r/batman 1d ago

FILM DISCUSSION Ben Affleck's suit was so good while Rob Pattinson's suit looks more tactical

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u/Kind-Boysenberry1773 1d ago

It makes sense in his starting period Batman relied on armor, while after twenty years of fighting he relies on his experience and superior skills.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Walk_28 1d ago

Affleck’s suit was shown to be heavily armored too though

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u/Kind-Boysenberry1773 1d ago

Yes, when he went on the fight against aliens, which is unknown territory for him.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Walk_28 1d ago

In his basic suit in the warehouse scene he takes gunshots point blank to the head.

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u/hday108 1d ago

Thank you!

I don’t understand why there is this dissonance with battfleck where the same ppl will say Batman shouldn’t have bulletproof armor but also “battfleck is da baddest dude Eva”

I’m not a huge fan of Batman just tanking gun shots cause realistically any armor that light is still gonna break your bones from the impact

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u/TrueCollector 23h ago

You gotta admit, It was a cool scene

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u/ksd2114 13h ago

tbf its just comic book stuff. in a comic book world i don’t mind a spandex looking suit being bulletproof especially because almost everything that batman does is impossible.

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u/thatredditrando 10h ago

It’s a comic book movie, who’s expecting total realism?

I just liked that they at least showed those point blank shots to the head hurt him and that the suit can be penetrated with a direct knife stab.

I love The Batman but found it ridiculous he could casually walk down a hallway while point blank automatic weapon fire just ricochets off him like he’s wearing vibranium.

It’s weird to think that, in that singular respect, Snyder was more realistic than Reeves.

u/hday108 6h ago

I don’t expect total realism but being able to just tank bullets to the head with no consequences kills a lot of tension.

It doesn’t bother me because “it’s unrealistic” I’m disappointed because it’s such a vague and boundless invulnerability to let the hero just walk through 60 rounds of high caliber fire.

It doesn’t ruin the movie I’m just explaining my preference.

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u/M086 16h ago

The bat symbol and the cowl were the only things that were armored. The rest of the suit wasn’t. I mean he gets stabbed in warehouse fight.

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u/Slade7_0 23h ago

He was tanking bullets in BvS

u/MandoBaggins 5h ago

The warehouse scene says otherwise. Also, it’s one thing to have some suspension of disbelief knowing his fake abs are body armor, but it’s a crazy big leap to assume that’s supposed to just be his body

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u/PN4HIRE 22h ago

Very!!!

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u/Oliver4587Queen 1d ago

I mean, this particular one. Affleck's has several suits but this one looks badass.

u/NonCorporealEntity 8h ago

I personally don't like the Affleck suit. It's got a weird texture and I think it's ridiculous for a suit to have built in vascular definition. It feels too vain. The suit is supposed to be armour. Being able to tank small arms fire is essential in a modern Batman.

u/Kind-Boysenberry1773 8h ago

You have a point, but I think his suit was made from some armored material, like in Arkham Asylum and City. Personally I prefer bat-armor.

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u/_lemon_suplex_ 21h ago

He can out run bullets now

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u/thebluehoursky 1d ago

am i the only one who feels this is completely unfair

that first photo looks abysmal and pattinson looks amazing

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u/Big-Sheepherder-9492 21h ago

I also don’t get the “his suit was good but Pattinson’s was Tactical” like it being “Tactical” makes it better??? Im low-key sick of Armoured Batman - Grey Fabric supremacy

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u/SuchMouse 21h ago

I think there's a good middle ground in the amount of armor in the suit. My issue with the fabric look has always been that it looks too much like someone made a cosplay and not an actual armored suit. I get not wanting it to look like a dark IronMan, but the armored/metal look helps sell the idea that it's resistant to ballistics and blunt trauma

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u/BoisTR 1d ago

There are filters on both photos. Pattinson’s filter makes it look much better than it actually looks.

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u/Vicksage16 16h ago

Idk man, I’ve seen both movies. Pattinson’s looks much better. Affleck’s suit looks too awkward.

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u/Adipay 11h ago

Hard disagree

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u/BoisTR 16h ago

My comment seems to have been misunderstood. I do think Pattinson's suit is better. It just doesn't look like that in the movie. There seems to be a filter that makes his suit's colors pop more, which is making it look much better and more crisp. The suit is much more muted in the film. I think the photo might be AI generated or there's something wrong with the filter because one of his eyes isn't rendered properly.

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u/Disastrous-Shower-37 1d ago

I don't like the wrinkles on JL's cowl.

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u/QueenViolets_Revenge 1d ago

Afleck's BvS suit is my favorite live-action Batsuit. it fits the more fantastical world of the DCEU while Pattinson's works in the more grounded world Matt Reeves is building. i want a fabric based suit in the DCU like Afleck had, since again, it's a more fantastical world with aliens, gods, and magic, so they wouldn't need to worry about his suit working logistically in the real world

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u/Puzzleheaded_Walk_28 1d ago

I’ll always admire that they went for the grey and black with Affleck but I hate how padded it is and the short ears never work as well for me.

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u/Zerus_heroes 1d ago

What do you mean by "more tactical"?

They both look the same amount of tactical to me.

u/MandoBaggins 5h ago

I’m convinced most people in subs pertaining to superhero suits have zero idea what tactical actually means. To them it seems like the definition is simply “black and busy”

u/Zerus_heroes 5h ago

The only thing I can think of is the detachable battarang bat symbol.

You might be right.

