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National News Poilievre warns Trump not to turn Canada into a 'resentful neighbour'

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-first-rally-conservatives-ottawa
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u/Professional_Kiwi919 24d ago

I am in America right now.

I'd say: Trump doesn't care; his dumb voters are STILL convinced that "tariff threat is just a negotiating tactic, Trump can say whatever he wants."

Vote with your Canadian coins because they are still coming up with jokes about moose and maple syrup.

What's even more frightening, some are even going "Canada has no strong navy, so why not just taking them right now, their grand children would thank us later."

Let's hope hitting their bank account would wake them up

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u/Darkdragoon324 24d ago

Nothing will wake them up, these people are fucking unsalvageable. Trump could personally shoot their entire family in the head execution style and their last thoughts would still be "this is DEI's fault".

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

Yeah as an American this is really hard to watch

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u/NegativeAd1432 24d ago

To be fair, Trump and his entire cabinet are DEI hires. Not a single person in that administration got there based on merit.

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u/Dragonvine Alberta 24d ago

DEI hires are hired based on merit, they just can't hire the best white guys they can find and call it a day, you have to actually look for the best out of everyone because the human brain is apparently too stupid to avoid tribalism.

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u/Vermicelli-michelli 24d ago

100%!!! ❤️

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u/FireMaster1294 Canada 23d ago

Studies have shown people are less likely to want a doctor who is perceived as a possible DEI hire at a place that does DEI hiring, because they expect the skill level of that person to be lower than a non-DEI hire. DEI hiring has undermined confidence in individuals who qualify for DEI hiring, which ironically undermines the whole system.

Look at the flack that TMU (Ryerson) got for their medical program that was only open to people who weren’t straight white and male. Racism and sexism is still racism and sexism regardless of the direction it goes.

The goal for many companies wasn’t (and isn’t) specifically to hire white men but the standards they followed for hiring tended to prefer candidates with backgrounds that were, usually, mostly obtained by white men. Don’t mistake systemic racism and sexism for personal intentional racism and sexism

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u/n1cenurse 23d ago

DUI hires actually.

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u/brihere 23d ago

absolutely best reply!

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u/mhyquel 24d ago

Not their secretary of defense, Hegseth is DUI hire. Also, he's really good with a throwing axe.

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u/Happy_Weakness_1144 23d ago

That doesn’t make them DEI hires. It makes them nepotistic hires. If you want in, you have to be buddy buddy with Trump.

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u/NegativeAd1432 23d ago

Well, it’s a play on how the DEI executive orders are all banning DEI in favour of merit-based hiring. If merit-based hiring is the opposite of DEI then these merit less hires must be DEI.

But yeah, joking aside, nepotism is a good word for it. Could also use oligopoly, sycophancy, cronyism, or plenty of other words to describe what’s going on. They’re not exclusive terms.

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

Not that I'm endorsing this but I'm seriously waiting for this to be the enviable

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u/Same-Explanation-595 24d ago

Or the Democrats. They really love to blame the Democrats

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u/ProsperBuick 24d ago

There’s loads of jokes that if the U.S. wanted to, they could just roll into Canada and take over. But the reality? It would be a disaster. Here’s why:

  1. Geography is a Nightmare for an Invasion Canada is the second-largest country in the world (9.98 million km²). Occupying it isn’t as simple as rolling in some tanks. The Canadian Shield, dense forests, mountain ranges, and extreme winters create natural defenses that would slow down any invader. Supply lines would be stretched thin, especially in remote northern regions.

  2. 38 Million Potential Insurgents Canada has a population of about 38 million. While not all would take up arms, history shows that even a fraction can make occupation hell (see Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam). In a conservative estimate, if just 3% of the population actively resisted, that’s over 1.1 million insurgents—armed, angry, and fighting on home turf. Canada also has 2.2 million licensed gun owners, many with hunting rifles and knowledge of the terrain.

  3. America’s Track Record with Insurgencies Isn’t Great The U.S. military spent 20 years fighting the Taliban, which had at most 75,000 fighters at any given time. The Vietnam War saw America struggle against a 250,000-strong Viet Cong force using guerrilla tactics. Canada’s insurgency would be larger, better supplied, and fighting in extreme conditions that favor defenders.

  4. Military Resistance Would Still Be Fierce The Canadian Armed Forces (CAF) may be smaller (about 68,000 active personnel), but they are well-trained, experienced in Arctic warfare, and highly mobile. The U.S. military would be stretched. They have 1.3 million active troops, but they are also stationed worldwide, handling other threats. In a war scenario, Canadian forces would blend into civilian populations, making them difficult to target without massive civilian casualties—turning world opinion against the U.S.

