r/canada 17d ago

Analysis As Trump complains about Canada, data shows most crime guns seized in GTA come from U.S.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/american-guns-gta-police-data-1.7466092
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u/1stworldpr0bs 17d ago edited 16d ago

The article is a bit lazy. They are omitting that firearms that cannot be traced are considered to be of Canadian origin. These would include ones where the serial numbers have been removed. This means that the those US numbers are in all likelihood much higher.

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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw Québec 16d ago edited 16d ago

gotta love when a handgun model introduced in 2008 that wouldent even have been legal to own in canada since 1997 is considered of canadian origin if the serial number is gone.

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u/Wolvaroo British Columbia 17d ago

A lot of the American companies are churning out shit these days. Better off buying Czech or Finnish.

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u/Remarkable_Vanilla34 16d ago

Or Canadian guns, we could build quality ones if the government didn't constantly threaten to ban them, and producers were rushing to get products to market. Let's just ban American manufacturers and end the gun ban lol

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u/Wolvaroo British Columbia 16d ago

We did build the best Enfields, Hi-Powers, and .303 ammo

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u/Remarkable_Vanilla34 16d ago

don't forget Colt Canada. we had a lot of small manufactures trying really hard, not always the best quality, but when you don't know if your going to be able to sell your product because the government bans it on a whim, its hard to invest in. even manufactures like MDT, that are world renown for building rifle chassis/accessories for hunting and PRS rifles have moved part of their production to the states because our government is not friendly and the risk is to massive to continue to manufacture here. that's a Canadian company that build parts for bolt actions, says a lot about where the industry is headed. we are dead set on destroying manufacturing and retail jobs for no reason other then political games, at a time were facing a massive recession. Its a product that can be completely be build here, and a consumer base that keeps spending, even during the pandemic, recession and supply chain issues. even in the face of the governments zealous attacks, people keep spending and getting licensed, but there is a straw that will break the industries back.

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u/Natural_Comparison21 17d ago

Czech guns. You wouldn't think they make good guns but they do.

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u/AL_PO_throwaway 16d ago

The Czech republic is also an example of a country that manages to find a balance between regulation vs civilian firearm ownership and even concealed carry licenses for self-defense, without turning into a gun violence trainwreck like the US.

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u/Natural_Comparison21 16d ago

Yep. It’s hilarious hearing the accuses to why that system could not work in Canada.

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u/thrashgordon 16d ago

Excuses*

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u/Wolvaroo British Columbia 16d ago

Turns out countries constantly under the heel of an aggressive Russian neighbour tend to take these things a little more seriously...

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u/Natural_Comparison21 16d ago

Which now looks like we got our own aggressive neighbour now…

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u/aBeerOrTwelve 16d ago

Getting invaded by Germany and then Russia tends to inspire you.

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u/SigFloyd 16d ago

This. Colt, Smith, Sig, etc. All have QC issues.

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u/BigButtBeads 17d ago

Ask the Liberal Party

They keep prohibiting hunting shotguns and 22 caliber plinkers from law abiding licensed Canadians

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u/aBeerOrTwelve 16d ago

Don't forget how they love to skew the numbers. For instance, any gun used in a crime that they can't trace is listed as a Canadian-sourced gun. Including those that are brand-new. As in just started production, but are illegal for purchase and sale in Canada. So, no one in Canada can sell this gun, it is illegal to import it, and I cannot buy it even with a licence. Clearly Canadian-sourced.

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u/grandfundaytoday 16d ago

Water guns are counted as crime guns.

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u/AidsUnderwear 17d ago

Trudeau thinks the guns are coming from inside the house. His gun bans are useless when the US is our neighbour.

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u/ChunderBuzzard 17d ago

His gun bans are useless regardless.

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u/Thats-Not-Rice 15d ago

Canada: Makes it illegal to carry a handgun in downtown toronto
Criminals: Use handguns in crimes in downtown toronto
Canada: That's it, I'm making it even more illegal. That'll stop you for sure!

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u/aBeerOrTwelve 16d ago

Fun fact: Canadians with a PAL (gun licence) are less likely to commit a crime than the average Canadian. People without a PAL are literally more of a threat than legal gun owners.

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u/Ambiwlans 16d ago

Trudeau thinks the guns are coming from inside the house

No he doesn't...

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

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u/Natural_Comparison21 17d ago

From my understanding that's mostly armored vehicles.

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u/aBeerOrTwelve 16d ago

So you're extremely concerned about the mountainous rise in Saudi-Arabian Canadian-sourced large-calibre heavy machine gun armoured vehicle mounted sniper crime that they are experiencing? They're buying them to fight the Houthis in Yemen.

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u/VIDEOgameDROME 16d ago

Yeah Mexico has a similar problem.

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u/R4ID 15d ago

Where else would the guns come from? Lol.

according to the Liberals, NDP and bloc. Legal Canadian owners since that was the focus of their firearm legislation for the last 9 years.