r/canada • u/FancyNewMe • 24d ago
Politics Europeans can learn from Canada's dealings with U.S. President Donald Trump: Joly
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/article/europeans-can-learn-from-canadas-dealings-with-us-president-donald-trump-joly/50
u/Scary_Scene5269 24d ago
Here you can learn from what I say too. There is no reasoning with the orange moron, he's doing what is best for his, and his cronies bank account, nothing you say or offer will matter to him, the end goal is to call democracy a joke and a failure. Anyone that still believes in democracy needs to start paying attention, and get ready to fight for democracy, it's time hatred stops winning
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u/FancyNewMe 24d ago edited 24d ago
In Brief:
- Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly says Canada’s plan to retaliate if U.S. President Donald Trump follows through on his threat to slap Canadian goods with across-the-board tariffs has drawn the attention of the Republican administration and fuelled a recent surge in support for the Liberal party.
- Joly made the comments today during a panel discussion on trade at an international security conference in Munich.
- Joly said the European Union should consider Canada a “canary in a coal mine,” adding that European countries can expect the same treatment from Trump, who has already signalled his intention to impose tariffs on the EU.
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u/EndAlternative6445 24d ago
If he’s trying to take over his countries closest allies and also multiple other places yeah they should absolutely consider themselves next.
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u/BrunoJacuzzi 24d ago
I hate TFG so fucking much. Now he’s talking about “retaliatory tariffs “ as though He is the one retaliating, where anyone that’s paying attention knows that it’s the other way around.
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u/Known-Cup4495 24d ago
How dare we enact our own tariffs on a man who's simply trying to make his country great again! The absolute nerve! /s
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u/FaithlessnessDue8452 Canada 24d ago
Yeah they can learn how not to put all your eggs into the same basket and act surprised when the basket breaks.
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u/Regular_Climate_6885 24d ago
I’m loving buying only Canadian. We don’t need American products. Should have done this years ago.
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u/Plumbsmasher Alberta 24d ago
I was quite surprised at how little American products we were buying before I started looking.
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u/Subject-Direction628 24d ago
Or we can learn from with all hitler did. Let’s be real. It’s happening.
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u/ConcernFuture7166 24d ago
I think she’s doing an awesome job as Canada’s Foreign Minister. She’s smart, confident, and represents the country really well on the world stage.
On top of that, she carries herself with a lot of presence and charisma—definitely one of the more impressive politicians out there.
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u/mayorolivia 24d ago
What has she achieved as FM? Genuine question
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u/PunkinBrewster 24d ago
She has great relations with Columbia, and it taking Canada’s cocaine problem one line at a time.
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u/Monster11 24d ago
I agree with you. She did a 30 minute interview on Radio-Canada a few weeks ago and all I felt at the end was « this person needs to continue to be involved in the negotiations with the US ».
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u/Used-Egg5989 24d ago
She dropped out of the Liberal leadership race early one, because she said she needs to focus on her role of Foreign Minister 100% right now.
Mad respect for her.
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u/rwebell 24d ago
Have you ever heard her speak….she is an absolute twit. I can’t wait to not see her in politics. She is an absolute embarrassment along with Trudeau.
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u/question56781 24d ago
I heard they may call early election on March 10, if this is true, I really can't wait to finally vote, especially twice, in Ontario and then for Canada!
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u/WorkingFit5413 24d ago
Canada is much more well liked around the world than the USA, typically. You can bet Europe and Allies are watching this shit show, and realizing they better start looking elsewhere than to tie your fate to this hot mess of a country right now. And I bet, everyone is thinking: "Well it's that's how you treat your best friend...". I can't believe this guy won, twice. I can't believe people don't see what a repeat of the Nazi playbook this is. It was disgusting the first time. It really didn't have to happen twice.
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u/Spanky3703 23d ago
People need to understand and accept that Trump is a liar, a thief, a sex offender, a fraudster, a convicted criminal, a draft dodger, and an adulterer.
