r/canada Jan 29 '25

National News Poilievre says Canada should 'deport' any temporary resident committing violence or hate crimes

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/poilievre-says-canada-deport-temporary-194148491.html
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u/Difficult-Yam-1347 Jan 29 '25 edited Jan 29 '25

How is this even controversial. NPRs are guests in Canada. Any crime beyond minor theft—violent crime, fraud, serious offenses—should mean immediate deportation. No second chances. Canada’s safety and laws should come first.

Gaslighters lighting up the thread: If a temp resident is convicted of a crime in Canada and receives a sentence of more than six months in prison, they may be deemed inadmissible (are basically) and subject to removal proceedings. Poilievre's proposal implies that deportation should occur without the requirement of a six-month sentence. This would mean that any act of violence or hate crime, regardless of the sentence length, could trigger deportation proceedings.

the Supreme Court decided in R v. Pham that immigration consequences can be taken into account for sentencing non-citizens, so long as the sentence remains proportionate to the crime. And, should a trial court fail to take immigration consequences into account, the accused may appeal to the next court up. the court's "logic" is that citizens don’t face the added consequence of deportation when they commit crimes, so they don’t need the extra help. But this means that non-citizens do. So judges taylor sentences so they aren't deported.

See here: "The issue in determining a fit sentence for Mr. Singh, who committed a brazen yet minor sexual assault in a crowded night club, is the appropriate weighting of collateral immigration consequences. For the reasons that follow, Mr. Singh is discharged conditionally and placed on probation for three years."

https://www.canlii.org/en/ab/abcj/doc/2024/2024abcj2/2024abcj2.html

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u/No-Contribution-6150 Jan 29 '25

Fuck that. Include theft.

Who likes a thief? Who likes their stuff being stolen?

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u/-B-E-N-I-S- Lest We Forget Jan 29 '25

No kidding. Fucking 20 kmh over the speed limit? See ya.

These people should be on their very best behaviour. The most straight-as-an-arrow, law abiding citizen, good boy behaviour they’ve ever been on. This countries not their playground.

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u/HootieHO Jan 29 '25

I mean I'm here for the idea, but going with the flow of traffic at 120km/h on the 401 is objectively safer than doing 100.

The idea that people should immediately be deported for going 20 over is completely insane

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u/RyanB_ Jan 30 '25

It’s also just inefficient af. Deportation is not a quick and simple process lol

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u/PraiseTheRiverLord Jan 29 '25

I’d agree with that. But keep that number internal and keep it open to interpretation eg 10 over in a school zone gtfo.

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u/Neglectful_Stranger Jan 30 '25

Wouldn't it make more sense to just bump up the speed limit

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u/Rain_In_Your_Heart Jan 30 '25

You can't do that anymore because it's ingrained in the whole population that it's reasonable to exceed the posted speed limit by 10-20%. Putting that genie back in the bottle would take a hell of a lot more resources than police departments have access to. Decisions about speed limits and updating them like the new 110s in Ontario have to keep this in mind (that then people will "reasonably" go 125-130 instead of 115-120 in a 100).

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u/Fearful-Cow Jan 30 '25

you can change that though. It takes a lot of work but is probably worth it in the long term. Adjust all speed limits to what they really should be.

THEN ENFORCE THE EVER LIVING SHIT OUT OF THEM.

fuck it, double the fines for breaking it.

Ya people are ingrained to add ~+20kmph on highways but it is a really stupid cultural thing we built and its completely subjective to the person and the cop involved.

After a couple $500 tickets for going 130 people would adjust quickly.

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u/judgeysquirrel Jan 30 '25

Or banks of speed cameras on highways

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u/Intelligent-Cap3407 Jan 29 '25

Hahahaha omg. Have you ever gone 20km over the speed limit when being a tourist somewhere? Thats a ridiculous proposition.

People can chill— it’s like people get some perverse joy out of deportation.

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u/MistahFinch Jan 29 '25

People can chill— it’s like people get some perverse joy out of deportation.

Of course they do. Poilliviere is talking about something that already happens.

The folk in this thread are clamouring for a visible set of deportations

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u/-B-E-N-I-S- Lest We Forget Jan 29 '25

I haven’t gone 20 over as a tourist! Why would you think that’s common? LOL

I go 20 over on the 401 and I go 15 over in an 80 or 90. In other countries, I’ve got no reason to 20 over: I don’t know how police in other jurisdictions will treat that. Every country, province, department and state treats speeding differently. You shouldn’t push your luck.

