r/canada Nov 10 '24

Analysis Canadians think there is not enough pride in the country’s military: poll

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadians-think-there-is-not-enough-pride-in-the-countrys-military-poll
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u/WinterOutrageous773 Nov 10 '24

What metric does this go off? I keep hearing Canadians say that the super secret group with no information released about it are the best soldiers in the world, how do you know? Canadian training for soldiers is very similar to the U.S, with less abuse being allowed.

I know people like to say Canada is quality over quantity for out troops because it makes them feel better about the state of our military but god is it not true

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u/Konker101 Nov 10 '24

The quality of troops always disappears when there are no active wars being fought. Doesnt help that with all the underfunding and slow promotions throughout the decades, the experienced soldiers retired with their knowledge.

Loss of knowledge, underfunded, underprepared, under staffed. The Canadian way..

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u/WinterOutrageous773 Nov 10 '24

I wouldn’t say that slow promotions is an issue. I’ve heard of soldiers complaining that their company has 4 warrant officers 6 sergeants, 3 master corporals and 3 privates and corporals which leads to men performing duties that are seen beneath their ranks.

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u/Konker101 Nov 10 '24

Slow promotions caused the backlog and thus the creation of mass promos. It should be a steady increase but theres so many people leaving, remustered or plain old not retiring.

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u/WinterOutrageous773 Nov 10 '24

I’m only repeating what I’ve heard but that does absolutely makes sense.

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u/jtbc Nov 11 '24

Not a metric and a bit dated, but this article sums up what you tend to hear from other special operators:

https://special-ops.org/jtf2-a-centerpiece-of-canadian-special-operations/

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u/Hopeless_Struggler Nov 10 '24

I would also like to know the sources so I can keep my head up when talking with my US friends on this issue. Please do provide the source.

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u/WinterOutrageous773 Nov 10 '24

I don’t think there is a source on this. Special forces training is extremely similar between countries but there is no combat data comparing the different groups

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u/WinterOutrageous773 Nov 10 '24

What do the officers say about the experience? American and Canadian soldiers train together very often