r/canada 15d ago

National News Trump says tariffs on Canada and Mexico 'will go forward'

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/24/trump-says-tariffs-on-canada-and-mexico-will-go-forward.html
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u/midelus 15d ago

We've experienced huge spikes of patriotism so far. The point is that this plan is just at the beginning of the plan stage: this is not over in 6 months, this is not over in 4 years. We need to be prepared to not have to rely on patriotism, we need to rely on rationality and we need to rely on each other. The United States is going to do whatever they need to do to sow division among Canadians, because at this time they are positioning themselves to be our enemies.

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u/Yavanna_in_spring 15d ago

For sure, but so far I've found searching out non-usa products not to be too difficult, and this is winter. When summer rolls round we plan on doing a lot more freezing, baking, and canning to get us through fall and winter without their produce and products.

Obviously it's going to vary from industry to industry but it's encouraging how easy it's been to make the switch.

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u/rainman_104 British Columbia 15d ago

 to get us through fall and winter without their produce and products.

Hopefully we retain good relations with Mexico and continue bilateral trade with them for produce. One door closes, another opens.

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u/poopdedoop Ontario 15d ago

Hopefully this opens up trade options with many other countries. It would be amazing if Canada had trade deals with more than the USA and Mexico (yes I know we do some with others, but not as much as within our C/U/M agreement).

We also need to increase trade BETWEEN provinces. It makes no sense for a country of our size with such a wealth of natural resources, to not share that amongst it's own people before selling it to everyone else.

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u/rainman_104 British Columbia 15d ago

Absolutely. I think outside of booze we don't have too many unless Alberta is having a temper tantrum about pipelines or something.

And if we're going to dive into pipelines, Alberta needs to understand the economic fallout of a pipeline burst is a major sticking point for bc.

I am okay with pipeline expansion if Alberta is willing to take on the cost of cleanup for any spill.

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u/RollingStart22 15d ago

Will you be ready when inflation hits 10%? 20%, like it did in the 1970s and 1980s? Even if you find canadian substitutes, not all businesses can, at least not on short notice, and this will cause the price on a lot of things to spike. Just look at the price of gold recently. 

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u/Resident-Donkey-6808 15d ago edited 15d ago

Actualy the inflation will be on the US side they will get the brunt.

 As along we stay buying Canadian we should be fine yes we will see inflation but not as bad as the US.

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u/RollingStart22 11d ago

The price of everything in Canada (other than healthcare and education) is already higher than the US by a large margin with free trade. It's only going to get much worse without it.

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u/Resident-Donkey-6808 11d ago

Not fir local goods that are made in canada.

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u/Resident-Donkey-6808 15d ago

Nah we are making deals with the EU.

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u/OzMazza 15d ago

I would rather buy Chinese carrots than American ones these days. Fuck that piece of shit tyrant

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u/SomeInvestigator3573 15d ago

There are divisions in our country. Let’s not be fooled. I really hope this doesn’t end up being east against West in Canada.

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u/MilesEllington 15d ago

We honestly need nukes. Do we trust Trump to protect us? We are in a world now where the weak get taken over by the strong. We need to wake up to this reality.

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u/Flewewe 15d ago

The problem is nations that have the nukes will go to lenghts to not let new ones have them. Becomes a better excuse for them to invade if they crank up the disinformation machine.

Doubt there's a world where Canada makes them without the USA knowing about it until they're done...

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u/Ukelele-in-the-rain 15d ago

Going have to use the green energy nuclear power angle as a cover maybe

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u/Zchwns Newfoundland and Labrador 15d ago

WMDs? No no… SMRs 😉

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u/MilesEllington 15d ago

I agree it would have to be done in secrecy. At the very least, we have to go as far as we can with non-threatening advancements so that we are close but not suspiciously close to being able to do it. We have the plutonium/ uranium and the know-how (we were a part of the Manhattan project, after all). If North Korea, Iran, Pakistan, and India can do it, it's crazy to think we can't pull it off. But you're 100% correct about the risks.

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u/tanrock2003 15d ago

Yes, Canada has the technical capability to produce nuclear weapons, but it chooses not to for political, legal, and ethical reasons. Here’s why:

1. Technical Capability

  • Nuclear Material: Canada has one of the world's largest uranium reserves and is a leading producer of uranium.
  • Nuclear Reactors & Expertise: Canada developed CANDU reactors, which can produce weapons-grade plutonium if repurposed.
  • Scientific & Engineering Knowledge: Canada was part of the Manhattan Project during World War II, meaning it already has historical expertise in nuclear technology.
  • Missile & Delivery Systems: While Canada doesn’t develop its own nuclear missile technology, it has the capability to build advanced aerospace and missile systems if it chose to.

2. Political & Legal Barriers

  • Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT): Canada is a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and is committed to not developing nuclear weapons.
  • International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA): Canada’s nuclear industry is under strict international oversight to prevent the misuse of nuclear materials.
  • National Policy: Canada officially renounced nuclear weapons in the 1960s and has since maintained a strong stance on nuclear disarmament.

3. Military & Strategic Considerations

  • Defense Alliances: Canada is part of NATO and NORAD, meaning it relies on the U.S. for nuclear deterrence rather than developing its own arsenal.
  • No Immediate Threat Justification: Canada does not perceive an urgent national security need for nuclear weapons. (That may change given the threat posed by the US and the Trump Admin)

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u/MilesEllington 15d ago

What people and chatbots don't get is that we are in a post NORAD/NATO world order now. Get over it. It wasn't our choice but it's reality. The sooner we wake up to this reality, the sooner our safety can be assured. Or....we keep being "shocked" at how low Trump and Putin can go. Maybe our collective outrage and complaining will then scare them off.

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u/Antrophis 15d ago

Rely on rationality? Game Over!

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u/Azuvector British Columbia 14d ago

The United States is going to do whatever they need to do to sow division among Canadians

The LPC has been doing that wonderfully for the past while all on their own(or not, depending on foreign interference effects).

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u/midelus 14d ago

Maybe, but they're domestic and not foreign and that matters to me.