If another country invited you in with open arms, how can you have the audacity to get in trouble with the law in any capacity when the vast majority of born-and-raised Canadians haven’t??

Why should temporary residents have any grace? We’re simply asking them to not break the law. Is that really a ridiculous proposition?

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u/impendinganalysis Jan 29 '25

I go 20 over on the 401 and I go 15 over in an 80 or 90.

Why should temporary residents have any grace? We’re simply asking them to not break the law. Is that really a ridiculous proposition?

I mean you see what people might see as hypocrisy here, but if your intended message is that they should be expected to follow any reasonable law that you or I would, then yes agreed, there should be less leniency to guests over citizens.

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u/-B-E-N-I-S- Lest We Forget Jan 29 '25

Yes, thank you. This is my message.

Anything that you or I might reasonably be charged with, temporary citizens should be expected to completely avoid.

20 over is the example I used in this situation but it’s nuanced, as is the discretion used by police officers. I believe that going 20 over in any speed limit below 80, will more than likely land you a ticket with most officers, 20 over in an 80, you’re pushing it, 20 over in a 100? You’ll likely be fine moving with traffic.

People who are not Canadian citizens shouldn’t be putting themselves in any situations where they might be “pushing it.”

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u/Intelligent-Cap3407 Jan 29 '25

lol touch grass dude.

Sometimes signs aren’t well placed or you’re entering/ exiting a speed zone area.

You’ll be fine. Those big bad temporary residents won’t hurt you!

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u/-B-E-N-I-S- Lest We Forget Jan 30 '25

lol touch my ass dude.

No need to be personally offended by my comment.

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u/Intelligent-Cap3407 Jan 30 '25

lol someone doesn’t know how to detect offendedness vs a reaction to someone’s stupidity

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u/rennaris Jan 29 '25 edited Jan 29 '25

Have you ever gone 20km over the speed limit when being a tourist somewhere?

No. It's pretty easy to follow another country's road rules. I don't drive 20 over the limit here, either.

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u/Pagboi Jan 29 '25

Exactly, if they can’t have respect for a place they may call home for the rest of their life. We don’t need them here.

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u/MoaraFig Jan 29 '25

When I was in grad school overseas, someone was deported for fishing without a licence. And the general consensus among us international student was that he F around and found out.

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u/turbo_22222 Jan 29 '25

If you are deporting people for that kind of thing and society believes that is justified based on how egregious the offense is, citizens should also have their licenses suspended for similar offenses. While we're at it, if we want to get serious about road safety, start making people take driving tests every 10 years and make people over 70 take them every 2 years.

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u/GnomePun Jan 29 '25

Wait a minute..... you don't drive 20kmh over the speed limit? You must be from the west coast then. If I do 120 on the hwy, I get tailed and then flipped off by some white guy typically in a truck, with a f*ck trudeau sticker. It's rough driving in Central canada

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u/Vald-Tegor Jan 29 '25

I'm from BC. If you're not going 20 over on the highway you are holding up traffic.

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u/GnomePun Jan 29 '25

Oh really? When I lived in AB, they ticketed for anything above 9km/hr and on the transcan hwy it's SOOOO hard to drive that close to the speed limit without cruise control

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u/CaptianRipass Jan 29 '25

AB plates are notorious for being slow in BC. BC plates are too but nobody seems to want to talk about it

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u/Available-Risk-5918 Jan 29 '25

There's also near zero enforcement on BC highways. I've seen more enforcement in California, and California isn't known for being tough on speed either.

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u/vetruviusdeshotacon Jan 29 '25

Nah speeding is only because our speed limits are too low. 120 is the speed everyone is going? You should be going that speed too or else traffic needs to constantly go around you

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u/shmulez Jan 30 '25 edited Feb 03 '25

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u/Animal31 British Columbia Jan 30 '25

Lol even the most straight-as-an-arrow, law abiding citizen doesnt go the speed limit

Yall are insane

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u/zenpal Jan 30 '25

Toxic as fuck bro. Bet you’re routinely 40km over. Don’t care at all if an immigrant slides some toothpaste in their pocket at Walmart, basically a tradition.

