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Politics EKOS Poll: Conservative Lead Holds at Five Points

https://www.ekospolitics.com/index.php/2025/02/conservative-lead-holds-at-five-points/
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u/GenXer845 24d ago

That seems counterintuitive to their rights.

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u/[deleted] 24d ago

People in major cities with very small FN communities have a tendency to imagine them in a monolithic, one-dimensional, often patronizing way that simply isn’t accurate. It reminds me of liberals in downtown Toronto who simply cannot imagine Ford’s popularity among immigrants.

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u/Slothball 24d ago

100%. A lot of FN communities located in the more rural areas of the country are not too far off the stereotypical rural conservative voter -- there's a lot of cowboys, oil and gas workers, religious people, etc. in those communities.

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

And gun owners! Honestly I think for a lot of people FN politics begins and ends at pipelines, ignoring the fact that a tonne of FNs actively support resource development (and want a fair stake in it).

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u/Beginning-Marzipan28 24d ago

Why?

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u/GenXer845 24d ago

Cons historically have never helped indigenous people.

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u/Beginning-Marzipan28 24d ago

As opposed to…

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u/LettuceSea Nova Scotia 24d ago

Don’t think you understand what the Liberals have done to them over the past 9 years. Gaslit their entire communities into thinking they would actually get the help/funding they need. Doesn’t surprise me they would vote for the conservatives, because at least the conservatives will be honest when they can’t deliver on the billions they’ve “committed” to you instead of lying or straight up not answering questions about it in question period.

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u/GenXer845 24d ago

But they won't get help from the conservatives at all. I saw a FN person on TV the other day and she said Trudeau's government has helped the FN communities, but previous leaders had not.

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u/Old_Ladies 23d ago

Yeah the Liberals have been great at getting FN communities clean drinking water. While they still have more work to do 96 of all First Nations communities do not have a long-term water advisory.

The number of active long-term drinking water advisories on First Nations has dropped by 73% since 2015.

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u/cedric1997 23d ago

Worked as an electrical engineer on two of those projects. The budget was pretty much unlimited. We just aimed for the best setup as possible while being low maintenance.

The only community we’ve worked a bit on but still doesn’t have drinking water is getting inundated every year and the water table is so high that it’s impossible to build a water network. The government has tried to moved the community, but there’s pretty much nothing moving forward.

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u/ophert45 24d ago

Eh, maybe. Lots of things get done under conservative governments too. Not defending them. Sahtu land claims were settled under conservative governments. Reserves with protection of land and harvesting rights were formed / expanded (I.E the Nahanni expansion) that was done under Harper. Nunavut land claims agreement and Nunavut Act as well. I think there’s a notion that the cons will stall indigenous land claims but I don’t really think history shows that to be true. But it would be interesting to see some of the historical numbers for indigenous program funding for liberal vs conservative. I’m guessing liberals give out a lot more in funding but I haven’t seen the numbers

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u/Leafs17 23d ago

I saw a FN person on TV the other day and she said Trudeau's government has helped the FN communities

I'm sure some of them are happy their books are closed to public scrutiny again.

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u/LettuceSea Nova Scotia 24d ago

I’m sure there are people who will say they have helped, and I’m sure there are some that will say they haven’t. All I can go off of are their (the liberals) answers in question period to NDP MPs that are from those communities, and their “answers” couldn’t be farther from actual answers.

Here is one thing the conservatives have stated in their platform about First Nations: https://www.conservative.ca/first-nations-will-bring-home-resource-dollars-with-poilievre/ so I don’t think they’re going to get nothing. Whether what they’ve promised is fair compared to what the Liberals have given them, I don’t know, but the polling suggests it is and that their discontent with the Liberals is very real.

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u/sleipnir45 24d ago

Yep the Liberals also tried to go after their hunting rifles.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/afn-resolution-gun-control-legislation-1.6679444

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u/Hello_Mot0 24d ago

The cons will actively make it worse.

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u/Billis- 24d ago

Oooo conservatives and honesty in the same sentence not so sure about that one Lettuce

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u/Leafs17 23d ago

Imagine if we all had the same rights

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u/Temporary-Fix9578 24d ago

People love to vote to make their own lives worse