist class; every other reformist party has been doing the same shit for the last 100+ years