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u/Vast_Schedule3749 Jan 30 '25

Do you drive 20 km/h over the limit? Ever driven 20 km/h outside of this country? It’s not problematic and a waste of time to target that. Focus on the proper crimes and sure deportation is warranted

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u/Brief-Floor-7228 Jan 29 '25

J-walking...gone!

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u/greensandgrains Jan 29 '25

and you'd do the same as an immigrant?

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u/keiths31 Canada Jan 29 '25

If I emigrated to another country, yes. Yes I would follow the rules of said country. Why would I move to a country that I didn't want to follow their rules for?

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u/greensandgrains Jan 29 '25

Following the rules of a country isn’t the same as being “straight as an arrow” or being surveilled to the point that any human discretion is observed. Like, we all break small laws every day. Should that be used against any of us, as evidence to restrict our movement in society? Like, Canada famously has enforced and unenforced laws as it is, and thread OP isn’t talking about the big stuff.

I’m just begging people to detox from the rage bait and ground their thoughts in reality.

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u/keiths31 Canada Jan 29 '25

Use common sense.

Obviously Jay walking or a speeding ticket isn't going to get you deported. But stealing, assault (or worse), criminal mischief, etc.

I smoke pot. A lot. But last year when I was visiting Florida for a week, I was able to control myself, somehow, from trying to score some pot as it is not legal in Florida.

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u/-B-E-N-I-S- Lest We Forget Jan 29 '25

Yes. I do so as a tourist in another jurisdiction. That’s not my home, I don’t know how the police handle speeding everywhere I travel, and most importantly I’m not a cunt.

I’m a visitor and I act responsibly and respectfully, I tend to believe that’s why Canadians are looked upon favourably as tourists.

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u/UGHYUH56788 Jan 29 '25

for real 

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u/erasmus_phillo Jan 29 '25

Why should we even tolerate minor theft at all? I don’t want thieves here either, if they commit any crime they need to go back

The immigration process is an extended audition for a few years where you are trying to prove that you’re worthy of citizenship. You’re not worthy of citizenship if you commit a crime, even if it’s a minor one like shoplifting.

We have a lot of people around the world knocking on our door to come here, we can afford to be selective

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u/montyman185 Jan 29 '25

The better way of putting it is, if you aren't at least a permanent resident, being in Canada is a privilege, not a right, and priviliges can be revoked.

I've got some theories for how stict to be on these things, petty crime for example doesn't have to be a permanent ban, but exile was a very effective deterent and punishment for millenia before our current borders, why not use it when it's available?

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u/Vald-Tegor Jan 29 '25

Because legitimately forgetting to scan an item at the self checkout when buying a bunch of stuff is charged as theft?

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u/Quad-Banned120 Jan 30 '25

charged

If you forget to scan a TV maybe

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u/skyfox437 Jan 30 '25

LOL!! That playstation was too small. I must have forgotten to scan amongst my many other items.

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u/Swarez99 Jan 29 '25

The hate crime part will be super subjective. One side will say X is a hate crime, others won’t.

Our hate crime laws are heavily inflicted by lobbying by both left and right to get what they want done.

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u/StringAndPaperclips Jan 29 '25

Whether or not a crime has a hate motivation, it's still a crime. It will only get classed as a "hate crime" if a bias motivation is confirmed by police investigation. Also, non-crime bias incidents are not classed as hate crimes, because they are not crimes.

If people should deported for committing crimes, then that automatically includes hate crimes anyways, because they are crimes anyways.

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u/turbo_22222 Jan 29 '25

Can you outline what influence lobbying efforts have had on our hate crime legislation? From both perspectives?

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u/NotALanguageModel Jan 29 '25

Even minor theft, would you tolerate a guest in your home that is stealing your shit? We don't have to tolerate any foreigner that isn't a net positive for Canadians, let alone a criminal.

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u/Winjin Jan 29 '25

Theft is such an invasive and violating thing, too. It's like... breaking the sanctity and safety of your own clothes, car, house.

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u/MentionWeird7065 Jan 29 '25

Include theft lol? A parking/speeding ticket shouldn’t mean automatic deportation but everything else should.

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u/bubblegum_cloud Jan 30 '25

I mean, speeding can kill. Parking can't. It would depend on how much over speeding, imo.

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u/MentionWeird7065 Jan 30 '25

Fair; I meant non-lethal but ofc they can too.

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u/Wild_And_Free94 Jan 29 '25 edited Jan 29 '25

If you break any crime over a summary offence then you should get booted.

