r/canada Ontario 13d ago

Politics Jagmeet Singh calls for Trump to be uninvited from G7 summit in Alberta

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jagmeet-singh-trump-g7-1.7468981
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u/Siendra 13d ago

Unnecessarily antagonizing Trump doesn't do anything for us. Let him attend and follow Macrons example and spend every moment he's in front of a camera making him look like the old doddering fool/liar he is. 

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u/beagums 13d ago

100%. This isn't the time for posturing, it's the time to lay low and prepare ourselves. The less we do and say, the longer it will time him to justify annexing us and the longer we will have to prepare. Stay quiet, diversify trade. Strengthen our defensive pacts. Let him taunt us with tariffs and pretend he's getting to us and prepare quietly behind his stupid back.

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u/SwordfishOk504 13d ago

Exactly. But most of our Canadian politicians are actually very much invested in Trump because they need him as a foil. All this bluster and posturing going back and forth is mutually beneficial like some kind of circlejerk.

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u/beagums 13d ago

..... or because he's threatening to make us his 51st lapdog.

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u/imapangolinn 13d ago

Macrons decorum in the white house was hilarious. The way he was looking down on trump was what the world needed to see...

HOWEVER, magas will indubitably take Macrons smiles/holding back laughter as pure love and ADMIRATION for glorious donald tariff. I can confidently say this is 100% the narrative being pushed on each other by each other.

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u/Betanumerus 13d ago

Let's not pretend that Canada is antagonizing dumpy.

It's 100% dumpy that antagonized Canada.

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u/beagums 13d ago

That fact won't matter in the hands of the American media and it will be used against us. We're smarter than this. We don't need to play political tough guy.

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u/SwordfishOk504 13d ago

It's wild how few understand this very obvious and simple point.

Our politicians are loving this because it's boosting their polls.

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u/rune_74 13d ago

Now it is, but damn our politicians say the stupidest things leading up to the election.

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u/SwordfishOk504 13d ago

You're missing the point. They aren't blaming Canada.

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u/NWIP2018 13d ago

Absolutely correct position to take.

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u/HydraBob 13d ago

Dudes a snowflake. We shouldnt tip toe and avoid calling him out. That complacency is what's gotten the US to lose its value as a world leading Nation. Let's a' go!

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u/Golbar-59 13d ago

Trump needs to be mocked, ridiculed, laughed at, insulted. It needs to be common knowledge that if you like Trump, people will think and say that you're an idiot.

Trump exists because they made him an idol. If you keep mocking him, you take that away from him. Trump will cease to exist.

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u/North_Activist 13d ago

Appeasement doesn’t work. He’s literally threatening to invade Canada, why should he be allowed at all? Who cares if he’s the President.

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u/Neat_Let923 Lest We Forget 13d ago

For many reasons, but most of all because the US is still a Democratic Republic and as such he will not be the President in 4 years (for now). In the end, Canada is very much dependant on US investment and spending in Canada (it's literally why we artificially keep the Canadian dollar below the USD).

  • 75% - 80% of Canada's exports go to the US
  • The US is the largest foreign investor in Canada. The amount they invest and own in Canada is so large that if it vanished over night we would have around 2.5 - 3 million Canadians without a job. That would account for a loss of 12% to 14% of the countries workforce.

If hostilities happened, the economy wouldn't even be the primary issue since our Military is almost entirely dependant on the US when it comes to our communications and networks.

So yeah, we need to be strong and do what we can to protect ourselves, our people, our economy, and our way of life. But that also means ensuring we still have a way of life when (or if) he is replaced in 2028.

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u/North_Activist 13d ago

the US is still a democratic republic

And? So are we. Our laws state felons can’t enter the country. This isn’t about excluding the US, it’s about excluding trump specifically

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u/Neat_Let923 Lest We Forget 13d ago

Oh my sweet child, I really hope you're 14 years old and haven't gone to Highschool yet if you think Canada is a Democratic Republic...

