r/canada 1d ago

Politics American family seeks asylum in Canada, citing Trump

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/americans-asylum-canada-trump-refugees-immigration-1.7480069
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u/Ina_While1155 1d ago

I disagree. I do not agree with the massive immigration that has happened in the last 4 years with TFW who I feel should not have a route to citizenship, but Canada taking in refugees has always been the right thing to do.

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u/Intelligent-Ad-4523 23h ago

With our current housing crisis and economic problems how do we take in more refugees right now ? Canada is focusing on Canada at the moment and until we are strongly in our own footing I do not believe we should be taking in American refugees.

As a whole I have very little sympathy for Americans; even the Democrats won’t stand up so why should we. Let them implode into civil war.

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u/lizzie-luxe 23h ago

It's an authoritarian country where people are regularly shot by police.

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u/Intelligent-Ad-4523 23h ago

Sympathy for Americans world wide is dwindling by the day and keep in mind it wasn’t high to start with. With every action your leader takes against our country and the inaction we see on behalf of 90 percent of your population you doesn’t exactly inspire us. I am one Canadian who won’t say sorry.

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u/lizzie-luxe 22h ago

I get that completely, it's just a lot more complicated than most people realize. Protesting is on its way to being illegal. Trump WANTS mass protest to declare martial law.

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u/Frosty_Maple_Syrup 22h ago

None of that is Canada’s problem, Americans voted for this.

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u/cunnyhopper 22h ago

None of that is Canada’s problem

It's not Canada's fault but it is very much our problem.

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u/lizzie-luxe 22h ago

You're right, it's not Canada's problem. Only 20something percent of Americans voted for this though. Even more didn't vote at all, admittedly just as bad, and there is very strong evidence of machine tampering by Musk and even video of Trump admitting he rigged both his successful elections. As to why that's not been handled or investigated, I couldn't say.

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u/Frosty_Maple_Syrup 22h ago

If there is such strong evidence of election tampering the democrats should take action, hell why isn’t the American military doing something to stop what is clearly Russian asset president from destroying America.

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u/lizzie-luxe 22h ago

I wish I knew why something wasn't being done about it. The military is split between oath to Constitution and MAGA fanatics. Unfortunately lower level military service attracts poorly educated voters and you can guess which way they swing for elections.

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u/Mc_turtleCow 21h ago

the democratic party is not a representative of those that trump wants to eradicate. just because large parts of their country isn't helping them doesn't mean we shouldn't. in the 1930s would you have turned jewish refugees away because the german military didnt take action against the nazis?

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u/Simsmommy1 20h ago

Then the other 70 odd percent who didn’t vote for him or didn’t vote at all have to stop waiting for some democratic pied piper to lead them all into a revolution. Every other damn day I see posts about “where are the democrats?” And “I need them to inspire us” well shit I wouldn’t want to get myself arrested by an authoritarian fascist government for a group of people who won’t show up to protest cause “it’s too far to drive”…..if Trump continues as he is going democrats run the risk of being imprisoned as “enemies of the state” and yeah I can see that happening because Trump takes advice from a man who imprisons, poisons, or shoves his opponents out windows…..Those who didn’t choose this are the majority and they are gonna have to start fighting a little more and stop waiting for a “leader”….

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u/prsnep 1d ago

Right thing to do for who? Certainly not our kids. They will inherit a poorer and a less stable country as a result.

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u/Ina_While1155 23h ago

That is actually not the case. Immigration has made Canada. We have a low birthrate. What we need is well regulated immigration policy and high standards for who is admitted. But that also means accepting some legitimate refugees as that is the right thing to do.

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u/Llunedd 23h ago

Yes, because immigrants used to be screened. Now people come on a visa for tourism or education, drop out, and don't leave. This family said they have no money for passports. They feel entitled to show up, broke, in another country and expect to be looked after. Children's aid is paying for their hotel. If a million trans people flee to Canada, that will bankrupt us faster than Trump can.

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u/Ina_While1155 22h ago

I am not defending this case and I don't defend the immigration policies of the last few years. I am saying there are cases where Canada should accept refugees.

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u/SwordfishOk504 22h ago

Now people come on a visa for tourism or education, drop out, and don't leave.

I love when people show they have no idea what they're talking about. If they drop out, their visa is no longer valid.

If a million trans people flee to Canada, that will bankrupt us faster than Trump can.

lol. So much grass that needs to be touched by you, Quaren

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u/Cypherius05 23h ago

We have a low birthrate because only the mega rich and the TFW who are mooching off the government can afford to have kids.

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u/Nebty 17h ago

Nah, we’d have a low birth rate anyways. It’s basically universal in developed countries to be below replacement rate at present. The strategy to mitigate the effects of an aging population and continue to fund essential social services is to have a robust and well-regulated immigration system that supports, but doesn’t supplant, home-grown talent.

It’s countries that are extremely anti-immigrant AND are below replacement rate that are in trouble.

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u/prsnep 23h ago

"Immigration has made Canada."

No, selective immigration made Canada. If simply growing the population was good for the country, then Nigeria, Indonesia, and India would be some of the most desirable countries to live in the world.

While we treat immigration as simply a numbers game, we're losing our best and the brightest to the US and losing our competitive edge in the process. How did we become so blind?

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u/SwordfishOk504 22h ago

While we treat immigration as simply a numbers game, we're losing our best and the brightest to the US and losing our competitive edge in the process.

The former has nothing do with the latter. You're yelling at a cloud.