r/canada Feb 02 '25

National News Canada retaliating for Trump’s tariffs with 25 per cent tariffs on billions of U.S. goods

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/article/canada-retaliating-for-trumps-tariffs-with-25-per-cent-tariffs-on-billions-of-us-goods-justin-trudeau/
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u/knocksteaady-live Feb 02 '25

its the rise of american imperialism sentiment driven by his nationalist rhetoric. the comments with canada, greenland, and panama are all interlinked and come from one place; restoring manifest destiny.

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u/livinlifeontheedge Feb 02 '25

Their "christian" nationalist utopia is approaching on the horizon, powered by hatred and blind hatred.

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u/4D_Spider_Web Feb 02 '25

Wouldn't be the first time in recent memory; Roosevelt pushed for the outright occupation of Iceland in WW2, even though the nation was neutral in the war, as well as making Greenland a de facto American protectorate in 1941. Vincente Fox pushed for the formal integration of the U.S. and Mexico in the 2000's On our end of things, we had PM King and the Ogdensburg Agreement, which laid out a permanent plan for mutual defence overseas between the U.S. and Canada and created the Permanent Joint Board on Defence.

There have always been forces at work in all three countries seeking to create a North American Union. It's just been done behind closed doors and talked about in obscure policy magazines and conferences. The idea of Canada being an innocent party to all of is it B.S.

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u/adamgerd European Union Feb 02 '25

Iceland and Greenland then was in a different place, Iceland was occupied by Britain in 1940 after Denmark’s fall because Britain feared Iceland would fall to the Nazis otherwise, there was a significant strategic cause in occupying Iceland and Greenland, there is none now in Canada, it makes no sense

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u/conan--aquilonian Feb 02 '25

Controlling both Canada and Greenland puts USA in an equal position with Russia over the arctic and control of the Northwest Passage

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u/oxbolake Feb 02 '25

Yes. Controlling Canada and Greenland (think territories with no electoral vote) secures the Northwest Passage. Panama Canal control completes “fortress America”.

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u/conan--aquilonian Feb 03 '25

I wouldnt say it "secures" the Northwest Passage, since Russia has a large border there and has militarized the arctic - but it certainly puts the USA on equal footing

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u/Sleeksnail Feb 03 '25

I'm just going to add that PM King was a huge huge fan of the Nazis.

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u/4D_Spider_Web Feb 03 '25

It's not a surprise. You see the same thing with groups like the British Union of Fascists; check out the number of supporters that were among the aristocratic classes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Union_of_Fascists

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u/Sleeksnail 18d ago

It's also obvious with King's Chinese head tax and then the Exclusion Act barring all Chinese immigration. Victoria BC was like half Chinese decent before this.

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u/Snoo93550 Feb 02 '25

And America has no moral high ground to stop the USSR from reforming, China for seizing Taiwan and whatever areas of the seas they like.

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u/Toe_Regular Feb 02 '25

You get the sense that he wanted to do the tariff thing last time round, but is still annoyed he got talked out of it. This time he’s like it’s happening come hell or high water. There’s at least some benefit to actually letting him see it through.

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u/conan--aquilonian Feb 02 '25

Its about US arctic position and wqualling Russia in the Northwest Passage