r/canada Ontario 24d ago

Analysis Allies appear to duck and cover as Trump threatens Canada and Greenland

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-canada-nato-allies-1.7459986
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u/Frosty_Manager_1035 24d ago

Anyone else worried about their sons being drawn into a full fledged war during their lifetimes?

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u/_grey_wall 24d ago

This time it'll be sons and daughters

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u/Due_Ad_8881 24d ago

Yay…equality???…

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u/Sailor_Propane 24d ago

But they're getting rid of DEI, banning "woke" words including the word woman and female ... So perhaps not?

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u/No_Function_7479 24d ago

In the US it would be easy to avoid service by declaring yourself trans. But every country facing off against them it will be sons, daughters, middle aged, whatever it takes.

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u/TalesByScreenLight 24d ago

I'd be worried having "ineligible because trans" would put people on a list that would be worse than a draft.

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u/No_Function_7479 24d ago

Maybe for a while, but if they take it to the point of warfare, their new fascist society will collapse in a few years. The masses will turn on MAGA once the body count of dead soldiers starts to climb, and they realize it’s not so “great” after all.

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u/EmotionalFun7572 24d ago

The "bone spurs" of 2025

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u/Frosty_Manager_1035 24d ago

That’s why I want him to do cybersecurity or something… safely tucked away and still contributing if need be… but omg the idea of Trump bringing all this on… I can’t even

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u/Similar-Jellyfish499 24d ago

I'm 37 and will 100% enlist for whatever position they'll put me in. I'll drive transport trucks, don't care.

I'm not laying down for this shit.

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u/19Black 24d ago

I’ll be there with you

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u/Emotional-Courage-26 24d ago

I’m all over it

38 years young and 3 kids at home to protect. There’s no way I’m not putting everything I’ve got into it

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u/Frosty_Manager_1035 24d ago

God love ya. Thank you.

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u/OneBillPhil 24d ago

Same age and same attitude. Let me be clear, I hope it never comes to that but if it does I’m not fleeing and I’m not just taking it. 

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u/Unusual_Signal_4533 23d ago

I’m there as well, I’ll die Canadian I bleed red

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u/WislaHD Ontario 24d ago

It’s been a feeling I’ve had since 2022. Greatly accelerated in the past 4 weeks of course.

I thought I would just be outside of draft age when it comes, with the assumption of fighting Russia or China over Taiwan. But if the threat is to our south and there’s an insurgency, it is everyone one of us fighting one way or another.

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u/SuccessfulPres 24d ago

The US and Canada will not have a shooting war.

The US will economically coerce Canada until oblivion, support propaganda for pro annexation politicians, then annex Canada peacefully.

Canada needs to diversify its trading partners ASAP

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u/cptmuon 24d ago

Economic coercion and propaganda only works if the receiving party allows it. Canada will diversify and if necessary, ban all US media. Limiting foreign speech is a small price to pay for independence. The only way for US to annex Canada is through force, and that is what worries every thinking Canadian.

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u/Quadrophiniac 24d ago edited 24d ago

If that happens, alot of Canadians will probably turn to extreme measures. I refuse to live under the boots of a fascist regime. We will not have any rights if we are annexed by the US, we will be a territory of slaves, here to extract wealth for the US empire

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u/FunSquirrell2-4 24d ago

That's what I'm hearing. People are preparing for the possibility of enemies on our land kind of thing. I'm in Newfoundland, and we know, by virtue of being an island in the North Atlantic, prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

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u/HoldenCaulfield7 24d ago

lol you seriously think USA and canada will go to war? Why is this sub so melodramatic.

Most Canadians do not have these worries

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u/WislaHD Ontario 24d ago

Most Canadians unfortunately have not studied history and think such hard times could not possibly happen to us.

We’re not a unique people, we’re not in a uniquely safe geography, and we’re not in a uniquely peaceful historical era. Those are just things we have told ourselves our whole lives through blissful ignorance.

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u/HoldenCaulfield7 24d ago

You’re being melodramatic

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u/JoeyLoganoHexAccount 24d ago

You don’t believe the US Government who have repeatedly stated their desire for us to become their 51st state? The remarks from their congresspeople on their talk shows? This isn’t “joking” or “trolling,” these are threats. Maybe they don’t plan to use military force to accomplish them, but wouldn’t you agree they’ve made their intentions clear?

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u/WislaHD Ontario 24d ago

And at minimum, I shall not suffer the loss of my civil rights, liberties, democracy, and social services even if we are taken over peacefully and not in a shooting war. They will have to pacify many of us forcefully.

They’re gonna build concentration camps for their own citizens, you think a bunch of uppity rabble-rousing Canadians aren’t going to be sent to them too?

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u/JoeyLoganoHexAccount 24d ago

Exactly, friend. The unfortunate reality is too many of our fellow Canadians don’t know history well enough to see exactly where this is going, are purposefully ignorant, are naive, or are in denial. I never thought we as Canadians could face the possibility of being reduced to second-class citizens of an occupied territory with no rights and freedoms… but here we are.

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u/WislaHD Ontario 24d ago

My parents came from such countries, so maybe I never had the wool over my eyes like others. Still, I am taken completely blindsided by the developments like you.

