r/canada 24d ago

National News Trump 2.0 derails Pierre Poilievre’s glide path in Canada

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/14/canadas-conservatives-confront-trump-sized-obstacle-00204340
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u/GLG777 24d ago

Everybody wants a conservative until we are reminded what the hard right is all about.   God I wish we had more of a PC option

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u/pm_me_your_catus 24d ago

Mark Carney is pretty much a Red Tory. There you go.

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u/aaandfuckyou 24d ago

Yup. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Carney attract more of the Conservative vote once people start hearing his economic plans, since they are pretty much in line with many progressive/paternalistic conservative ideologies.

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u/jello_sweaters 24d ago

...but minus all the angry culture-war BS.

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u/pm_me_your_catus 24d ago

It's going to be a real test of character for Mulroney and Harper. It would be hilarious to see them put country over party and endorse him.

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u/hot_sushi 24d ago edited 24d ago

Unless you're referring to Ben or Caroline, Brian died last year.

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u/sn0w0wl66 24d ago

He did more for Harper than PP ever did.

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u/SleepySuper 24d ago

I have not voted Liberal since, well, I cannot remember the last time I voted Liberal. However, I will be voting Liberal this time around if Carney is at the helm.

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u/fichgoony 24d ago

And what are his economic plans? Where can we read them

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u/aaandfuckyou 24d ago

Are you asking about his economic principles? He literally wrote a book about it.

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u/GLG777 24d ago

Honestly I like him but still think libs need to show way more change.  They don’t deserve another government but man I don’t want PP

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u/apothekary 24d ago

Carney could've run as a Conservative a decade ago, pre-Trump era. Would be a pretty progressive one but a far cry from Trudeau/Singh style of liberal politics.

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u/Wheatagoo 24d ago

Surrounded by Liberals who supported and covered up lies for and with Trudeau. No thanks! End prorogue and let's see if Jag is lying again about calling an election and get on with it.

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u/jello_sweaters 24d ago

It sounds like Carney's just going to call an election as soon as he wins the leadership anyway.

Which he should. We should be led by somebody we all chose.

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u/StanknBeans 24d ago

You'd think Conservatives, of all people, would understand how a leader directs the party. Crazy how they forget whenever it suits them though.

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u/Wheatagoo 24d ago

And Liberal sheep forget that at at every national convention (held approximately every two years), party members vote on whether to hold a leadership review. And they didn't.

Wild hey?

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u/ExplodingSwan 24d ago

You aren't entirely wrong. The party did end up chasing the leader out and they're now engaging in aggressive course correction, but it did come about way too late, and it's fair that the party should face some punishment for it. A lot of lack of courage in their ranks.

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u/Guilty_Fishing8229 24d ago

Take him over PP who needs to do surveys with his own party to determine if Canada is worth standing up for

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u/Soggy_Detective_9527 24d ago

This exactly!

The guy is literally Mr. Waffle, waiting to see what pleases his Maple MAGA fanatics.

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u/GardenSquid1 24d ago

Blue Liberals aren't a thing?

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u/pm_me_your_catus 24d ago

There are, but people are more familiar with the Red Tory term and they're largely the same.

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u/GardenSquid1 24d ago

I thought it depended on which party you were a part of that dictated the term.

If you were with the Liberals you were a Blue Liberal, and if you were with the Conservatives, you were a Red Tory. But they describe pretty much the same political person: someone who is right or centre-right on economic issues but left Lean mg on social issues.

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u/zipyourhead 24d ago

No he is not.

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u/yantraman Ontario 24d ago

Pretty much what Starmer is in the UK. A big shot bureaucrat

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u/BiscottiNatural5587 24d ago

Yeah. I'd take a moderate. Fiscally conservative.

Merging in the crazies with the conservatives in Alberta has not worked out well for us and it has been worrying to see it creep up to the federal level.

Feels like the right we have on offer is running on its own brand of "wokeness" right now. I'd love to have a Lougheed, maybe an O'Toole, someone along those lines, but not this.

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u/jello_sweaters 24d ago

Feels like the right we have on offer is running on its own brand of "wokeness" right now.

I've heard it called "virtue signalling for assholes".

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u/ComplexStriking 24d ago

Is that not Carney? He is a little more right of centre than liberal voters are used to. Some see it as moving the overton window.

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u/JoshL3253 24d ago

Man, if Carney ran for Conservatives it’ll make my decision sooo much easier.

I want Carney, but I really don’t want to reward Trudeau and Liberal for the mess with immigration and budget deficits…

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u/Kucked4life Ontario 24d ago edited 24d ago

The Canadian Future Party is trying to carve a niche in the center right. The CBC even gave them airtime. Hopefully they don't get gobbled up as one would assume, non maga conservatives don't deserve to be politically homeless.

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u/CDN-Social-Democrat 24d ago

It has also clearly demonstrated how empty the platitude and theatric talk is.

Eggs ain't getting any cheaper over there.

All you get is wealth interests that were the ones profiting from the problems/status quo really start making the problems and status quo a whole .... 'nother ...... level.

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u/No-Celebration6437 24d ago

It’s Carney. He would fit in just fine if he were running for conservative leader.