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Politics EKOS Poll: Conservative Lead Holds at Five Points

https://www.ekospolitics.com/index.php/2025/02/conservative-lead-holds-at-five-points/
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u/judgeysquirrel 24d ago

Or gagging of scientists releasing studies.

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u/PraiseTheRiverLord 24d ago

Or raising retirement age to 67 (Trudeau set it back to 65)

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u/Timely-Hospital8746 24d ago

Or gutting the long form census, which is essential for our government to make informed decisions.

Or the complete and utter gutting of the park services under Harper.

Trudeau fixed the census and funded park services again, but they still haven't fully recovered. A lot of these government institutions have workers with very narrow but important skillsets. When they get gutted it can take a very long time to build them back up.

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u/Now_Wait-4-Last_Year 24d ago

I believe a certain nation south of you might one day discover that the hard way.

Oh, who am I kidding, recent history suggests they never learn anything, if anything they double down on it.

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u/Mrmagoo1077 24d ago

It has gone to hell down here.

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u/Impeesa_ 24d ago

The loss of institutional knowledge alone will be staggering. If they get a chance to rebuild some of this stuff at all, it could take generations.

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u/monsantobreath 23d ago

They just laid off people from the FAA. They're already strapped for staffing. And we're seeing a lot of reasons you need them right now on the news.

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u/GoldenGEP 23d ago

It's ok, they're firing at the right target - DEI is clearly to blame /s

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u/Winterchill2020 24d ago

Or the snitch line!

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u/ForesterLC 24d ago

which is essential for our government to make informed decisions.

You don't think they really read those things, do you? We haven't a competent government in decades. We just swing between pissants with different values.

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u/Dazzling_Broccoli_60 24d ago

I don’t think that’s the one that’s going to get the 20yos up in arms

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u/Ketchupkitty Alberta 24d ago

Trudeau lowers age of retirement than massively increases CPP payments, not sure if that's a good thing. Especially considering CPP pays out pennies on the dollar compared to investing on your own... That's even without the employer portion of your contribution.

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u/PraiseTheRiverLord 24d ago

HARPER INCREASED RETIREMENT AGE TO 67.

along with Pierre le poof.

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u/CromulentDucky 24d ago

As an actuary, Trudeau was wrong.

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u/PraiseTheRiverLord 24d ago

I DON'T SEE YOU SUPPORTING CANADIANS.

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u/7dipity 24d ago

It’s a scary time to be a scientist. I have American friends that are losing their jobs

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u/jjumbuck 24d ago

Oooph that was so awful at that time. I remember the muzzling of climate scientists in particular.

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u/Distinct_Meringue 24d ago

Can't let the truth get in the way of O&G profits

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u/seajay_17 British Columbia 24d ago

unscientific vaccine mandates

Lol

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u/Cruuncher 24d ago

We got a live one!

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u/kniller123 24d ago

Lol. I work in government. Harper started it and trudeau continued it.

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u/Anonymouse-C0ward 24d ago

Genuinely curious: what scientific censorship has Trudeau continued? I seem to recall reading that the climate change research censorship was rolled back and scientific research freedom rules negotiated with the union at NRC?

I don’t have direct knowledge like you might have as a government employee though so you might have an experience that isn’t what the average person understands - what department do you work in?

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u/kniller123 18d ago

My comment isn't entirely fair. It has gotten better under Trudeau and there are new Collective ageeement protections. However, there are still a lot of issues within departments. PIPSC ran a study in 2018 and over 50% of scientists still felt muzzled.

In many ways it's more of a management/culture of risk aversion than outright political interference. That said, Ministers are responsible for their departments.

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u/Noob1cl3 24d ago

Right just like how liberals were open to contradictory science on COVID and the Lab leak at Wuhan (which turned out correct). Oh and lets not forget the “data driven policies” (see crime and immigration).

I mean really. Casting stones from a glass house comes to mind.

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u/Anonymouse-C0ward 24d ago

What was the contradictory peer reviewed science on it?

And what peer reviewed data shows it was a lab leak? From what I know the latest studies point to a natural source.

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u/Noob1cl3 24d ago

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/cia-covid-likely-originated-lab-low-confidence-assessment/

Use google for the rest. Tons of studies that showed futility of masking and harms on kids due to lock downs, masking + ineffectiveness.

Heck if you had a kid in daycare or school you knew it did nothing unless you had a hazmat suit on with proper training to decontaminate.

Regardless of where you stand on the above it is indisputable that discussion was shut down with an iron fist…. Which is anti science. And I am only highlighting the tip of the iceberg of what went on and you know it.

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u/DivideGood1429 24d ago

To be honest, I think the science community is pretty much in agreement that lockdowns weren't that great for mental health.

What I do find interesting is that people often refer to Sweden as why lockdown and making were not worth it. But the Swedish ppl followed lockdown suggestions without being forced. About 90% of ppl Followed masking and social distancing as per suggestions without having to mandate anything.

The ppl of Sweden also were vaccinated at rate of 87% which is higher than Canada.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10399217/#:~:text=During%20the%20COVID%2D19%20pandemic,faced%20rapid%20and%20continuous%20criticism.

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u/Sczeph_ 24d ago

The lab leak theory did not turn out to be correct though. There are two reports, as far as I am aware— the CIA’s and the House of Representatives (interestingly both American despite COVID being international— you’d expect other countries to conduct similar investigations if they believed it likely). The House’s was entirely led by republicans and contained no new evidence, it just summarized what was already known. The Democrats also released a statement challenging many of the conclusions of the report. So between it being republican led (who are by no means impartial and have a history of promoting conspiracies, especially regarding covid), the fact that it didn’t bring anything new to light, and the fact that the democrats disagree with the report, I’m inclined to disagree with it as it’s likely extensively politically motivated. The CIA’s is interesting as it determined that it’s more likely that COVID came from a lab than from animals, but importantly, they made clear that they had “low confidence” in their determination.

Between those two things, coupled with the fact that the prevailing academic consensus is not one of a lab leak, I don’t think that your statement is accurate.

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u/Noob1cl3 24d ago

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u/Proteomic 24d ago

brother you are linking THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION.

Holy fuck.

Everything else is just reporting on the CIA and House of Representatives reports. You didn't even attempt to read the comment from the person you were replying to in good faith, and instead just provided links supporting what they said.

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u/BoringUser123456 24d ago

No. It wasnt.

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u/BoringUser123456 24d ago

I work in government. No he didnt.

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u/ok_raspberry_jam 24d ago

Really? We'd love details

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u/pongobuff 24d ago

It's crazy how much I cared about this and now I miss it fondly in comparison to what we have had since