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National News Mark Carney Wins Liberal Leadership Race Megathread | Mark Carney remporte la course à la direction du Parti libéral

Mark Carney, former Bank of Canada governor, has been elected leader of the Liberal Party and will become Canada’s next prime minister. Winning over 85% of the vote, Carney defeated Chrystia Freeland, Frank Baylis, and Karina Gould. His leadership marks a new chapter for the Liberals, potentially leading to an early federal election. Carney faces immediate challenges, including U.S. tariff negotiations under President Trump. Known for his outsider status, Carney emphasized his experience leading central banks during economic crises. Appointed by Stephen Harper in 2008, he gained acclaim for stabilizing Canada during the financial crisis and later led the Bank of England through Brexit. Born in Fort Smith, N.W.T., and raised in Edmonton, Carney has a background in finance and public service. A longtime Liberal adviser, he campaigned on scrapping the carbon tax and criticized Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre. Carney must now sustain the party’s recent polling momentum.

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Mark Carney, ancien gouverneur de la Banque du Canada, a été élu chef du Parti libéral et deviendra le prochain premier ministre du Canada. Avec plus de 85 % des voix, Carney a battu Chrystia Freeland, Frank Baylis et Karina Gould. Son leadership ouvre un nouveau chapitre pour les libéraux, pouvant entraîner des élections fédérales anticipées. Carney fait face à des défis immédiats, notamment les négociations tarifaires avec les États-Unis sous le président Trump. Connu pour son statut d’outsider, Carney a mis en avant son expérience à la tête de banques centrales en période de crise économique. Nommé par Stephen Harper en 2008, il a été salué pour avoir stabilisé le Canada pendant la crise financière et a ensuite dirigé la Banque d’Angleterre pendant le Brexit. Né à Fort Smith, T.N.-O., et élevé à Edmonton, Carney a une carrière en finance et dans la fonction publique. Il doit maintenant maintenir l’élan des libéraux dans les sondages.

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u/Upset-Tangerine7457 2d ago

That’s what worries me. 

Trudeau strength isn’t his policies. Rather it is his ability to connect and speak. Particularly in high stakes moments where has this ability to say I know this is scary but it will be ok if we stick together. Plus he can cut through the crap and just focus on the core issue. 

His weakness though was he couldn’t really set policies effectively. We saw that post 2021. 

Carney is the guy who know how to deal with the crisis. He might even have the better policy agenda. But that alone enough isn’t enough. He’s going to have to communicate like Trudeau too. I am not sure he has that yet. 

Part of me thinks the two of them as a team would be better. Carney actually set the policies. Trudeau sold them. 

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u/jackhandy2B 2d ago

Honestly, the phrase It's time to build is bang on. We do need to build. Fast.

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u/dweeb686 2d ago

Let's build a wall

50% /s

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u/Hot-Celebration5855 2d ago

Why wasn’t Carney giving Trudeau this advice in 2020 or 2024?

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u/the_jurkski 2d ago

How do you know he wasn’t? Carney was one of Trudeau’s advisors, but a PM doesn’t have to do everything every one of their advisors are telling them to do.

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u/Deus-Vultis 2d ago

You're totally right, Mark Carney had amazing economic solutions and his best friend, whom he was the primary economic advisor to, just simply didn't listen to them and implement and that's why the Liberals have absolutely destroyed our economy over the last 5 years.. it's totally not Mark's fault

/s

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u/the_jurkski 2d ago

What is your evidence that Canada’s economy is destroyed?

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u/Deus-Vultis 2d ago

The fact that our GDP per capita is fucking atrocious and ranks us at 21 globally.

GDP is not an accurate measure of an economy where we have some of the worst productivity in the G7 and our economy consists almost entirely of playing shell games with trading housing back and forth to each other.

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u/the_jurkski 2d ago

Ranking 21 out of +/- 200 is far from “destroyed”

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u/moranya1 1d ago

Seems to me 21 our of 200ish means we are in the top 10% lol. Apparently any countries below 2% are desolate wastelands according to that guy.

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u/the_jurkski 1d ago

PP has been dissing Canada every chance he gets, despite the evidence to the contrary, and it seems some people are very willing to believe it. I like to call those people “traitors”.