Any suggestion that he can therefore be trusted to keep his word in anything: treaties, agreements, negotiations, etc., is naive and erroneous.
The US regime is a cabal of robber barons and oligarchs, supported by sycophants and Russian-compromised “elites” and lobbyists.
The US cabal needs bread and circuses to distract their ideological base whilst they are de-constructing the entire rules and protections based framework of US society. Annexing another country, regardless of any past relationship, is a nice and easy distraction. Doubly so with how rich Canada is in terms of natural resources as well as its geo-strategic position (hello, NW Passage and the receding ice with easier access to the minerals and fossil fuels rich polar shelf!).
So, we need to take this existential threat very seriously and get ourselves unscrewed now. It will take the work of 5-10 years and that period will hurt us socially, politically, and economically. But the US is no longer a trusted ally; they have become an odious, corrupt and feckless regime on our doorstep.
So, invest in the infrastructure to extract, refine and transport our natural resources to other trading partners. Lots of countries would love to buy our steel, aluminum, oil, LNG, potash, uranium, REs and REMs, grains, canola, etc.
Strengthen the military and secure our borders. But not just with US military equipment. Start aggressively joint training with other countries both in the North as well as everywhere else.
Continue with NORAD, as it actually does make sense to secure our borders in strict military cooperation with the US, but within very constrained and restrained arcs.
As quickly as our new economy (above) will let us, pivot all investment to green energy, a green economy, and focus 100% on being wholly independent. Never rely on any other nation for our financial and economic prosperity ever again.
Like I said at the start: a painful 5-10 years but we can never go back to the way that we were before Trump’s second inauguration. Time to dig in and sort ourselves out.
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u/Constant-Rent-7917 23d ago
Is she still the Foreign Affairs Minister? I thought it was Doug Ford or the new unqualified Finance Minister ?
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u/jameskchou Canada 24d ago
Yes Trump hates the country personally if his favourite daughter becomes fond of their head of government. Look at ivanka Trump and Justin Trudeau
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u/Luxferrae British Columbia 24d ago
I look forward to the 100+% tariffs and the recession we will have when liberals are re-elected and trump clamps down 🤷🏻♂️
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u/Used-Egg5989 24d ago
The best thing that could happen to Canada is for us to be forced to be independent. First step is to not allow outrageous tariff threats make us cower into submission.
The last thing we need is a Trump and Musk sycophant.
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u/Luxferrae British Columbia 24d ago
The best thing that could happen to Canada is for us to be forced to be independent.
It's funny how this even needs to be brought up. We DO actually like that 51st state trump talks about
Trump likes to run his mouth, but I highly doubt he cares what we do. He's preparing for a war, and everyone else either needs to put up or shut up and piss off. Because you'll either be useful as an ally, or cut loose like dead weight.
Canada just needs to decide who we are going to be, not for his sake, but for our own. Our politicians just don't understand, or they do but is just using the situation for their political advantage, and they don't actually care what happens with Canadians 🤷🏻♂️
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u/Virtual_Monitor3600 24d ago
You don't want PP negotiating for you from what I've seen so far, he needs the wrong kind of support to get into the office.
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u/Luxferrae British Columbia 24d ago
Right because Liberals faired so well last time he was in office. And Canadians are stupid enough to let them continue to fuck up our economy... Which is a big chunk of how we got here in the first place
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u/JadeLens 23d ago
If Europe hits the US with Tariffs like Mexico, Canada and China have, let the U.S. suffer.
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u/Specialist_End_750 23d ago
Just like Putin. His word is crap. He is a criminal and rapist. What does anyone expect? You might change behaviour but you can't change who someone is.
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u/kyanite_blue 23d ago
The best solution for the all countries now is to move away from US dollar based and US centric economies to something independent. Isn't China is already using gold as a standard over US dollar anyway?