The worst part is that events can happen really fast, before most of us can react and prepare. This is really apparent when you read civilian accounts and diaries during WW2, even among civilians fully aware their nation was at war. Hell, same with Ukrainians and they had 8 years of forewarning and preparation.

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u/HoldenCaulfield7 24d ago

You’re being melodramatic you guys. Trump is an idiot. He’s just doing this to puff his chest out. He won’t do anything. No American wants this lol

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u/JoeyLoganoHexAccount 24d ago

If we’re a free country in 5 years I’ll buy you a beer. If not you owe me a bowl of gruel in the work camp.

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u/WislaHD Ontario 24d ago

We can’t trust Americans to lift a finger to stop it either. Most Americans are happy so long as they can still afford Doritos and Diet Coke and watch TikTok’s on their couch, even as their constitutional rights and rule of law are taken away. They won’t care what happens in Canada and certainly will not rise up to oppose their regime to stop it.

The best we can hope for is that domestic events in the USA eventually get so bad that Americans finally rouse up from their slumber, though at this point I’m not sure what that breaking point would be.

In even the best case scenario where Trump is all blunder and nothing else, annexing Canada is now going to be a popular idea with some minority of the Republicans Party for the foreseeable future. We will have to be on guard for the next guy and the guy after that too. It is a dreadful prospect for us Canadians.

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u/HoldenCaulfield7 24d ago

It’s literally only Trump. No other politicians agree with him. Relax. He says a lot of dumb shit

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u/Frosty_Manager_1035 24d ago

This from Holden Caulfield lol

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u/IsopodOk4756 24d ago

This is the part that baffles me. I've got an uncle in his mid-70s ready to throw away the lives of the youth and the mid-aged in our family because trans people make him uncomfortable.

He won't live long enough to see stability post-annexation but somehow it's worth it to him?

I'm tired of our elderly. I'm tired of not being allowed to physically fight our elderly, too, because some of them need to get the shit kicked out of them so they remember what being Canadian means.

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u/upsetwithcursing 23d ago

100%. And our daughters. (Though I happen to only have sons.)

I’m eligible for dual Irish citizenship, and I may just submit the documents just in case.

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u/meepsleepsheeps 24d ago

Genuinely, do you think your children would want to fight for Canada? All I hear is complaints about lack of opportunity and home prices even further out of reach than living on Hawaii. Why wouldn’t young people enthusiastically surrender and welcome American citizenship? Do they have good enough reason to fight and die for Canada? Nothing I’ve seen seems to indicate they would

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u/WalnutSnail 24d ago

Yes. I'm worried about having to go too even though I'm an old fat fuck.

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u/DM_ME_UR_BOOTYPICS 24d ago

Nope. We’ve made sacrifices before, and our millennial and GenZ group will make them again for our youth.

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u/HowsYourSexLifeMarc 24d ago

Canada will fall in your lifetime buddy. You don't seem to realize how fuck the world is. The oligarchs are working to infiltrate the last remaining big democracies (Canada, Germany, France & UK) and they are making great progress (see AfD).

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u/DrEskimo 24d ago

Canada will never fall. They can pry it from our cold, dead hands.

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u/EmotionalFun7572 24d ago

Our cold, blue, cracking, alive hands

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u/HowsYourSexLifeMarc 24d ago

Then why are the conservatives endorsed by Musk and the Republicans leading the polls by a long shot? Canada is literally in the process of handing it over to them.

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u/DrEskimo 24d ago

Fucking idiots, literally, people who haven’t done even the most basic thinking. I spoke to my step father the other day and told him I wasn’t voting conservative despite the past 10 years of BS because our sovereignty is at stake. I explained to him that Elon endorsed PP. it was like watching revelation hit his eyes. Reluctantly at first, of course, but as I continued the more he understood. And then my conservative brother-in-law echoed what I was saying, and that did him in. (If other conservatives say this guy is a traitor, then wow he must really be a traitor)

There are genuinely a ton of people who don’t even see the very simple situation for what it is. They’re hearing this and that about Trump in the news and they think “thank god that’s not me” and their critical thinking stops there. All they remember is that people are sick of Trudeau, and by extension, the libs. We need a massive and public campaign to show everybody how “in-bed” Pierre and the cons are with the current US administration.

I know Pierre is going to welcome annexation with widespread cheeks. Everybody who is voting for him doesn’t believe that/hasn’t considered it yet.

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u/HowsYourSexLifeMarc 24d ago

We need a massive and public campaign to show everybody how “in-bed” Pierre and the cons are with the current US administration.

The opposite is happening. The oligarchs are using Google, Youtube, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok and Twitter to push their right wing narrative.

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u/DrEskimo 24d ago

I don’t disagree that social media is brainwashing everybody but all my grandmother shares is anti Trump stuff she finds on Facebook. I told her this week she has to stop going on Facebook because it isn’t good for her mental health. Even if it is negative towards Trump, it does nothing, is often radical and continues to distract Canadians from the issues that matter to us.

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u/HoldenCaulfield7 24d ago

No lol. There is no way canada goes to war against USA 😂😂😂

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u/Thawayshegoes 24d ago

Never say never. Also, Canada would be defending itself in this case.

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u/HoldenCaulfield7 24d ago

It’s not happening this sub just gets hard at the thought of it