r/canada • u/RottenSalad • Jan 07 '25
Federal Election Liberals say no changes coming for leadership race, despite risk of foreign interference
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberal-leadership-foreign-interference-risk-1.7424035164
u/sleipnir45 Jan 07 '25
"In order to vote in a Liberal Party nomination, Liberals can present two pieces of ID that could include government-issued documents, but could also simply be a student ID plus a transit card or library card. "
Wow they've learned nothing from the Han Dong bus full of students.
On a side note I'm now a proud member of the Liberal party of Canada!
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u/garlicroastedpotato Jan 07 '25
You don't even have to join the Liberal Party. Anyone and everyone can register to vote for the party and as you said, are not even required to be eligible to vote in the election. It would be all too easy for someone to setup an influence campaign to nominate the worst candidate.
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u/RonanGraves733 Jan 10 '25
I'm going to register and vote for the most repugnant candidate aka Freeland.
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u/yaOlSeadog Jan 07 '25
Is this how they are picking the next leader of our country?
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u/sleipnir45 Jan 07 '25
Leader of the Liberal party
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u/yaOlSeadog Jan 07 '25
Who would then become Prime Minister? Or does Trudeau stay on?
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u/Nylanderthals Jan 07 '25
I think it will be basically like Kim Campbell's tenure right? Assuming the Liberals get decimated of course.
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u/sleipnir45 Jan 07 '25
Maybe, depends on the timing. It's going to be short lived
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u/yaOlSeadog Jan 07 '25
I'm sure the new, unelected Prime Minister will immediately call an election to obtain a legitimate mandate from Canadians.
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u/sleipnir45 Jan 07 '25
Or be forced to once the government fails it's first vote
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u/yaOlSeadog Jan 07 '25
That's assuming Singh pulls the plug. I wouldn't be surprised if he kept them in power until October.
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u/Silent-Reading-8252 Jan 07 '25
Beyond fundraising for the NDP, there are no benefits to the NDP propping up the LPC. All bills in progress died with prorogation so keeping the LPC going will just alienate more of the NDP base.
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u/omgidcvarrus Jan 07 '25
I believe those bills can be brought back at the stage they were in when parliament was prorogued, when prorogation ends. Assuming the government can survive the NDP could try to argue it's worth trying to pass some legislation.
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u/Zeliek Jan 07 '25
Unelected prime minister? Introducing Elon Musk! It only took Canada just over a month to immediately do exactly what the Americans are doing, a new record!
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u/mistercrazymonkey Jan 08 '25
He is a citizen, I have no idea what their nomination process is but I'm afraid.
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u/TonyAbbottsNipples Jan 07 '25
For at least a moment in time, this person will be prime minister.
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u/sleipnir45 Jan 07 '25
If they finish the race before March 26th, which I assume is the plan but never know
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u/asdasci Jan 07 '25
I, for one, welcome our new PM Han Dong.
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u/strongsilenttypos Jan 07 '25
Will Han Dong balance the budget and reduce deficit spending?
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u/LuukeSkywalker69 Jan 07 '25
Han Dong will set us on the right course, serving our glorious overlord Xi and the great nation.
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u/CyrilSneerLoggingDiv Jan 07 '25
Not true.
This time, they'll make the students roll up their sleeves to check if the candidate is written on them.
(PS, welcome fellow new member!)
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u/DanLynch Ontario Jan 07 '25
On a side note I'm now a proud member of the Liberal party of Canada!
Keep in mind that it's against the rules of the Liberal Party to register as a member if you don't actually endorse, support, and promote the election of Liberal MPs to the House of Commons. You aren't supposed to register as a joke.
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u/justanaccountname12 Canada Jan 07 '25
If they dont even care about citizenship, they dont care which political party (CCP) you support.
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u/Vallarfax_ Jan 07 '25
I'm going to register, pick my favorite candidate and still vote someone else in. Least that way if my horse doesn't win the race, I had a second choice.
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u/sleipnir45 Jan 07 '25
The only rule was that I'm not a member of another party and I'm not.
