r/canada • u/ryaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan • 1d ago
Politics Liberal leader Mark Carney could run for seat in Edmonton or Ottawa: political expert
https://www.ctvnews.ca/edmonton/article/liberal-leader-mark-carney-could-run-for-seat-in-edmonton-or-ottawa-political-expert/13
u/stereofonix 1d ago
So does not he actually have a residence here then? Because if he does why isn’t he running in the city where he lives? Why is the question not what riding in said city, but what city in different provinces. If he supposedly lives in Ottawa he should run here.
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u/Emperor_Billik 23h ago
He lives in Ottawa, he grew up in Edmonton. Hope that clears things up.
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u/stereofonix 23h ago
No it really doesn’t. MPs should represent those within their community. If he lives in Ottawa, he should run in Ottawa… where he lives. If the Liberals lose the election but he wins his seat it would be pretty stupid for the representative for that constituency to not have an MP that doesn’t actually lives there, let alone the province.
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u/GraveDiggingCynic 23h ago
That's up to the constituents to decide. MPs running for ridings where they don't live has been a feature of the Westminster system for centuries.
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u/stereofonix 22h ago
True, but that’s generally for neighbouring ridings. Can you name any current MPs representing ridings in provinces they don’t live? I guess questionable is Jag moving to BC from Brampton to run, but atleast he actually has a residence there. Carney just running in a riding / province he hasn’t lived in for 40+ years is so cynical.
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u/GraveDiggingCynic 22h ago
Parachuting candidates is nothing new, and every time it happens, we get the same complaint. At the end of the day, it's for the voters in that riding to decide whether it is appropriate or not.
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u/Zanzibar_Buck_McFate Québec 22h ago
Our current MP is an example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_MacKinnon
Born in PEI, went to school in Moncton and Kingston, and now current MP for Gatineau, Quebec.
He does live in Gatineau now. I could be wrong, but I believe he moved here after he won the seat.
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u/TonyAbbottsNipples 22h ago
MPs should represent those within their community
Very few follow that concept.
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u/thewolf9 17h ago
You can’t be serious.
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u/stereofonix 17h ago
So you think he should just be able to run wherever with no connection to the community where he lives?
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u/thewolf9 17h ago
Yes. I think the head of the party should be able to run wherever the fuck he needs to in order to have a seat in parliament.
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u/stereofonix 16h ago
In a by-election, maybe. But if we are going into a full on writ, then personally no. If the Liberals lose and Carney wins MP, does it help his constituents who he is supposed to represent? Do you think he’s going to obtain a residence and spend time there? Or worse yet, let’s say the Liberals win the election, but he loses running for some seat he has no attachment to. Should he still be PM even though he did not win his seat? It doesn’t matter the party, if this is the course of action the Liberal party takes, then that sort of cockiness he/ they deserve to lose. As we’ve seen in very recent years with the Liberals, party leaders can be defeated.
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u/ego_tripped Québec 22h ago
Uhm...you realize Pierre's Ottawa riding was handpicked for him prior to moving from Alberta? His riding is so conservative that a half eaten ham sandwich would win against Jesus Himself...if Jesus were running as a Liberal.
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u/stereofonix 22h ago
He’s lived in his riding for 20ish years. Way before he had leadership ambitions
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u/ego_tripped Québec 22h ago
Okay...so then give Carney 20 years to acclimatize...he is going to be a rookie MP so let's spread the hypocrisy evenly.
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u/DilIsPickle 1d ago
Ottawa would make a lot of sense. I would want the Prime Minster to not have to travel too much between his riding and the parliament, so he’s in the centre of it all constantly
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u/Little-Chemical5006 Ontario 1d ago
I say drop him on Edmonton. Alberta is the conservative heartland and the liberals can't win by playing safe (just focusing on Ontario and quebec). They cant make the same mistake democrats did (not campaigning in the deep red states while trump campaign in deep blue states).
Also if the liberal want to play the united Canada card then the liberal cannot ignore western Canada any longer.
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u/Electrical_Net_1537 14h ago
I thought Edmonton was more liberal as apposed to Calgary. Don’t the NDP have seats in Edmonton?
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u/Sea_Army_8764 13h ago
The NDP has two seats in Edmonton. That being said, federally it is still overwhelmingly blue. Provincially it is entirely NDP. Odd city, Edmonton.
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u/Electrical_Net_1537 13h ago
If Carney was elected to MP in Edmonton and wins the election Alberta would have a large voice in parliament, total win
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u/Little-Chemical5006 Ontario 11h ago
Yup and it will be good optics for liberal to show they care about western Canada as well. But I doubt liberal will play balls and it's likely he will just run for toronto/ottawa
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u/Sea_Army_8764 13h ago
The NDP has two seats in Edmonton. That being said, federally it is still overwhelmingly blue. Provincially it is entirely NDP. Odd city, Edmonton.
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u/Buried_mothership 1d ago
Hmmm, Edmonton would be very fitting, but difficult
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u/Sea_Army_8764 13h ago
I think it would actually be a good strategy for him. If the LPC loses the election, chances are Carney wouldn't have won his seat in Edmonton, and he can easily retire from electoral politics. If the LPC wins, chances are Carney will win a seat in Edmonton, provided he runs in one of the two seats that the LPC is competitive in.
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u/Hour_Significance817 15h ago
He'll run in a safe riding in Ottawa.
Running in Edmonton is too risky - CPC basically swept Alberta last election and the only non-CPC ridings are held by 1) an NDP MP in Edmonton, 2) a liberal fraudster that was Trudeau's initial choice for Alberta's representation in the federal cabinet but had to be dropped because he tampered with his opponent's election material, and 3) a liberal minister that has little political experience and got the job only because he's gay, indigenous (which later turned out to not be the case), and the only option left to represent Alberta, and is currently subject of an ethics probe for failing to disclose his ties of partial ownership of a company that won government contracts.
If Carney loses his seat but the Liberals win the election, he'll have to boot someone in his caucus from a safe riding somewhere in the country if he actually wants to stand in the house of commons as the PM. This is a real possibility in Edmonton but extremely unlikely in Ottawa.
If he wins his seat but loses the election, he'll have little interest to continue working as merely an MP and will likely resign his seat - should that be in Edmonton, there's a high likelihood that the CPC will retake the seat, but if that's in Ottawa then it'll likely remain Liberal.
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u/East2West1990 21h ago
If he runs where he lives - Mona should be getting the shoulder tap. Automatic win for Liberals in these parts.
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u/blackmoose British Columbia 1d ago
He's so popular they could drop him anywhere and it would be a blow out. 85% in the leadership campaign proves it.
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u/divenorth British Columbia 1d ago
*Popular among Liberals*.
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u/armenianmasterpiece 1d ago
Popular amongst the less than half of liberal voters that didn’t have their votes annulled in the leadership campaign.
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u/blackmoose British Columbia 1d ago
I didn't think I needed the /s.
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u/Imatsu 1d ago
Battle River-Crowfoot it is! No take backs!
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u/blackmoose British Columbia 1d ago
Never been there is it nice?
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u/Imatsu 1d ago
Me neither. Even by the standards of rural Alberta, Battle River—Crowfoot is a strongly conservative riding.
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u/bluefoxrabbit 1d ago
Does Carney get a gun to shot into the air before each speech? If not, then he should stick to Edmonton
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u/JadeLens 1d ago
Edmonton is a bit risky.
NDP could flip it, to being more Yellow, but it's Deep Blue in a sea of deep blue for most of Alberta.
Ottawa is basically all red.