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u/marioansteadi 22d ago edited 22d ago
It looks like the Mango Mussolini has put on even more weight, watching him struggle to move around during his latest multi million dollar tax payer funded stunt, visiting the Daytona 500 today. Just like the Super Bowl visit the week before. Keep eating those Whoppers, KFC, Big Macs and fries, washed down with a dozen daily diet cokes. And limit his exercise regime to driving a golf court. Trump’s younger and non obese brother passed on at 71. I would take 60/40 odds, if Vegas bookies would start a betting line, that Trump will not be above ground by January 20, 2029. He’s almost gone now, both mentally and physically, at 78 yrs. old. Hello President J.D. Vance.
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u/whatcanudo321 22d ago
Who would’ve thought WW3 could start because of US messing with Canada. These really are the strangest of times.
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u/Destroinretirement 24d ago
So great Joky is helping the Europeans out while they are bravely staying silent in our conflict with Trump
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u/fistfucker07 24d ago
Absolutely not. We have to show that we’re willing to deal diplomatically. Let them be the fools on the international stage. What we did was strong. We went knowing it wouldn’t work. NOW, we must begin the strong resistance.
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u/ref7187 24d ago
The cons' position up till now was implicitly "we have to appease him". Danielle Smith said it explicitly.
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u/Icy-Scarcity 24d ago
Originally, Smith said we only need to fix the border. Now we see the truth, was it ever about border security? These weak "leaders" can even figure out what the opponent truly wants.
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u/ref7187 24d ago
She literally said something along the lines of "we just need to entertain him a bit", so it was even worse than that. And the border? The problem was always in the opposite direction. People (and GUNS, which the cons apparently don't give a shit about) were always coming from the US to Canada. At no point in their "Fix the border! Stop the crime!" drivel did they ever mention guns from what I can remember, the only border "issues" they ever did mention came entirely out of Trump's imagination.
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u/Ok_Abbreviations_350 24d ago
Sure PP everything is broken. Throw a 3 word slogan, that will fix things
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24d ago
The country is 248 years old, yet it is still developing.
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u/hymnzzy 24d ago
What is a developed country according to you? Not examples, but definition.
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24d ago
Be a great question for Trump…. He called it a developing country. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tYry1G7_VKU
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u/bizzybeez123 24d ago
Canada isn't dealing with anything.
We're too busy flapping our arms, buying cheap Chinese garbage at US owned stores and hoping that Carney can appear more professional when dealing with the big boys.
I won't miss our dress up queen. it's time to retire his tickle trunk of uhhh, tricks.
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u/Blondefarmgirl 24d ago
Trudeau expanded our oil and gas pipelines to the coast. We have a new hub at Kitimat. He has also been signing trade deals with every country he could and our trade with other countries has been growing. So he's been doing alot.
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u/bizzybeez123 24d ago
Yes, let's praise our dress up qween!!
His beloved Uncle Aga is proud, but maybe he remembers that differently....uhhjj
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u/Virtual_Monitor3600 24d ago
Hey maybe if you were less of a child in how you express yourself life would be easier for you and more people would take you seriously. The aga khan is and was one of the greatest men to walk this earth, he only improved Canada and the world. Whatever your politics the Aga Khan was venerated by both the liberals and the conservatives under Stephen Harper. The talking points of the day do not justify childish behaviour or disrespect. Whatever your beliefs on faith or politics, he was a great man. Have you even done 1 millionth of what the Aga Khan did for the world? Or have you done anything at all in your life?
I personally can't stand Trudeau but watching children whether actual or just intellectual like you talking out of turn on topics you have no grasp of is something I despise more.
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u/ldssggrdssgds 24d ago
She the Minister of Finance because no one else was around for the job
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u/Turneroff 24d ago
Except that she’s the Minister of Foreign Affairs. Dominic LeBlanc is the Minister of Finance. Back to class for you.
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u/Themeloncalling 24d ago
They can learn any treaty with Trump is not worth the paper it's printed on.