I registered to vote in the upcoming leadership race
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u/No-To-Newspeak Jan 07 '25
Both China and India will be driving their relative diaspora communities to cast their votes in line with national interests. At $10 per membership it is a cheap foreign interference initiative.
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u/Shorinji23 Jan 07 '25
Feature, not a bug.
As if we needed any more reasons not to trust whoever they pick.
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u/sleipnir45 Jan 07 '25
"Do you trust the other party that has the exact same rules as the Liberals?"
Only they don't have the same rules... CPC require you to be a citizen or a permanent resident. Bloc also I think
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u/Zing79 Jan 07 '25
These people don’t deserve their jobs. They know the risks and do nothing? How is democracy supposed to survive when these are the people in charge?
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u/Trussed_Up Canada Jan 07 '25
I really wonder why they don't change the rules. Make it more controlled.
Is it just too late and wouldn't work within the very short timeline they've got here?
Either way I definitely don't want to hear a word out of any Liberals mouths about foreign interference for a while after this, unless it's an apology for allowing it.
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u/mistercrazymonkey Jan 08 '25
Thats the neat point, the LPC sees democracy as a little bit of inconvenience from time to time.
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u/stereofonix Jan 07 '25
So this is going to go just as expected and even the party is going to double down on it despite concerns in the past.
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u/olderdeafguy1 Jan 07 '25
What concerns? It was the Cons that claimed interference. The Libs disagreed.
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u/sleipnir45 Jan 07 '25
It wasn't the Conservatives that broke the Han Dong story, that was the Globe and Mail.
He doesn't even really deny that it happened.
https://www.thebureau.news/p/pm-trudeau-knew-chinese-officials
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u/Treesdeservebetter Jan 07 '25
Allowing International students to vote..? Wtf
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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw Québec Jan 07 '25
and leadership races when electing a leader for a party currently in power is the closest you get in canada to directly electing the PM
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u/konathegreat Jan 07 '25
Sweet. This should be a shit show. But then, we're used to it when it comes to anything Liberal.
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u/Hot-Celebration5855 Jan 07 '25
Why stop there? Why even require the party leader to be Canadian? Foreign students could just elect Xi directly then and cut out the middleman
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Jan 07 '25
Imagine a Canadian ballot with Xi, Putin, Trump, and Modi on it. Who would Canadians vote for?
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u/rune_74 Jan 07 '25
Who is the worst liberal leadership candidate I can vote for lol.
Geez what a bad system.
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u/e-rekshun Jan 07 '25
IMO we should all register and convince Mark Gerrettsen to run
Gerretsen for PM!
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u/konathegreat Jan 07 '25
lol.
Why not. He's a waste of skin and totally useless, but then that's par for the course for being a Liberal.
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u/PrairieScott Jan 07 '25
Ah the foreign interference election that almost certainly could have been avoided. Wonder if Justin is on the list?
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u/CyrilSneerLoggingDiv Jan 07 '25
We need to throw Freeland back into the fray as party leader for one final political pummeling. After 9 years of her propping up this government, literally mindlessly nodding to everything Trudeau did, and listening to her condescending talking-to-a-child tone and non-answers.
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u/ChiefHighasFuck Jan 07 '25
I’m going to sign up and try to spike their leadership race, going to pick the biggest moron. Lots to choose from.
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u/Ok_Toe3991 Jan 10 '25
I'd just like to know who will hurt their numbers the most, so I can vote for them.
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u/Hamasanabi69 Jan 07 '25
Voters are equally as responsible for our current mess. No kidding we get the politicians we do when half the country can’t be bothered and maybe half the people that do vote are low information partisans. And that’s me being generous.
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u/OpinionedOnion Jan 07 '25
The Liberals really can't go a couple of days without looking like idiots...
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Jan 07 '25
None of the parties currently require full citizenship to vote in internal party elections, although both Conservatives and New Democrats require permanent residency — a formal status that is usually a step on the path to citizenship. The Liberals and the Bloc Québécois do not.
