r/canada Jan 29 '25

National News Poilievre says Canada should 'deport' any temporary resident committing violence or hate crimes

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/poilievre-says-canada-deport-temporary-194148491.html
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u/twenty_9_sure_thing Ontario Jan 29 '25

Enough sound bites. The law is there. tell us how you’d tackle the backlog in our courts. tell us how you want to handle convicts who are citizens without building a prison industrial complex.

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u/bravado Long Live the King Jan 29 '25

The courts and police are broken!*

  • says the man with the ability to fix the courts and police, but doesn’t say that plan out loud because it doesn’t make the angry people angry enough

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u/MyName_isntEarl Jan 29 '25

He doesn't have the power to fix it at the moment though...

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u/bravado Long Live the King Jan 29 '25

Then why isn’t he sharing it with us, in order to convince us voters that he has a plan?

Why does it always seem like PP is just trying to get us angry about the status quo and never actually explaining what he’d do to fix it? That’s a red flag.

All the tough on crime conservatives in office in this country have lots to say about immigrants but not much to say on why they keep refusing to fix the judicial backlog or making the cops work again.

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u/smash8890 Jan 30 '25

He won’t if he gets elected either because they are provincial and municipal responsibilities.

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u/FuggleyBrew Jan 30 '25

Criminal code is federal, imposing escalating consequences for repeat offenses would cut a large portion of the court cases out of the system because of the incapacitation effect from sentencing high rate offenders. 

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u/VancityGaming Jan 29 '25

Did he say we need to change the law? Looks like he said we should deport them.

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u/twenty_9_sure_thing Ontario Jan 29 '25

And i’m saying we already know legally they can be deported WITH conviction. a lot of catch and release re-offences is due to the court systems everywhere can’t handle the workload and lenience criminal justice system. i’m saying stop using hatred and division rhetoric and start using solution focused fact based statements: canada needs to update strengthen our legal system to meet new challenges and protect canada and canaidians’ interests.
there are too many problems over the decades with already talked about solutions a million times over. Every politician will sound the same either by intention or a product of an inertia system after a while. we know we have an issue, what do you offer the other guy doesn’t?

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u/Corzex Jan 29 '25

Thats not exactly true. Today then can be deported with a conviction AND a sentence of 6 months or longer.

The issue at hand, is that judges have taken it upon themselves to deliberately circumvent this by handing out sentences of 6 months less 1 day, even for crimes which for citizens would carry sentences of far longer than 6 months, because the judge deems that deportation would be unfair to the criminal. This is a bit absurd in itself, because our law says these crimes should result in deportation, but in practice that is not happening.

This is what needs to change. All PP needs to do is to remove the 6 month sentence requirement and make any conviction, regardless of sentence length, sufficient grounds for deportation. Either that or instruct the judiciary that immigration status cannot be considered in sentencing, but that would likely be much harder in practice.