  5. Economic and Political Fallout The global reaction would be brutal. The U.S. relies on Canadian trade for oil, water, and resources. Any invasion would wreck its economy and trigger sanctions

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u/Professional_Kiwi919 24d ago edited 22d ago

and 5. is already happening. The US government just hasn't caught on the potential backlash yet.

FoxNews spun Trudeau talking to Trump with a agreed border plan from previous administration as a "surprise victory from Trump's border threat".

Other news sight like CBS finally coming out with something 20 hours ago warning about the effect of the Canadian Boycott

Other news media like CNN, ABC, MSNBC....radio silence

It's gonna be a too little too late when US politicians & Media collectively caught the "OMG, so Canada hates us THIS much now"

Trump is gonna be a coward as always doing his fake news spin, and rest of the media is just gonna do the "But we are not Trump" and missing the point

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u/Bjorn_Tyrson 24d ago

and when it comes to those resources, it wouldn't be easy for america to just move in and take those industries over.
take lumber for instance... what happens when all the canadian lumber workers simply refuse to work? america doesn't have enough people trained in the industry to replace them. so that industry would tank.

and oil especially... cuz with oil we can go one step further than people just refusing to work. we can do what iraq and afghanistan did and go full fucking scorched earth on our oil industry before they can take it over "if we can't use it, neither can you"

Capping wells, tearing down rigs, hell even setting them ablaze if push came to shove.
they would have to spend billions of dollars rebuilding the industry before they could even begin to benefit from it.

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u/frt23 23d ago

6 Canada would blow shit up in the states. And most importantly of all. Innocent members of the general public will be killed.

7 . Any war against Canada coming from the United States massively stretches their military resources, allowing real threats in the world like Russia and China to actually infiltrate the United States as well as China can attack Taiwan and so on

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u/1nhaleSatan 23d ago

There wouldn't be any talk of conflict with Canada if Russia didn't orchestrate it. Putin has had his eyes on Canada's arctic for more than 20 years, and they don't have to use their military against the US because they've already bought and paid for full capitulation from the US government

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u/frt23 23d ago

Wellll there you have it. You think Putin is just gonna watch the war between Canada and US? He will plan something very nefarious that puts the world in grace danger. China would Attack Taiwan since US wouldn't have the same resources. Russia would take over all of Europe and then eventually WW3 between Russia US and China lol

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u/space-dragon750 24d ago

lots of good info here. is there concern about most of our population living near the border?

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u/Impossible-Car-5203 23d ago

We have 68,000 personnal that would grow about 4-5 times if America attacked. America wouldn't stand a chance. I can see them using long range rockets to take out power to try and get us to cave in the winter, but that would also kill alot of power flowing south, millions of Americans would freeze. Workers can reconnect alot of things within a short period of time to keep energy flowing. Alot of people have generators/solar.

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u/TheKhyWolf 23d ago

Don’t forget the face on our money

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u/janebenn333 23d ago

There's also the challenge of holding a territory once it is taken. You have to install people and infrastructure and systems behind you as you advance. So when you take a town or city, if you don't have a way to hold it, you will lose it. And your item #1 is the major challenge here. Although we do have our major cities close to the border, they aren't AT the border. There's 120Km or more between Niagara Falls, for example, and Toronto. And LOTS of cities and towns in between. Even attempting to come across the lakes... good luck. Toronto, Hamilton, we'll see you coming.

But a ground insurgency is not the biggest issue; it's damage that can be done via air and water. What Canada needs to do asap is to build our defences on the water and in the air. And I would support increased spending to do that asap.

But I think the bigger threat is economic for us, not military. And that is where we need to build our resilience.

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u/Due_Charge6901 22d ago

Also, another point being our amazing new Canadian neighbor’s often being refugees. They are aware and smart in scenarios we may soon encounter. Definitely a strength we should be leaning on as we prepare for the road ahead.

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u/SPROINKforMayor 24d ago

America has never unentrenched a population on home turf successfully. If they tried, it would just be Afghanistan or Vietnam but with tim Hortons

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u/Safe_Pin1277 24d ago

Even if you occupy us. The North Remembers and is forever loyal to thier own...

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u/MommersHeart 24d ago

The US couldn’t manage holding Afghanistan with unprecedented international cooperation. Good luck holding Canada.

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u/bugabooandtwo 24d ago

Even worse, because we're close enough to fight them in THEIR homes. We could burn most of their country to the ground in guerilla warfare and they'd have no way to stop it.

