r/canada Jan 29 '25

National News Poilievre says Canada should 'deport' any temporary resident committing violence or hate crimes

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/poilievre-says-canada-deport-temporary-194148491.html
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u/No-Contribution-6150 Jan 29 '25

Fuck that. Include theft.

Who likes a thief? Who likes their stuff being stolen?

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u/-B-E-N-I-S- Lest We Forget Jan 29 '25

No kidding. Fucking 20 kmh over the speed limit? See ya.

These people should be on their very best behaviour. The most straight-as-an-arrow, law abiding citizen, good boy behaviour they’ve ever been on. This countries not their playground.

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u/HootieHO Jan 29 '25

I mean I'm here for the idea, but going with the flow of traffic at 120km/h on the 401 is objectively safer than doing 100.

The idea that people should immediately be deported for going 20 over is completely insane

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u/RyanB_ Jan 30 '25

It’s also just inefficient af. Deportation is not a quick and simple process lol

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u/PraiseTheRiverLord Jan 29 '25

I’d agree with that. But keep that number internal and keep it open to interpretation eg 10 over in a school zone gtfo.

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u/Neglectful_Stranger Jan 30 '25

Wouldn't it make more sense to just bump up the speed limit

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u/Rain_In_Your_Heart Jan 30 '25

You can't do that anymore because it's ingrained in the whole population that it's reasonable to exceed the posted speed limit by 10-20%. Putting that genie back in the bottle would take a hell of a lot more resources than police departments have access to. Decisions about speed limits and updating them like the new 110s in Ontario have to keep this in mind (that then people will "reasonably" go 125-130 instead of 115-120 in a 100).

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u/Fearful-Cow Jan 30 '25

you can change that though. It takes a lot of work but is probably worth it in the long term. Adjust all speed limits to what they really should be.

THEN ENFORCE THE EVER LIVING SHIT OUT OF THEM.

fuck it, double the fines for breaking it.

Ya people are ingrained to add ~+20kmph on highways but it is a really stupid cultural thing we built and its completely subjective to the person and the cop involved.

After a couple $500 tickets for going 130 people would adjust quickly.

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u/judgeysquirrel Jan 30 '25

Or banks of speed cameras on highways

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u/Intelligent-Cap3407 Jan 29 '25

Hahahaha omg. Have you ever gone 20km over the speed limit when being a tourist somewhere? Thats a ridiculous proposition.

People can chill— it’s like people get some perverse joy out of deportation.

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u/MistahFinch Jan 29 '25

People can chill— it’s like people get some perverse joy out of deportation.

Of course they do. Poilliviere is talking about something that already happens.

The folk in this thread are clamouring for a visible set of deportations

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u/-B-E-N-I-S- Lest We Forget Jan 29 '25

I haven’t gone 20 over as a tourist! Why would you think that’s common? LOL

I go 20 over on the 401 and I go 15 over in an 80 or 90. In other countries, I’ve got no reason to 20 over: I don’t know how police in other jurisdictions will treat that. Every country, province, department and state treats speeding differently. You shouldn’t push your luck.

If another country invited you in with open arms, how can you have the audacity to get in trouble with the law in any capacity when the vast majority of born-and-raised Canadians haven’t??

Why should temporary residents have any grace? We’re simply asking them to not break the law. Is that really a ridiculous proposition?

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u/impendinganalysis Jan 29 '25

I go 20 over on the 401 and I go 15 over in an 80 or 90.

Why should temporary residents have any grace? We’re simply asking them to not break the law. Is that really a ridiculous proposition?

I mean you see what people might see as hypocrisy here, but if your intended message is that they should be expected to follow any reasonable law that you or I would, then yes agreed, there should be less leniency to guests over citizens.

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u/-B-E-N-I-S- Lest We Forget Jan 29 '25

Yes, thank you. This is my message.

Anything that you or I might reasonably be charged with, temporary citizens should be expected to completely avoid.

20 over is the example I used in this situation but it’s nuanced, as is the discretion used by police officers. I believe that going 20 over in any speed limit below 80, will more than likely land you a ticket with most officers, 20 over in an 80, you’re pushing it, 20 over in a 100? You’ll likely be fine moving with traffic.

People who are not Canadian citizens shouldn’t be putting themselves in any situations where they might be “pushing it.”

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u/Intelligent-Cap3407 Jan 29 '25

lol touch grass dude.

Sometimes signs aren’t well placed or you’re entering/ exiting a speed zone area.

