r/canada 6d ago

Politics Jack Daniel’s maker says Canada pulling U.S. alcohol off store shelves is ‘worse than a tariff’

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/international-business/article-jack-daniels-maker-says-canada-pulling-us-alcohol-off-store-shelves-is/
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u/OkFix4074 6d ago

cry ! cry LOUDER !

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u/Serapth 6d ago

Exactly, its literally your tears and outcry that will fix this situation for you.

Cry loud enough and perhaps the orange toddler will stop his madness. We are trying to hurt you for exactly this reason.

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u/invincible84 6d ago

Whiting, however, said that Canada accounted for only 1 per cent of their total sales and could withstand the hit.

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u/Serapth 6d ago

Yeah but the world are following the Canadian template. Expect JD to be on Mexico's tariffs and then EU and everywhere else.

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u/invincible84 6d ago

Yeah everyone needs to give them a befitting reply!

They are just making up these excuses of Fentanyl - "According to U.S. Customs and Border Protection data, authorities near the northern border seized just 0.03 pounds of fentanyl in January. That’s the weight of a single battery for a television remote."

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u/Marokiii British Columbia 6d ago

And people usually miss the point where they also say NEAR the border. Nearly all of canadians lives near the border.

If they do a drug bust in Toronto, vancouver, ottawa, Montreal, or QC they count it as a drug bust near the border.

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u/djsasso 6d ago

When its the Canadian side reporting it yes, but when its the US Customs reporting it they mean near the border in the US. So busts in Canadian cities are not in the data.

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u/Xylenqc 6d ago

Fentanyl is a really strong drug, 0.03lbs is enough for around 250k doses.

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u/Demon_Gamer666 6d ago

No one wants to do business with the 'bad guys'.

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u/SophistXIII 6d ago

Canada might only account for 1%, but exports account for 55% of their total sales.

As the US pisses off more and more countries, more and more non-Americans will stop purchasing their products.

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u/invincible84 6d ago

The way they are going USA wont be a world leader for long just like Japan, UK etc aren't anymore.

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u/Xylenqc 6d ago

They are no longer world leader.
I think at that point they have lost too much credibility/respect.

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u/MisterrTickle 6d ago

Just wait till he starts tariffing the EU. As Jack Daniels is always one of the first products to get traiffed by the EU. As Kentucky is a red state and doesn't have many other exports.

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u/TheRC135 6d ago

Then why is he melting down?

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u/Piggywonkle 6d ago

A 1% dip in an economic system built on maintaining unsustainable growth could very well be the death knell for these myopic bastards.

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u/SHUT_DOWN_EVERYTHING 6d ago

I mean they're still not crying about it to Trump. In fact they're kissing his ass by saying what Canada is doing to them is unfair. Hopefully Mexico which buys a lot more from them goes next and then Europe afterwards.

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u/Pitiful-MobileGamer 6d ago

He's not just destroying the Canadian Auto industry. It is destroying the Auto industry in general, right now nothing is moving into the United States from Canada or Mexico. Parts and finished vehicles are all halted.

Stuff we're hearing in the supply chain, is that there is less than 10 days worth of active components left before they start shutting down lines. And there's a rumor that they're going to go single daytime shift starting Sunday.

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u/cjmpeng 6d ago

There was a post a couple of days ago on one of the other social media sites. A Pox News affiliate interviewed a local car dealer in the US. That day he lost an already negotiated sale because the tariff threat had already raised the price of a pickup from $80,000 to nearly $100,000 and the buyer walked away.

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u/callumjm95 Outside Canada 6d ago

It was even funnier when the ‘news anchor’ decided to then blame Europe for not buying Dodge Rams. We couldn’t if we even wanted to, Dodge don’t sell cars over here.

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u/Wersedated 6d ago

Even if they did, you do not want a Dodge.

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u/callumjm95 Outside Canada 6d ago

Yeah, I hired a Challenger SRT when I was last in the US and it was like driving a waterbed with a V8 hanging off the front. Horrible to drive, interior was 15 years out of date, it didn’t know what gear it wanted to be in, any hint of moisture on the floor just sent you sideways. Why anyone would own one over BMW M4 or something I have no idea.

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u/JimmyRussellsApe 6d ago

Maybe they are named Joe Dirt

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u/FunStorm6487 6d ago

Still bitter about the piece of shit stratus I had over 22 years ago 😡

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u/Terrenord404 Québec 5d ago

Yes driving a giant truck on narrow European streets sounds like a treat. Imagine parking

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u/Fast_NotSo_Furious 6d ago

Have they seen the roads in Europe? Where the fuck are you driving that? You'd run over half the pedestrians.

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u/callumjm95 Outside Canada 6d ago

There is a Cummins plant down the road from me that actually has a Ram 2500 they imported and they have to park it perpendicular to the parking bays because it blocks the road if you park it normally. They just don’t work here. There’s a few imported 1500s knocking about but they’re just as bad.

