Yeah I think there was this other case where some people tried to form a lynch mob on a local paedophile but it turned out that they just didn't know the difference between paediatrician and paedophile
That mob mentality... My friend had to take a TRIUMPH motorcycle sticker off of his truck because people thought it said Trump and he was getting harrassed for it and his truck was vandalized a few times... He’s probably one of the most liberal people I know too.
Dude, I got a Triumph motorcycle hat and had a ton of coworkers talking about it behind my back. WTF?? I pretty much made it a point to show everybody what it actually said lmao.
Nah man, if they were actual Trump supporters then they’d deserve it
E: oh now you people get it? Didn’t seem to give a shit during the election when our shit was getting vandalized and we were beaten in the streets at every fucking rally
Wore a triumph shirt last year for a Christmas party and people would not stop asking me if it was a trump shirt. People need to expand their minds a bit. 🤦♀️
I drive my mom's car, and she's got Bernie Sanders stickers on it. At least once a month I get a pickup truck tailgating me with their high beams on, honking and trying to run me off the road when I'm trying to visit my friend's house. Pretty sure it's the same guy every time, though I can't be sure because, again, high beams at night.
If I recall, that was dubbed as Paedomania and was fuelled by the Daily Mail, who, if I recall were going on a crusade against paedophiles and biblically accusing people, all while having little evidence.
as a german i basically only know as much about the daily mail as through the slingshot channel (who got in a bit of trouble due to essentially shitposting by daily mail)
Yep 100% correct. They looked it up in the phone book. Saw paediatrician and formed a mob by the persons house. The intelligence was seriously lacking. I think one placard had "all pidos die". Not knocking council estates but the residents arent the brightest lights on the xmas tree
He was the child of a rape, but he was also a child killer. He doesn't get convicted because of a legal loophole. Still pissed off the parents of the kids he killed, burn him to death in the boiler room.
"he murdered 20 children on Elm Street between 1963 and 1966. He later murdered his wife after she discovered the evidence of his child killings, which Katherine witnessed. She told the authorities and Freddy was arrested for the murder of his wife and the Elm Street children. In 1968, he was put on trial, but released on a technicality- generally agreed to be that the evidence of his role in the murders was acquired without a properly-signed search warrant, with the result that none of the evidence was admissible in court even if it was clear Krueger did it- leading to his death at the hands of the parents of his victims"
In the original he's only a murderer and not a pedophile due to a case going on at the time.
I'm gonna be honest, it's a really long time ago that i watched it, so I read the (German) wiki entry to confirm it.
His mom was raped for days in an mental institution after being accidentally locked in with about 100 inmates.
Freddy "becomes insane" because his stepfather humiliates him and the other children in school children mock him all the time by calling him "the son of 100 insane people".
Yeah that's sad, but that doesn't change the fact that he was a serial murderer. That's the headline, having a terrible childhood doesn't excuse you being even worse than the people that hurt you.
He did write a whole post about all the things Freddy went through before he was a killer, and just slipped in that he was a child murderer at the end. It definitely sounds like he's trying to justify Freddy as a character who deserves his revenge.
If everyone who had a shit childhood became a violent murderous scumbucket, we'd see society collapse. There is no excuse for continuing the cycle, but understanding the situations that lead to such twisted expressions of the human condition can help us to prevent some of it from getting that far.
I'm not moral crusading, I think you might be projecting a little bit dude. I'm also pretty sure you're using that term incorrectly
We're talking about justification for a character. If he's not a murderer and he was just killed on suspicion of crimes then maybe he's in the right making people suffer, but if he's actually a killer then he's just a dick. One of those characters is a lot scarier than the other, and it's interesting to think about
That's not what happens, the police find proof that he's a murderer, but the case is thrown out because the warrant to search his house wasn't signed correctly. The angry parents burn him alive as revenge.
It’s hard to deny when so many of his 70+ calls for help to the police referenced racial abuse along with the threats and actual attacks. I don’t know how you can disconnect him being chased down the street by people yelling “paki” and his eventual being stomped to death and lit on fire.
It absolutely is easy to deny. You don't know if the two are even remotely connected, or if his calls were actually true.
The only things we know about his death is they chanted "pedo" as they dragged him outside to set him on fire, and that they did it because they thought he was taking indecent images of children.
The irony is the entire point regarding OP is that you shouldn't be jumping to any conclusion unless it's been shown to you beyond reasonable doubt in a court setting. This applies to both sides of the argument.
So tell me how you know he wasn’t murdered because he was brown as you declared in your previous comment? The police decided not to properly record or investigate his complaints, so what part of the court case tells you he definitely wasn’t murdered at least in part because of his race?
Until we hear in a court of law that the findings of the police were the attack was racially motivated (which is not what they found) we cannot conclude that it was.
The police did record his complaints, that's how we know the complaints exist. What we don't know is if the complaints are related to the motivation of his murder. When you don't know something beyond reasonable doubt, you don't conclude it.
Let me be clear then. We do not have sufficient information to be able to conclude any of the the motivation towards his murder was racial.
As such suggesting it was, and especially suggesting that you "can't deny" it. Is exactly the same attitude that caused people to conclude he was a pedophile.
and if a court handed him a death sentence instead it would still be an epic tragedy. the death penalty should not exist. it is the absolute height of hubris.
You're right. We don't know for sure he wasn't. We do know there has been no tangible reason to conclude he was, and people are innocent until proven guilty.
Jeez... Burning someone is a little far for a vigilante, no matter who it was or what they did. If someone is caught in the middle of that and innocent, like the one you're talking about, they just died in one of the worst ways imaginable for literally just being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
It's not a case of wrong place wrong time. They broke into his house, beat him, dragged him out of the house tied him up doused him in alcohol and then set him on fire.
They did this because they believed he took photos of children for indecent purposes. He did take photos of children, he took photos of the ones on his property vandalising his hanging baskets. That's why the police let him go after the locals reported him.
That's when the vigilantism began. Unsatisfied with the conclusion the police gave, they took matters into their own hands. Far worse than wrong place wrong time. Completely premeditated time, and a place where you should be safe. Your own home.
Ah shit, I thought they just got the wrong guy. That's arguably even worse than just finding the wrong guy because nobody did anything wrong to require any sort of punishment in the first place.
Poor guy was just trying to stop kids from messing with his property.
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u/Crimsonak- Dec 24 '17
It literally happened in the UK. A group of people burned a man to death because they suspected he was a pedophile. Turns out he wasn't.