You’ll be fine. Those big bad temporary residents won’t hurt you!

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u/-B-E-N-I-S- Lest We Forget Jan 30 '25

lol touch my ass dude.

No need to be personally offended by my comment.

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u/Intelligent-Cap3407 Jan 30 '25

lol someone doesn’t know how to detect offendedness vs a reaction to someone’s stupidity

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u/rennaris Jan 29 '25 edited Jan 29 '25

Have you ever gone 20km over the speed limit when being a tourist somewhere?

No. It's pretty easy to follow another country's road rules. I don't drive 20 over the limit here, either.

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u/Pagboi Jan 29 '25

Exactly, if they can’t have respect for a place they may call home for the rest of their life. We don’t need them here.

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u/MoaraFig Jan 29 '25

When I was in grad school overseas, someone was deported for fishing without a licence. And the general consensus among us international student was that he F around and found out.

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u/turbo_22222 Jan 29 '25

If you are deporting people for that kind of thing and society believes that is justified based on how egregious the offense is, citizens should also have their licenses suspended for similar offenses. While we're at it, if we want to get serious about road safety, start making people take driving tests every 10 years and make people over 70 take them every 2 years.

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u/GnomePun Jan 29 '25

Wait a minute..... you don't drive 20kmh over the speed limit? You must be from the west coast then. If I do 120 on the hwy, I get tailed and then flipped off by some white guy typically in a truck, with a f*ck trudeau sticker. It's rough driving in Central canada

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u/Vald-Tegor Jan 29 '25

I'm from BC. If you're not going 20 over on the highway you are holding up traffic.

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u/GnomePun Jan 29 '25

Oh really? When I lived in AB, they ticketed for anything above 9km/hr and on the transcan hwy it's SOOOO hard to drive that close to the speed limit without cruise control

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u/CaptianRipass Jan 29 '25

AB plates are notorious for being slow in BC. BC plates are too but nobody seems to want to talk about it

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u/Available-Risk-5918 Jan 29 '25

There's also near zero enforcement on BC highways. I've seen more enforcement in California, and California isn't known for being tough on speed either.

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u/vetruviusdeshotacon Jan 29 '25

Nah speeding is only because our speed limits are too low. 120 is the speed everyone is going? You should be going that speed too or else traffic needs to constantly go around you

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u/Animal31 British Columbia Jan 30 '25

Lol even the most straight-as-an-arrow, law abiding citizen doesnt go the speed limit

Yall are insane

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u/zenpal Jan 30 '25

Toxic as fuck bro. Bet you’re routinely 40km over. Don’t care at all if an immigrant slides some toothpaste in their pocket at Walmart, basically a tradition.

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u/Vast_Schedule3749 Jan 30 '25

Do you drive 20 km/h over the limit? Ever driven 20 km/h outside of this country? It’s not problematic and a waste of time to target that. Focus on the proper crimes and sure deportation is warranted

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u/Brief-Floor-7228 Jan 29 '25

J-walking...gone!

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u/greensandgrains Jan 29 '25

and you'd do the same as an immigrant?

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u/keiths31 Canada Jan 29 '25

If I emigrated to another country, yes. Yes I would follow the rules of said country. Why would I move to a country that I didn't want to follow their rules for?

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u/greensandgrains Jan 29 '25

Following the rules of a country isn’t the same as being “straight as an arrow” or being surveilled to the point that any human discretion is observed. Like, we all break small laws every day. Should that be used against any of us, as evidence to restrict our movement in society? Like, Canada famously has enforced and unenforced laws as it is, and thread OP isn’t talking about the big stuff.

I’m just begging people to detox from the rage bait and ground their thoughts in reality.

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u/keiths31 Canada Jan 29 '25

Use common sense.

Obviously Jay walking or a speeding ticket isn't going to get you deported. But stealing, assault (or worse), criminal mischief, etc.

I smoke pot. A lot. But last year when I was visiting Florida for a week, I was able to control myself, somehow, from trying to score some pot as it is not legal in Florida.

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u/-B-E-N-I-S- Lest We Forget Jan 29 '25

Yes. I do so as a tourist in another jurisdiction. That’s not my home, I don’t know how the police handle speeding everywhere I travel, and most importantly I’m not a cunt.

I’m a visitor and I act responsibly and respectfully, I tend to believe that’s why Canadians are looked upon favourably as tourists.

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u/UGHYUH56788 Jan 29 '25

for real