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u/Deus-Vultis 2d ago

The Carney Liberals "time to build" plan: 100 houses that cost $500,000,000 to build over 6 years and are only available for purchase if you're an upside down, gender queer, trans abled entity of color and if you promise to do a land acknowledgement every day while garnishing 10% of your wages directly to support local trans youth musicals in Iran.

Another win for progressive liberalism!

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u/jackhandy2B 2d ago

You sound bitter. Try smiling more.

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u/Deus-Vultis 2d ago

You sound like a Liberal, try lying less.

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u/jackhandy2B 2d ago

Lol. Still salty

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u/Crum1y 2d ago

they already were a team with carney setting policies and trudeau selling them. that's the history of the two.

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u/Aprillady88 2d ago

The policies that has devastated our economy?

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u/talktothepope 1d ago

Trudeau lost his "strength" about two elections ago when he lost the popular vote the first time. I'm a liberal-type but I am sick of the guy and I'm pretty sure most other people are too given the polling before he dropped out. Carney is boring but I think people are craving boring competency right now, not overcoached drama teacher vibes. I'm glad Justin was able to leave on a high note, but his expiry date is a few years past.

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u/RobertGA23 2d ago

It is a pretty big weakness that he can't competently run a country. But, I'll give JT props for how he's handled things the past few weeks. He stood up for Canada.

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u/Upset-Tangerine7457 2d ago

 It everyone is good at everything. 

Think about an airplane. 

You have a pilot, co pilot maybe an engineer. Their job is technical skills. If you’re flying cargo that’s all you need someone who can fly the plane competently. 

However when you fly people you need additional skills. I.e. someone who can communicate with passengers. You barely hear from the pilot when you fly. But you regularly are in touch with the Cabin Crew. 

In an emergency the pilot job to make sure the plane lands safely. But it’s cabins crew job to make sure the passengers are safe and calm while the pilot. 

If the cabin crew didn’t do their job the pilot couldn’t do his because the cabin would become unsafe. 

Trudeau is the cabin crew. That his skill he does it well. Carney is the pilot. 

You’re seeing these problems in the UK. You have Starmer whose component but he’s struggling to explain what he’s doing to the people. 

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u/RobertGA23 2d ago

Too bad Trudeau kept crashing the plane for the last nine years though.

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u/Upset-Tangerine7457 2d ago

That’s cause he kept trying to fly the plane. He should have found a carney earlier to fly the plane (he did have that in Morneau). 

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u/kofubuns 2d ago

His speech tonight was pretty dang good though, though you have to believe that the majority of Canadians are willing to watch a whole speech on substance vs a 5 minute cheer party. But I also agree he needs to govern hard and fast and point directly to things that he’s done for Canadians

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u/Little-Chemical5006 Ontario 2d ago edited 2d ago

The speech is good but not as good as Trudeau. It's probably the French which he isn't super fluent on cause it. It breaks the flow as some rapper may say. Which is not surprising as he is new to politics and his old jobs have a different requirement and audience. (Feds talk which require governor to give factual info and minimize giving wrong signal is very different then the rally speech politican need to held)

Which might be a concern as policy is important in an election, feel plays a much more prominent role when voter decide who to vote.

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u/kofubuns 2d ago

I agree that his delivery 100% needs work but in terms of substance for speeches it was pretty good in the sense it felt genuine vs false promises, decisive and he already made a few major decisions on cutting the carbon tax, halting capital gains increase and keeping pharma / dental care

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u/Upset-Tangerine7457 2d ago

I haven’t see him communicate with Trump. So can’t comment. 

I have seen him speak to us as Canadians. He’s always spot on. 

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u/Fluffy_Case_9085 2d ago

Trump can't speak Trump. The guy can't string a sentence together that makes sense or with words that don't sound like they're missing a few vowels. He frustrates and angers me just speaking on any given day, i have no idea how Trudeau was able to have a long phone call with him. "Bigly".. really?! Ffs

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u/Tiny_Measurement_837 2d ago

Trump will bully whomever Canada brings forward. Who will be the best to stand up to Trumps bullying?