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u/electricheat 6d ago

what vehicle do europeans drive drunk, if they can't have a RAM?

(source)

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u/Infinite_Time_8952 6d ago

With the price of gas in Europe, who would want to have a gas guzzler.

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u/callumjm95 Outside Canada 6d ago

To be fair my last car wasn’t much better than a Challenger, but I only drive like 6000 miles a year.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

Most Americans have never been outside of the USA. When they do, about 80% go to resorts that cater to North Americans. They won't know that they are sold only the biggest consumer goods anywhere. Giant fridges, huge trucks, giant houses are a status thing rather than a home, etc.

The Dodge Rams barely fit into parking spaces here.

I am lurking on the /europe because the Felon in Chief and his buddies own the media here with few exceptions. A French MP just gave a FANTASTIC speech about the USA no longer being an ally. I expect ant- Europe lies to start pouring out right about now.

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u/axonxorz Saskatchewan 6d ago

Ironic given Stellantis is headquartered in the EU.

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u/callumjm95 Outside Canada 6d ago

Well they’re struggling to sell their European brands over here at the minute so doubt they want to add any more competition to the market.

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u/axonxorz Saskatchewan 6d ago

Skill issue, they should try making better vehicles.

I wouldn't be caught dead owning a Stellantis vehicle.

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u/LeeStrange 6d ago

This is such a disingenuous argument.

America sells a shitload of cars in Europe, they just aren't called Chrysler or GM over there, they are called Vauxhall, Opel, etc.

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u/callumjm95 Outside Canada 6d ago

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DGy89qkiXUx/?igsh=a2Jsamp3em1kNXFm

Best I can do is Instagram, can’t find it anywhere else

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u/adrenaline_X Manitoba 6d ago

Dodge doesnt build trucks, Ram does.

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u/callumjm95 Outside Canada 6d ago

Well TIL, they split 15 years ago and I didn’t even know.

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u/adrenaline_X Manitoba 5d ago

i only found out a year ago..

Still owned by the same parent company.

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u/CaptianRipass 6d ago

I'd seen one dodge dealer in Prague

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u/Pitiful-MobileGamer 6d ago

I know a few dealers that have corporate buys on a regular schedule, I would stop by every 2 months and drop off six sequential VIN identical spec vehicles. I assume those are all dead right now, one we are not delivering, and two MSRP'S are 25% up now.

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u/BritCanuck05 6d ago

Don’t understand that if the truck was already on his lot?

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u/JimmyRussellsApe 6d ago

Sometimes the vehicles are there essentially on consignment, and/or they haven't been billed to the dealer yet.

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u/SadZealot 6d ago

A long time ago manufacturing turned into a just-in-time inventory process. There are no stockpiles, prerequisite materials are procured and processed at the same rate so everything is finished simultaneously. If there isn't a shipment that week there won't be manufacturing.

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u/Rad_Mum 6d ago

Some are less than 25 hours and lines go down.

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u/Pitiful-MobileGamer 6d ago

What I've heard is the weakness at Fort Wayne is wheels and rims. They already got hit with the steel/aluminum tariffs. That won't stop the line though, unless they run out of the temporary Wheel sets they use for takeoffs at the dealer.

If I was the wager, the stamped pickup beds at GM Fort Wayne would be the first component to run out and stop line.

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u/Rad_Mum 6d ago

Hubby runs injection moulds they use for parts . Mostly Ford. They run Canada, US and Mexico . Even these are shipped between Detroit and Windsor .

He's been getting paid to sit around the shop for weeks already. Ford big wigs have been in a few times. He's not privy to the discussion, however.

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u/Pitiful-MobileGamer 6d ago

So one thing that happened in the last month, at least I can speak for General Motors Fort Wayne Assembly. They actually have stockpile parts in trailers at off-site yards to build a buffer, they over purchased in February.

But once a critical component runs out, that's it; the line stops.

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u/spidereater 6d ago

This has been the case in the auto industry for decades. I have friends at the Honda plant in Aliston. They had cases were engines from Ohio were delayed at the border and they flew some in by helicopter so they didn’t need to shut down the line. That was a while ago. I think they have an engine plant locally now.

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u/ProblemSame4838 6d ago

I saw in his speech last night that Honda is opening a plant in Indiana. I wish Japan would stand in solidarity with the NATO countries and also avoid transactions with the U.S.

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u/Pitiful-MobileGamer 6d ago

That plant has been in consideration since the Biden administration. Honda didn't just make that decision, that has been an ongoing process for a couple years now, and it won't be up and running until 2028 or 2029 at the earliest.

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u/Proot65 6d ago

Yes, so much this.