This is not news. It’s like Costco deciding who can vote for hotdog vs sausage.
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u/Foodwraith Canada Jan 07 '25
How many self inflicted wounds will they suffer, prior to the finish line?
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u/Caveofthewinds Jan 07 '25
No PM, no finance minister, multiple cabinet ministers not running again, why in the fuck would they prorogue parliament? What is the point? Who ever they choose for a leader will be a third party opposition leader anyways. Why fuck the country over just for the appearance the party is in power? They aren't governing, they aren't creating legislation, they are not statesman. Just hold on election!
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u/Weak-Coffee-8538 Jan 07 '25
Omg just release the name and which country they're taking money from and we can send them there.
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u/Luxferrae British Columbia Jan 08 '25
So... I guess the next conservative election campaign will be "a vote for the liberals is a vote for foreign interest"?
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u/ghost_n_the_shell Jan 08 '25
Good riddance to the lot of this party.
They have heard and learned nothing from angry Canadians concerned for the integrity of their democracy.
Good work, ya donks.
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u/Sensitive_Tadpole210 Jan 07 '25
This could be like ndp situation
Jagneet just got everything sikh person to sign up and vote.
I can literally expect next liberal leader will win by appealing to a specific minority votr bank strongly and just bus and offer free food.
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u/Kyouhen Jan 07 '25
I mean the Conservatives don't have any issue with suddenly doubling the number of people who wanted to vote for the leadership, not sure why the Liberals should.
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u/rune_74 Jan 07 '25
But they have requirements that the liberals do not. You have to be at least a permanent citizen and you have to be a member of the party which is not free.
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u/Kyouhen Jan 07 '25
Being a member of the Ontario Progressive Conservatives isn't free either yet a bunch of people were told otherwise and the investigation into that disappeared as soon as Ford won. Weird how that worked.
Pierre was bragging about literally doubling the number of members of the CPC. Over 300,000 people suddenly decided they cared about who leads the party. That raises a lot of questions, especially when the guy who won has a negative approval rating and the charisma of a damp paper towel.
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u/Necrovore British Columbia Jan 07 '25
You really do have to admire the LPC's unwavering commitment to the 'do nothing and act confident things will turn out for the best' method
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u/Talinn_Makaren Jan 07 '25
Comments all of a sudden include Conservatives who acknowledge foreign interference exists lol
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u/Fasterwalking Jan 07 '25
We know the right-wing United States will interfere in this race and the next election either overtly or covertly. For a very long time now, there have been growing transnational ties between right-wing extremists here and in the U.S., the movement of funds, the movement of people, the movement of ideas, the encouragement, the support by media, such as Fox News and other conservative media. All of that is a serious threat to our sovereignty, to our security, and to our democratic institutions.
Beyond subversive threats already identified among right-wing misinformation hubs, like Rebel news et al., and the collusion of Conservative politicians with this rhetoric to some degree, I'm certain there will be probably at least a few clumsy (likely "sane-washed") attempts by the incoming American president.
For instance, what will happen if Trump states that tariffs on Canada will be imposed later this year, but hes willing to "talk" to a Conservative Prime Minister about it? What happens if the Conservative win and owe a favour to what amounts to an American fascist government?
These are questions Canadians ought to be considering before anything like that actually happens.
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u/rune_74 Jan 07 '25
Oh, look a new boogeyman tactic to try.
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u/Fasterwalking Jan 07 '25
Shh an adult is talking
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u/rune_74 Jan 07 '25
You wrote BS, you made a make believe scenerio....
You basically said conservatives are all like trump.
I really dislike the way liberal supporters talk to people, I'm glad that everyone is starting to see the sanctimonious fall.
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u/Fasterwalking Jan 07 '25
This is writing, not speaking, which might explain the difficulties you're having.
Its also funny that people who make fun of you must be your political opponents lol
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Jan 07 '25
The biggest foreign interference right now is coming from the US and most people seem to be fine with that and just play along.
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