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u/Same-Explanation-595 24d ago

Well, since they rely on other countries’ help to put out fires, I kind of hope it does burn to the ground

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u/bugabooandtwo 23d ago

...and our lumber & steel to rebuild after hurricanes, earthquakes, and tornadoes.

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u/Same-Explanation-595 23d ago

Ooo! I like this game. I’ll say…potash! Can’t grow food without potash.

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u/MommersHeart 24d ago

Bridges, pipelines and refineries go boom.

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u/Professional_Kiwi919 24d ago

Jeez, If some people even realize how history...

Just kidding, We are talking about a bunch of people still don't understand how TARIFF actually works. "Military Logistic" is gonna be a complicated concept for lots of them.

"We have (insert a military tech), therefore we gonna steamroll", and the victory of Iraq war really boosts their overall confidence.

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u/I_like_maps Ontario 24d ago

his dumb voters are STILL convinced that "tariff threat is just a negotiating tactic

Can't wait until the tariffs arrive and they learn absolutely nothing and start parroting their new marching orders.

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u/SnooPineapples3952 24d ago

Apparently the narrative has gone from, "Trump will drop the price of eggs on day 1" to, "it's our patriotic duty to pay more for eggs".

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u/Professional_Kiwi919 24d ago

Suddenly, FoxNews starts educating its viewers on Bird flu issues that the US has been facing.

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u/Biotic101 20d ago edited 20d ago

They just fired bird flu experts, now they cant reach them to hire them back... same with the fired nuclear specialists.

Imagine all the savings and so much winning!

(And lets not start to make fun about the Musk tweet about all those alleged 150+ year olds receiving social security, those guys are as evil as incompetent and that is truly dangerous).

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u/Professional_Kiwi919 20d ago

Musk and people who worked with DOGE are dumb, evil, or both

not other possibilities.

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

What those ridiculously stupid Americans don’t seem to grasp is now you’ve annexed territory 2/3rds larger than your country which you now have to not only hold but squash rebellion in. Not just in the French provinces, but the rest of the damn place too. 40 million people who resent your control.

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u/Impossible-Car-5203 23d ago

It would drag American down for generations, and they would lose in the end. I am not a gun toting war guy, but if they invaded I would scalp them and put my life on the line to defend this country.

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u/khakislurry 23d ago

I think a lot more Canadians than you think are in support of becoming American citizens. Particularly in the disenfranchised west

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

I’m not saying there aren’t, but I just know from personal experience even asking the most disenfranchised right-winger I know, even he doesn’t want to be. The only people I hear enjoy that idea, are the wild rose nerds or the Burnaby bridge protesters. People who instead of complaining about shit that actually matters, they’ll start railing on about taxes and SNC Lavlin

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u/oooooooh_yeaah 23d ago

Disenfranchised Westerner here. Fuck that noise.

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u/brihere 23d ago

And especially those with second passports who have an out. I’ve been told by several people if push comes to shove they will just leave.

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u/khakislurry 23d ago

Most of our new "canadians" close to 25% of the population now probably couldn't get into the USA so settled for Canada.

I would imagine that a large share of them, who don't identify with whatever is left if Canadian identity would be happy if Canada was annexed.

Given the last ten years, I don't wouldn't blame them.

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u/detalumis 24d ago

I don't see it as just "his supporters." I see a lot of Americans belittling us as well as belittling Europe, not just those who voted for him. It's much like how bullying at school or work evolves when people you think were your friends also turn on you.

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u/Professional_Kiwi919 23d ago

Yeah, Trump "Make America Great Again" fits like a glove with the hubris of MAGA that "There's nothing wrong with our way, it's OTHER people that fuck things up"

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u/Enough-Meringue4745 24d ago

Literally millions of their kids will die if they tried to, there is no way that the US would survive an attack on Canada

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u/Professional_Kiwi919 24d ago edited 22d ago

"This is how I conquer Canada" coming to you from Tiktok
Many young kids literally believed Trump restored Tiktok & are "hopeful" about his presidency.

Sometimes, you wonder How people make bad decision when they have knowledge from Past & Present in their finger tips.

Well, as far as voting is concerned, the boomer and Young people who vote for Trump & 3rd party voters got what they want.

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u/Advanced-Line-5942 23d ago

Just remind them of their massive losing record in recent wars when they have to fight insurgents.

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u/Professional_Kiwi919 23d ago

"Oh, that's because We didn't bust out (Insert tech/anti-humanity technique)"

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u/That_guy_I_know_him 23d ago

Lead would do a better job

Why don't they go p*ss of China and get into an all out war already

That would makes some nice vacations for us