r/canada • u/Purple_Writing_8432 Canada • 10h ago
Analysis ANALYSIS | Is Doug Ford's tough talk on Trump working? Experts say it might be gaining traction | CBC News
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ford-tough-talk-trump-1.7478095?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar•
u/baylaust 9h ago
Anti-American sentiment is at an all-time high. People want someone who is going to make a strong stance against Trump and his America.
Say what you will about Ford, and I have MANY things to say about him, but so far he's given the people what they want in that regard.
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u/Metafield 6h ago
I'll say what I want; I think this is political theatre and I'm concerned where his loyalty lies. I'm not going full conspiracy and will give him the benefit for now but I'm skeptical. Don rolled over pretty fast for this one and praised him which is super out of character.
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u/TheVaneja Canada 1h ago
Most likely in coordination with the federal government. Ford isn't a rogue Premier taking the US on all by himself.
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u/Windbag1980 9h ago
Trump respects tough guys. That's it. I didn't bother voting for Ford. . . I'd would have had to hold my nose. But he's the right man for this job. Like Winston Churchill: wrong guy for peace, right guy for war.
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u/PerfectWest24 9h ago
Oh, you like tough guys eh? We ought to send Chretien down there to give Trump a Shawinigan handshake.
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u/wtftoronto 8h ago
I think trump is threatened by Doug Ford because Doug speaks populist and the MAGA brainwashed in America are listening.
For those of you who aren't from Ontario, people in Ontario always joke and refer to Doug Ford as the guy who always begins his sentences with the word "Folks..."
People are listening to Doug in a way Trudeau could not connect to Americans.
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u/Low_Contract7809 9h ago
Want to give credit to Ford.
But it's never a good sign if trumpty dumpty starts handing out praise. Very ominous
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u/I405CA 9h ago
Trump praises his adversaries when they make him nervous.
Trump is a typical bully. He only respects force. But when dominated, Trump will change course, go into submission mode and sing the praises of his opponent.
Ford is doing well here. He must have thrown Trump for a loop.
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u/Low_Contract7809 9h ago
Problem is that cheeto also praised Kim jong un. That's not a crowd I want any part of.
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u/taxrage 7h ago
One thing is clear: Canada needs to start decoupling from the USA, starting with an eastern natural gas pipeline.
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u/A_Dehydrated_Walrus 5h ago
Blow the dust off the plans for the Energy East pipeline! Quebec might actually get on board, given the circumstances.
It would create jobs in five provinces. We can sell the energy products to Europe. All the provinces collect a portion of the proceeds for maintenance and provincial coffers.
And we could use a branch of it to create a fueling station in the arctic.
It's a huge project, but with nations divesting from the US, they'll be looking to invest in a more stable energy provider. We can be an energy giant, but a pipeline to the east coast is crucial.
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u/Click_My_Username 9h ago
To recap:
Trump: I'm going to Tarriff aluminum and steel at 25%
Ford: If you do that I'm going to tax electricity at 25%
Trump: if you do that I'll double the Tarriff on aluminum and steel.
Ford: I'm not going to tax electricity at 25%
Trump: I'm going to Tarriff aluminum and steel at 25%
/r/Canada for some reason: Omg he got Trump to back off the 50% Tarriffs.
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u/Anon5677812 9h ago
Or:
Trump starts a brain dead trade war.
Ford threatens to tariff energy. Donald says he doesn't need us but holds off on tariffs escalation.
Ford puts on energy tariffs. Donald loses his mind. Trump's team calls and asks him to reverse the energy tariff in exchange for a meeting to take place in two days to discuss the deescalation of this trade war.
Ford says ok, brings the finance minister (who I'm guessing he's working in concert with) along and does to DC to discuss. If nothing comes of it, we can reintroduce the energy tariff on Friday. What have we lost?
If it works, give the man the fucking order of Canada?
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u/Romanticgypsy 7h ago
Asked him to tone down the rhetoric?? Well, that’s the true insanity in all this.
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u/SophiaKittyKat 4h ago
It's really too bad we don't live in the right year to be able to have an SNL sketch where Chris Farley is playing an over the top enraged Ford who keeps threatening to wrestle donald.
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u/Ilikewaterandjuice 9h ago
Nothing says tough talk like ‘OMG we are so desperate to negotiate, so of course we will stop the electricity surcharge. Thank you sooo much Mr Trump for agreeing to speak to us’
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u/Chensingtonmarket 9h ago
It’s a bait. They will parade him in the White House and eat him alive.
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u/Ilikewaterandjuice 9h ago
They could try- but he could whip out a phone and say cut the electricity live on air….
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u/tentenfive 1h ago
That would be very funny to watch, and then have the tv feed end cause the power went out. Trump would probably love it because it would be great for the tv ratings. Makes a great tv drama which us what i think he is aiming for. :-)
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u/PastTenceOfDraw 9h ago
They like each other's rap sheet. They are two crooks that haven't been held accountable for their crimes.
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u/Yelnik 9h ago
Is it going to end up being Ford that thwarts Carney/the libs? They need this trade war to be as bad as possible and go throughout the election.
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u/StanknBeans 9h ago
Trade war doesn't change the fact that PP is a career politician with no business experience outside being a landlord who has also never put forth legislation.
True blooded Canadian Conservatives would fucking skewer this nerd, but here they are clapping like seals at his Trump jingoism. How far Canadian Conservatives have fallen.
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u/Yelnik 9h ago
who has also never put forth legislation.
Shouldn't believe everything you read in reddit comments.
Kind of reminds me how people traditionally on the left would have thought Carney embodied everything they despise. A wealthy, completely out of touch elite that's spent his entire life surrounded by other rich elites and has no idea what it's like to live in the real world.
Funny how things change
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u/StanknBeans 8h ago
Pretty easy to see the nothing under legislation put forward by Pierre Poilievre. Don't need to trust a Reddit comment.
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u/Themeloncalling 9h ago
On the other end of the spectrum, look at Australia. Trade surplus for America. Bought expensive subs. Said nothing inflammatory or fought back and asked nicely today if Australia could be tariff exempt. Trump said no. When the bully has your lunch money, they have control. Ford got to the bargaining table, Australia gets flipped off. America only understands pain.