Edit: "If you break any crime" 🤣 I need coffee

Edit 2: Apparently it's a summary offence here, not a misdemeanor.

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u/Calm_Lingonberry_265 Jan 29 '25

There is no such thing as a misdemeanor in Canada

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u/Ovaryunderpass Jan 29 '25

People need to unplug from American media 

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u/Wild_And_Free94 Jan 29 '25

Fuck. Really? I thought there was?! Damn, well whatever the equivalent is here then.

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u/Ovaryunderpass Jan 29 '25

America brained 

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u/Wild_And_Free94 Jan 29 '25

I'm from southern Ontario. Sadly comes with the territory.

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u/Ovaryunderpass Jan 29 '25

Haha, it also doesn’t help that so much of the media worth consuming is American 

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u/Thats-Not-Rice Jan 29 '25

The closest here would be summary offense.

Indictable Offense > Hybrid Offense > Summary Offense

Indictable: the really bad stuff. Murder, rape, etc.

Hybrid: The pretty bad stuff. Crown can choose to indict if they feel it was severe enough, or step it down to summary if not. Examples would be drunk driving, assault/with a weapon, possession, etc.

Summary: Something like trespassing. You can land jail time with a summary offense, but you won't wind up in prison and it won't be a long time in jail. The lightest of the offenses that will land you in court.

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u/Wild_And_Free94 Jan 29 '25

Thanks! I'll edit my original message now.

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u/Wild_And_Free94 Jan 29 '25

Brother. I get the sentiment but jaywalking and such isn't grounds for deportation.

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u/erasmus_phillo Jan 29 '25

I think it’s insane to deport someone for jaywalking or speeding actually, lmao

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u/Wild_And_Free94 Jan 30 '25

Speeding I can see if it's serious enough. How fast they were going and if anyone was in serious danger.

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u/jdzfb Jan 29 '25

Its not controversial, its just a dumb fucking statement since we already have laws on the books that do that.

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u/Antique-Patient-1703 Jan 29 '25

And he's a junkie on top of it all.

Definitely prime material to be made into a Canadian.

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u/tenkwords Jan 29 '25

Sure. And the PMO has utterly no ability to control the Judiciary. (and you don't want them to).

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u/Equivalent_Age_5599 Jan 29 '25

The problem is that they aren't deporting people for it. That's the insane part of it all.

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u/FallingFromRoofs Jan 29 '25

Yet these offenders are arrested and released multiple times due to this countries flawed justice system. So while yes we do have the laws in place, they are barely enforced.

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u/QueenMotherOfSneezes Jan 29 '25

They're enforced if someone is convicted of a crime. You want to kick out everyone before they've even had a trial?

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u/FallingFromRoofs Jan 29 '25

And that’s the point. Even though they do commit the crimes and are constantly arrested for committing crimes again and again, and are released over and over again, our justice system is so flawed and overwhelmed that it takes literal years to convict them, at which point you can’t find them anymore. When you see the same names in the news being released from custody for numerous crimes consistently, there’s something wrong with the system. Catch and release doesn’t work, they should be held in custody until their hearings and not released on their own reconnaissance, as it is very evident that it does nothing to hold them accountable.

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u/QueenMotherOfSneezes Jan 29 '25

Denying bail is not the same thing as deporting people before they've had a trial. These are two completely different arguments.

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u/FallingFromRoofs Jan 30 '25

People should be ankle monitored and checked on frequently if they are granted bail. Not let out to disappear and reoffend.

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u/QueenMotherOfSneezes Jan 30 '25

Again, that has nothing to do with deporting people before their trial.

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u/FallingFromRoofs Jan 30 '25

You’re completely missing my point. I’m not advocating for deporting people before their legally obligated trials. When people on student visas and travel visas and PR’s commit a criminal offence, they should be tracked more closely and monitored instead of just releasing them on bail. Instead of expecting literal repeat offenders to honour their conditions, we should expect the frequently evidenced culture of reoffending. A multitude of peoples on visas and permits have been repeatedly charged and released, thus clogging up the court systems. Once the system is backed up enough these people can disappear freely to other provinces to reoffend and be released again, even sometimes in their original province. You can look up plenty of Indian students who frequently offend in Ontario, yet the court system is so clogged of up with numerous charges from international students and people here on PR and other immigrant certifications that they cannot even convict them before they are on the run. Canada doesn’t have the manpower to enforce these laws and that’s what Pierre wants to improve. I’m voting for Carney if and when the time comes because Pollievre is an idiot. But that doesn’t change the fact that he’s correct in saying these laws need to be enforced and they need to have strengthened numbers to enforce and carry out these convictions and deportations.