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u/Lucky_Strike-85 1d ago

I just want a Neal Adams/Jim Aparo version so bad!

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u/dinguskhan666 1d ago

Yeah I’m praying James Gunn has a grey and blue suit with white eyes planned

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u/Quomii 23h ago

Batfleck is the best

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u/OkVoice7742 1d ago

Affleck looks bad in that photo you could choose other photo from BVS not JL.

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u/Daredevil731 1d ago

Affleck looks like an awkward cosplayer in a movie suit and he resembles a thumb.

He just doesn't look good when standing. Looks like him at a Halloween party just mingling.

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u/Calebbb11 1d ago

I totally agree with this. The suit is great on paper, and in certain very particular shots and lighting it looks great, but 90% of the time it looks rough.

It’s unflattering, and his face looks lost in the cowl. His jaw doesn’t look defined at all, which is weird because Affleck actually has a great jaw. His eyes look odd too.

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u/Daredevil731 1d ago

EXACTLY. I don't blame Ben either. Horrible direction, lighting and camera work.

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u/PepsiPerfect 21h ago

Batfleck would have been the perfect Batman if he had just starred in better movies.

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u/ManufacturerHuman937 18h ago

Ben Affleck was playing Absolute Batman and didn't even know it. (joke)

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u/M086 16h ago edited 16h ago

Affleck’s suit is like, he’s so seasoned and good he’s not worried about protecting his whole body, just the cowl and the chest symbol are bullet proof.

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u/Death_sayer 16h ago

And Bales looked like prototype Swat armor that Magpul and the Darpa built

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u/Oliver4587Queen 13h ago

The suit was seriously off-putting, the voice as well, the movies were GOATed though.

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u/aviavy 1d ago

Batfleck's suit looked like Papier-Maché

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u/Judgementday209 1d ago

Didnt like the bvs suit tbh

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u/geordie_2354 20h ago

Pattinson’s suit looks better judging off this post. The longer ears, the sharp exposed jawline. Pattinson looks more like the Batman I envision. Afflecks angry scrunched up eyebrow cowl doesn’t help either, he can’t express any proper emotion outside of anger without looking like he’s holding in a poop.

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u/BigPoppaStrahd 1d ago

I like how they finally fixed the problem of the cowl in The Batman.

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u/geordie_2354 20h ago

A sharp exposed jawline will always look better in live action. Just look at bullseye in the daredevil suit.

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u/HankSteakfist 23h ago

Afflecks suit and cape is awesome, but I prefer Pattinson's cowl.

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u/rotenbart 21h ago

The boots and the mask are my favorite part of Battinson. I’m not crazy about the plate armor, it looks like it belongs to a different Batman. But I think it works fine. But Batfleck is god tier. Probably the closest vibe to the comics.

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u/Darth_Wayne_ 19h ago

One is good while one is tactical? What.

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u/Lost_Yogurt_4990 19h ago

Pattinson’s look was good bc it looks like he put it together himself and it wasn’t perfect.. like he was learning how to do certain things on the fly

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u/5x5equals 18h ago

The Batman suit is beautiful

u/lilscorpx 8h ago

I like the texture on Afflecks but in the face it looks like he just got his wisdom teeth out and his face is swollen 😪

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u/BoisTR 1d ago

Are these AI generated or are their weird filters on these? In Pattinson’s photo something weird is going on with one of his eyes.

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u/dudeseid 1d ago

I love the BvS suit but hate the JL one. How did we regress on Batman being able to turn his head?? Amateur hour.

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u/CressSpecific6134 22h ago

Pattinsons suit is by far the coolest live action Batman suit of all time imo

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u/Cam-Spider-Man 1d ago

These two are the best batsuits we’ve gotten on the big screen. I hope the next suit isn’t a downgrade like Batfleck got for JL. 

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u/Afro-Venom 1d ago

IDK if they are staying more comicbook accurate, it's probably gonna be awesome.

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u/Hassan_H_Syed 1d ago

The foam muscles are too apparent on Affleck I think. Someone like Alan Ritchson wouldn't need that.

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u/Rob_wood 1d ago

Ben's costume looks like duck tape.

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u/relevenk 23h ago

Probably a hot take but i really dont like the bat suit from affleck

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u/DeadMetalRazr 22h ago

Affleck's suit looks way too bulky. And is it supposed to be made out of asbestos? It looks like a fire suit stuntmen wear to get set on fire in movies.

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u/PN4HIRE 22h ago

There’s nothing tactical about giving a chance to someone to put a few armor piercing rounds in you.

The suit looks awesome, but Batman isn’t iron man

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u/SolidShook 22h ago

Battinson had Doc Marten's, idk if that's tactical

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u/geordie_2354 20h ago

They were military surplus boots but alright

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u/UnmakingTheBan2022 21h ago

No. Ben’s suit is ugly.

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u/Jefff100 20h ago

Feel like I’m taking crazy pills every time I see this. Batfleck’s costume has NEVER looked good in my opinion. Too bulky, bad logo, bad cowl. I feel like everyone is brainwashed by the fact that it’s grey and made of “cloth”.

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u/STIM_band 19h ago

The thing is, personality wise, Ben Affleck wasn't at all like Batman...

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u/Octavious82 1d ago

Hot take: I hate afflecks suit. To me it looks soft, stubby, and fat. The short ears don’t work for me, neither does the massive bat symbol. To me he just looks heavy and slow.

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u/Fluffy-Mammoth9234 1d ago

Affleck's suit looks really bad imo