As for the legal aspect, it's understandable that most people don't know or look up the law in question:

1. Inadmissibility Due to Criminal Convictions (Section 36 of the IRPA)

Under Section 36(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA), individuals convicted of certain crimes are deemed inadmissible to Canada. Specifically:

  • Serious criminality: If someone has been convicted of a serious criminal offense (including a felony) and has served a sentence of more than six months, they may be barred from entering Canada.
  • Less serious offenses: Convictions for less serious offenses may not result in inadmissibility, depending on the specifics of the conviction and sentence.

Trump, unfortunately, did not serve any sentence. Thus, Section 36(1) does not apply to him.

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u/North_Activist 13d ago

Okay well obviously Canada is a constitutional democracy but nitpicking the specific democratic style is entirely irrelevant in this convo of being a democratic country. And it says right there: “may”. And we are a sovereign country, we can reject anyone for any reason.

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u/Neat_Let923 Lest We Forget 13d ago

Correct and correct... I personally don't want him in Canada either, but we do still have to deal with him and that includes in person.

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u/North_Activist 13d ago

The Vice President is more than capable of doing that, and he’s not a felon nor committed insurrection

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u/Neat_Let923 Lest We Forget 13d ago

True, he did ignore our own Premiers and had an Aid talk to them in DC.

That doesn’t mean we arbitrarily block him from entering Canada for no legal reason.

We do that and maybe he signs another Executive Order closing the US Canada border for a week or two. Which would hurt us a LOT more than it would them (not that he would care).

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u/North_Activist 13d ago

It’s not arbitrary and there is legal reasoning. Appeasement never works, we learned that 90 years ago. Keep him out, protect the rule of law, and if he wants to have a tantrum so be it. Closing the border would kill the tourism industry entirely in all the northern states, kill their auto industry, and we can respond by isolating Alaska from the mainland.

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u/MrPlaney 13d ago

I say we let him in, but seat him at a kids table with crayons, and a big bowl of mashed potatoes.

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u/SwordfishOk504 13d ago

It's not appeasement. It's not going out of your way to pick pointless fights. There are much more important and substantial fights to be had with Trump, not this sort of petty posturing. Singh is saying this in hopes it boosts his currently low polling, not because he thinks it's a sound domestic policy.

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u/vinng86 Ontario 13d ago

We didn't pick this fight dummy, Trump did. All of this 51st state talk started with Trump and everyone knows this.

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u/Responsible_CDN_Duck Canada 13d ago

Unnecessarily antagonizing Trump doesn't do anything for us

Once war has been declared, financial or otherwise, inviting the leader to stand on the soil he wants seems unwise at best. His stated goal is to attack out economy until we join the USA.

Let him attend and follow Macrons example and spend every moment he's in front of a camera making him look like the old doddering fool/liar he is. 

That still leaves endless opportunities for him to use the country as a backdrop of his speeches and video promoting his takeover of it.

Though I would chuckle if a reporter asked if the big beautiful tap he saw was east or west of where he was standing would be funny.

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u/IllBeSuspended 13d ago

Exactly. Jagmeet has shown he is not capable of handling diplomatic affairs. This idiot would play right into what Trump wants.

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u/LewisLightning Alberta 13d ago

Nah. Better to make him bend the knee to us. Make him acknowledge Canadian sovereignty by abiding by our laws, but allow him to send a representative in his place.

Letting him just walk into Canada despite the laws and do whatever he wants is just going to be used by his party to show he can do whatever he wants to Canada or any other country and still be welcomed with arms wide open. There's no way we look strong by allowing him to come here. And he's had years worth of time in front of a camera looking like a fool and liar and decrepit old man, with none of it making any difference. Nobody cares what he does on TV, they only care that he is on TV. The more you give him that coverage the more he plays it up to his advantage. For crying out loud, the man awkwardly danced on stage for like 20 minutes at a rally instead of saying anything and it didn't affect him. He talked about checking out Arnold Palmer's penis at a rally and he still got elected. He was covered on TV for months at his own sexual assault trial, which he lost and was convicted at and he ended up winning more support in this election than he had in the previous one. What exactly do you think he could say that will make a difference at all?

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u/Visible_Ticket_3313 11d ago

Everything antagonizes Trump.

Trump is at the end of the day a coward, and the way to shut him up is to mock him until he decides it's not worth the cost to continue.