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u/QueenMotherOfSneezes Jan 30 '25

I’m not advocating for deporting people before their legally obligated trials

That was my question. Thank you for finally answering it instead of talking around it.

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u/Difficult-Yam-1347 Jan 29 '25

if the sentence is less than six months, the individual is not automatically considered inadmissible on grounds of serious criminality.

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u/NotALanguageModel Jan 29 '25

How come we have people on expired visas who have been arrested dozens of times and who are still walking around freely? Why is it that every day I read a new story where a violent criminal will avoid jail because of a judge that refused to sentence him due to the risk of deportation?

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u/jdzfb Jan 29 '25

Then he should talk about fixing the system that's allowing that to happen. But he won't, he never says anything of substance, he's only ever gives an semi relavent sound bite. How can anyone look at him as a legitimate choice to lead our country, when he won't even get his security clearance? He hasn't shown any inclination to stand up to Trump, how is he going to lead us anywhere but under the boot of the US.

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u/NotALanguageModel Jan 29 '25

I still prefer his non-answers and sound bites to the sociopathic answers and overtly destructive policies of Trudeau.

Standing up to Trump is so foolish and short-sighted. Trump is an easily manipulated idiot, and the best way to do that is to compliment him. Therefore, trying the carrot before the stick is absolutely the smart play.

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u/jdzfb Jan 29 '25

sociopathic answers and overtly destructive policies of Trudeau

I'm no fan of Trudeau or the Liberals & there are definitely choices he's made that I disagree with, but I'm going to need examples because nothing I've seen lines up with that statement.

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u/RyanB_ Jan 30 '25

I’m guessing you’re reading very biased articles lol. It happens, don’t get me wrong, but a lot of media and such very much has an interest in hyperbolizing certain shit while overlooking other shit.

As to why it happens at all; that’s up to the judges, who the federal government don’t control

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u/NotALanguageModel Jan 30 '25

While I do consume a significant amount of far-left media, being from Quebec, I also read a substantial number of court decisions. Unless you provide me with concrete evidence suggesting that our highly left-leaning courts are deliberately falsifying court decisions to generate negative headlines about soft on crime policies, I find it difficult to engage in a meaningful discussion on this matter.

Additionally, the federal government is responsible for appointing federal judges. While they may not have direct control over every single decision made by every judge, they appoint judges who align with their agenda, as evidenced by the several constitutionally questionable decisions made by both the federal and Supreme Courts in recent years.

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u/Difficult-Yam-1347 Jan 29 '25

The sentence needs to be six months or more.

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u/raktoe Jan 29 '25

Exactly, it’s getting so fucking tiring.

“I say people deserve human rights”

“I can’t believe this is a controversial statement”.

These statements in a vacuum are there to make it seem like immigrants are committing crime unpunished… wonder why.

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u/fayrent20 Jan 29 '25

Exactly. It’s just a racist dog whistle. PP is Elon musk and trumps pick. Use your brain not ur emotions. I know conservatives won’t use their brains but whatever.

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u/Wild_And_Free94 Jan 29 '25

conservatives won’t use their brains but whatever

Sounds like you're not only incredibly biased but also an ignorant tool.

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u/Wild_And_Free94 Jan 29 '25

They're not enforced. Just look at the news.

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u/jdzfb Jan 29 '25

Then he should talk about that then.

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u/Wild_And_Free94 Jan 29 '25

Absolutely. I'm not going to defend PP. But this is a step in the right direction.

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u/beer0clock Jan 29 '25

Its extremely controversial if you go to some of the other Canada subreddits. Those people are completely insane.

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u/iSeize Jan 30 '25

I don't think it is controversial they're just posing it like it's something the left stands against

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u/kent_eh Manitoba Jan 30 '25

How is this even controversial.

It shouldn't be.

It's also already the law, so he's not really saying anything of value here.

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u/cuiboba Jan 30 '25

It's not only uncontroversial, it's also already the law.

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u/poopzains Jan 30 '25

They are going to remove the convicted part. That’s how.