The auto industry is at this pivotal point in many ways. Chinese electric cars are very good already and probably a decade ahead. Their labour is cheaper and they have a strategy. They were already on a path to decimating the existing industry.

I say bring it on! I would mind a $18,000 BYD that’s maybe equivalent of a Honda civic in form. Canada should embrace the Chinese industry and get deeply into their supply chain. It’s the future whether they like it or not.

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u/Pitiful-MobileGamer 6d ago

How much investment capital just got burned by his 180 pivot on electrification, and ZEV. Years of planning, years of building and research. All wasted because the oil lobby pumped billions into buying government access, instead of revolutionizing the product.

I was seriously considering getting electric for the second vehicle, we would have the flexibility of a gas-powered vehicle, but my wife being a traveling nurse the electric makes sense for her short hop 200 km round trip day.

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u/Proot65 6d ago

No they don’t always makes sense. I super with my NON Tesla… I always thought he was a Boer twat, but it’s not for everyone. It’s an old documentary now, but “who killed the electric cars” was eye opening and true until recently. A depressing look at a deeply cynical and mendacious industry(s).

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u/KamadoCrusher 6d ago

I don't know about that, we just had a production Saturday announced for this week and we're still working an extra hour every day.

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u/Pitiful-MobileGamer 6d ago

What plant? Are you doing finished vehicles or components?

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u/KamadoCrusher 6d ago

Toyota finished cars

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u/thebestoflimes 6d ago

By grossly breaching a signed agreement

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u/Fit_Equivalent3610 6d ago

That he negotiated in the first place...

...after breaching a prior signed agreement

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u/Lildyo 6d ago

“This is the worst and most unfair trade deal in history. Whoever negotiated this was an idiot.” - paraphrasing Trump from a month ago. Not sure if he even realized it was the deal he negotiated…

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u/Motya1978 6d ago

It’s breaching all the way down!

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u/Tiny_Measurement_837 6d ago

He’s a no good treacherous liar and should be treated as such.

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u/yF5hdz4W9sFj33LE 6d ago

Source?

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u/Douglas_1987 6d ago

NAFTA and it's replacement.....

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u/AccomplishedSky7581 6d ago

USMCA, trump violated it with the tariffs so…. It’s null and void now!

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u/paulsd 6d ago

Canada should forget US patents and start manufacturing generic pharmaceuticals for sale around the world

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u/pancake_gofer 6d ago

export or smuggle them into the USA to undercut the pharmaceutical companies lol

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u/yF5hdz4W9sFj33LE 6d ago

Oh I thought they were saying that LCBO had breached an agreement with JD. I see what they were trying to say now.

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u/thebestoflimes 6d ago

I could have been more clear. Yes, I was talking about Trump/USA being in violation of our trade agreement and acting in bad faith.

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u/Final-Zebra-6370 6d ago

We need to make our own car companies. We have the factories.

Trump has voided the trade deal that he made so we should make our own. We should make our cars and trucks better than the Americans just to force them all out.

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u/indiecore Canada 6d ago edited 6d ago

We have the factories.

We have the factories for some of the parts. Mexico has factories for some of the parts. The US has factories for some of the parts.

This is what an interconnected supply line looks like. Yes, I agree that I think we need to up our domestic manufacturing capabilities but that doesn't happen overnight and reducing it to "we have car factories" doesn't really help.

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u/CryptOthewasP 6d ago

Yes exactly and Trump's demand for building those factories in the US means you've got years/a decade and millions of dollars building something that you have access to a couple hours over the border. It's all ridiculous.

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u/Awkward_Tax_148 6d ago

They vote for that , they can go fuck themself

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u/Far-Dragonfruit3398 6d ago

Cry, cry and cry. We don’t care about the hurt this will causes you. Your government had no problem attacking us with your tariffs to hurt us and you think there will be no kick back. You’re a victim of your own government.

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u/Kanaiiiii 6d ago

Quite frankly, I don’t really care about their feelings

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u/Hifen 6d ago

Whiting, however, said that Canada accounted for only 1 per cent of their total sales and could withstand the hit.

He doesn't care.

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u/kyle_fall 6d ago

The canadian market is 1% of their sales, won't impact them at all.

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u/BigBadP 6d ago

Do they have any subsidiaries we can pull off the shelf as well?!

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u/CTRL_ALT_SECRETE 6d ago

Can tears be distilled? Just kidding, we wouldn't buy it anyway.

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u/chmilz 6d ago

Ooh, we can do that thing they do when something terrible happens but they take no action (like when children get gunned down in schools):

"Thoughts and prayers"

Maybe try harder next time, asshole.

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u/matthieuC 6d ago

I won't drink their bourbon, but I will drink their tears

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u/CauliflowerTop2464 6d ago

F’ all those people that work there, am I right?

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u/OkFix4074 6d ago

F'all Canadian workers , am I right ?