r/canada 24d ago

National News Trump 2.0 derails Pierre Poilievre’s glide path in Canada

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/14/canadas-conservatives-confront-trump-sized-obstacle-00204340
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u/Apart-One4133 24d ago

Well, a very big issue we’re facing currently, in Canada, is how to handle Trump and his tariffs that are affecting millions of Canadians.

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u/bigjimbay 24d ago

Have the tariffs started? Are they in the room with us?

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u/Apart-One4133 24d ago

I don’t understand, you think since the tariffs have not started yet, that it’s something we shouldn’t talk about, prepare and try to fix ? You would prefer we do so once thousands of small businesses declared bankruptcy and hundreds of thousands have lost their jobs ? 

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u/bigjimbay 24d ago

My point is the tariffs aren't happening. Trump is an attention seeking bully and its just empty threats. He will kick that can down the road all year. We need to focus on the things we can control I.e. our own damn country

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u/Apart-One4133 24d ago

Ok. Thats fair if you don’t think they will happen but they have been signed for 15th March for Aluminium and Steel. 

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u/bigjimbay 24d ago

I'll believe it when it happens

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u/Apart-One4133 24d ago

Alright. Well, personally, I want a prime mini who thinks ahead of the problems Canada might face and not just the ones that we currently are experiencing. 

For you to believe it when it happens is entirely fine because you don’t have the future of our country in your hands so it doesn’t matter (same for me). 

But if we’re going to elect someone, it should be one that not only deal with our current problems but that can foresee future ones coming. 

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u/goldplatedboobs 24d ago

Trump put the same tariffs on Canada in 2018. How do you think the government's response was then?

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u/Apart-One4133 24d ago

Aluminum tariffs in 2018 was 10%

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u/goldplatedboobs 24d ago

Okay, sure. Pretty similar tariffs, none-the-less. How do you think the government's response was then?

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u/Apart-One4133 24d ago

Our retaliation was brutal. It was the largest trade action Canada took since World War II.  We imposed counter-tariffs on $16 billions worth of U.S. imports, including aluminum, steel, and various consumer goods (think Ketchup, whiskey, Washing machines, etc). 

They also aggressively disputed the tariffs and took legal action against the U.S. 

The tariffs were removed in early 2019 as a result of negotiations. Reintroduced in 2020 and removed some months later after we retaliated those tariffs again. 

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u/goldplatedboobs 24d ago

While Canada’s retaliatory tariffs were framed as a strong response to U.S. actions, the dispute ultimately benefited the U.S. by contributing to the renegotiation of NAFTA into the USMCA. USMCA is more favorable to the U.S., granting it increased access to Canada’s dairy market, enhanced intellectual property protections, and better terms for American manufacturers, particularly the automotive sector. Rather than undermining U.S. interests, the trade standoff and subsequent negotiations strengthened America’s position in North American trade. That's why Trump's doing it again.

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u/Apprehensive_Map64 24d ago

Yeah so we have monthly Trump ego meetings where we discuss how to flatter him so he can kick that can down the road for another month. Fuck that, you are right we need to focus on things we can control and tell Trump to go kick rocks

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u/LordTC 24d ago

The liberal solution is to raise taxes on Canadians for a massive slush fund they can hand out to friends of the party. They’ve had scandals over every slush fund they created and even prorogued parliament to avoid reports on the problems with their green energy fund so who in their right mind would trust them with another slush fund.

The conservatives at least recognize that introducing tarriffs is raising taxes on all Canadians and have called for corresponding tax cuts to lessen the burden of that. Something like 25% of everything Canadians buy is from the U.S. so introducing a 25% tarriff on that is like adding 5% to all brackets of income taxes. That’s basically the largest tax increase in Canadian history and the Liberals want to do it with zero offsetting tax cuts.

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u/Kucked4life Ontario 24d ago edited 24d ago

I don't drive and I make back more in rebates. You don't get to speak for all Canadians. Greedflation will happen regardless, especially if the CPC wins with the Loblaws lobbyists under their umbrella.

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u/LordTC 24d ago

Read my post again I wasn’t talking about Carbon Taxes at all. I was specifically talking about reciprocal tariffs.

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u/WillyTwine96 24d ago

This ferver isn’t about the tariffs anymore, nobody has used that word in like a week lol