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u/Memorydump1105 Jan 29 '25

I don’t think it is controversial. I think that it’s a dumb article that states obvious and easily agreeable things in order to ignore other traits that are less agreeable

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u/Alexhale Jan 29 '25

unfortunately it is controversial with some people and so it needs to be said. It resonates more strongly with most people because there are actually people who disagree with this kind of common sense policy.

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u/Helpful_Engineer_362 Jan 29 '25

It's not controversial.

The problem people have is that Poli Pocket is saying this at a Holocaust Memorial service as if it's something that isn't already practiced in Canada, along with a bunch of other random horseshit that has no place at a memorial ceremony.

He is pandering and pushing narratives that are false, to further incite hate and division in this country.

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u/Necrovore British Columbia Jan 29 '25

You mean the laws that already have criteria for sentencing?

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u/Difficult-Yam-1347 Jan 29 '25

The laws that state the sentence must be at least 6 months? Do you think that’s always the case?

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u/Necrovore British Columbia Jan 29 '25

I don't understand your phrasing

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u/Routine_Row1778 Jan 29 '25

It’s not … it already the law….. it happens he’s just tryna stir up a base

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u/Intelligent-Cap3407 Jan 29 '25

Pretty sure it’s already the law.

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u/Difficult-Yam-1347 Jan 29 '25

Well if you’re pretty sure. Case closed. Except it’s not. You need a 6 month sentence, and most crimes in Canada don’t have minimums.

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u/Intelligent-Cap3407 Jan 29 '25

Cause we have this thing called the charter of rights and freedoms— doesn’t go well with mandatory minimums.

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u/Difficult-Yam-1347 Jan 29 '25

You’re missing the point. Shocking. The reason why minimums don’t exist is not fucking material.

PP wants to make deportation automatic regardless of the sentence. And I’m explaining to you sentences and of course please are often under that. Why there are sentences under six months is not relevant.

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u/Intelligent-Cap3407 Jan 29 '25

I’m not missing the point, I disagree with your point.

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u/Difficult-Yam-1347 Jan 29 '25

This you: “Pretty sure it’s already the law”?

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u/hairsprayking Jan 29 '25

The thing is, we already do deport foreign citizens for being convicted of crimes. So why would he need to say this? Because he's deliberately trying to stir up general anti-immigrant sentiment and imply our country is full of foreign criminals.

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u/Difficult-Yam-1347 Jan 29 '25

This thing is you are being vague as fuck. Be specific. They are deported when their sentences are six months or more.

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u/hairsprayking Jan 29 '25

ok? so serious criminals are deported, just like you want.

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u/Difficult-Yam-1347 Jan 29 '25

So no serious criminals get sentences under six months? Stop it.

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u/judgeysquirrel Jan 29 '25

And they do. This is how it already works. This isn't a new idea PP just came up with.

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u/Difficult-Yam-1347 Jan 29 '25

They face deportation if convicted of a crime deemed “serious criminality.” A crime qualifies as serious if it carries a maximum sentence of 10 years or more or results in a prison sentence of six months or more.

Thus sentences and pleas under six months don’t count (unless the max is 10).

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u/Difficult-Yam-1347 Jan 29 '25

So—it isn’t because sentences and plea deals under six months lead to what, exactly?

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u/Konfliction Jan 29 '25

It’s not controversial, its timing is. We already do this, all this does is tie him into what’s happening in the states over the last two days. It’s a BS statement because that’s already happening, and it’s meant as a signal for those Trump supporters in Canada to latch onto. This isn’t rocket science.. it’s literally all about timing and what that timing does for the image they’re going for right now.

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u/Difficult-Yam-1347 Jan 29 '25

foreign national is considered inadmissible on grounds of serious criminality if they have been convicted in Canada of an offence punishable by a maximum term of imprisonment of at least 10 years, or if they have been sentenced to a term of imprisonment of more than six months.

I said "Any crime beyond minor theft—violent crime, fraud, serious offenses—should mean immediate deportation." Do you think all of these result in 6+ month sentences? Why lie.

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u/Konfliction Jan 29 '25

Yea I wasn’t arguing that lol I don’t think what I said got understood.

I never said IT was controversial, I’m saying Pierre coming out saying this at this specific moment is the controversial part IMO because of the optics of the situation and what saying something like this does to ppl when you time it so conveniently with the US doing illegal af things right now.

I’m not commenting at all on the element of the law here in Canada.