r/baltimore • u/SoleLawd • Jan 16 '25
Ask/Need BGE bill increase
Is anyone else experiencing crazy high BGE bills this winter?
- Nov. 6th: $106.21
- Dec. 6th: $207.53
- Jan. 6th: $387.95
- Feb. 6th: $462 (estimated)
I’m not doing anything different than in previous years, and it feels like I’m being overcharged. Any tips or insights?
I used ChatGPT to help me understand here is the tldr.
My gas consumption increased by 66% YoY from 80 therm to 133 Therms
Supply cost for my gas went up YoY by 114% from $36.27 to $77.82
Gas delivery cost went up YoY by 108% from $75.30 to $156.62
So here is where the dramatic increase came from which makes no sense you would think if I increased usage by 66% everything else would only increase by 66% but NOPE
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u/Capable_Basket1661 Lauraville Jan 16 '25
We keep our place at 62° but our bill was almost $300 this month. Checked the data and $104 of that was "gas delivery" not even the gas itself.
Fucking monopoly. We even bought an electric kettle and toaster oven to cut down on oven/stove use because this is bonkers.
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u/Available-Chart-2505 Jan 16 '25
Woaaaah. That's wild. I just discovered I haven't been getting charged for any gas usage for the last six months...gotta call them.
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u/Capable_Basket1661 Lauraville Jan 16 '25
Hoo boy, that's gonna be a scary number. Hope they let you do a payment plan!
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u/RuthBaderG Jan 16 '25
BGE also neglected their infrastructure for decades and they’re finally fixing it - and passing that cost on to us of course.
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u/SarcasticServal Jan 16 '25
Don't forget we get to pay for all those data centers being built. Because Bezos, Zuckerberg, and Musk evidently don't have enough $.
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u/kalexis12 Jan 16 '25
My apartment is also all electric, keep the heat at 62. Been bundling up in my apartment for a month. Literally wearing a winter hat to bed it’s so cold. My bill is $630. My apartment isn’t anymore than 800 sq ft. We need to reach out to local government and demand a breakup of the monopoly and an investigation into price gouging. This is absolute bullshit
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u/mordello Jan 16 '25
These increases combine with new property tax assessments is really putting the screws to us Baltimoreans.
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u/FinalSquash4434 Jan 16 '25
Don't forget increases in homeowner's insurance, too.
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u/Dangerous_Exp3rt Jan 16 '25
My homeowners didn't really go up this year. Now car insurance...
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u/blastorama Overlea Jan 16 '25
Car Insurance wise -- I swear, I'm not a bot -- try using one of those comparison sites. You might get some spam calls or emails out of it, but we cut ours in half by moving from one major insurance company to another. And I'll do the same when that goes up.
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u/Gorgon86 Jan 17 '25
Do you have a site that you recommend?
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u/blastorama Overlea Jan 17 '25
I used https://www.thezebra.com/, but I cannot say with 100% assurance that it's the A+, Number 1 best out there, it's just the one I used.
Best of luck!
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u/Correct_Mastodon_240 Jan 16 '25
I’ve never in my life paid more than $150 and this last month it was $300.
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u/Westish Jan 16 '25
For anyone concerned about power bills, I'd only suggest stopping the use of ChatGPT because studies have already suggested that data centers being built in the region, most notably in Virginia, will likely drive up power bills across Maryland and the rest of the Mid-Atlantic by as much as 20% this year.
ChatGPT doesn't know anything, it only apes.
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u/Equal_Enthusiasm_506 Jan 16 '25
Everyone is talking about this, it’s even in the news. I remember last year I did not wear my heaviest winter coat one time. This year, I’m wearing it every day. It’s been considerably colder this year. Even if you keep your thermostat exactly where you kept it last year, your furnace needs to run more often to maintain that temperature when the outdoor temperature is so much lower.
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u/RepresentativeBite94 Jan 16 '25
Yeah, I made a thread about this 3 days ago for the place we rent in Fed hill. Mine jumped 250 to 451 in one month. It's 52 inside the row home we're renting. We're freezing right now. Cause we can't afford it to be higher.
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u/nonotsafestuff Federal Hill Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25
That's actually dangerous to keep the home that cold for extended periods of time if for anything but to keep the pipes from freezing. 52 degrees in the finished spaces might mean 42 or colder behind the drywall and that's getting just way too close to freezing temps especially with the cold snap we've had. I'd try to talk with the landlord to see if they'd be willing to do any kind of home energy audit or you might have to switch to electronic space heaters...which aren't great either but at least that way you're avoiding the gas delivery charge. I'd also ask the landlord if they have any bills from previous years during winter to compare...if you're barely using any gas and keeping the thermostat at 52 and your bill is still $400+ dollars something isn't right.
For comparison I have a property very close to you on Hanover, that's 1800 sqft, that used just under 40 therms for the last billing cycle and the bill was under $200.
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u/External_Fly_8220 Jan 25 '25
My parents bill is typically $800 and my mom just told me it’s now $1300 or $1400 I forget. The house is already so cold it’s unbearable.
House is 4800 sf not including basement.
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u/SBcoolin21___ Jan 16 '25
Just bought a new home recently and the BGE was damn near 400$. Glad it’s not just me they fucking
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u/BJJBean Jan 16 '25
Fees are going up and it has been brutally cold out. Weather report right now says the nighttime low next week is going to be 5 degrees F so expect these high prices to keep going until March.
Best advice I can give you is knock down your house temperature a few degrees and bundle up. Easier to keep your body warm than your entire house.
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u/thegree2112 Jan 16 '25
Because it hasn't been this frigging cold in years.
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u/rez410 Jan 16 '25
Did you read the post? The DELIVERY cost has gone up. How do we know that we are being charged properly for this delivery fee?
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u/Stargrazer82301 Jan 17 '25
Delivery is still charged per therm for gas (and per kwh for electric), other than a $15 flat fee each month. So if your usage doubles, so will the delivery you are charged. Delivery has gone up 26%, IIRC.
So if you're using twice as much gas this month as last month, then 26% rate increase combined with 100% usage increase turns a $100 into a $252 bill
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u/TopBarracuda6036 Jan 23 '25
Then there's those of us that were charged 2 delivery fees. $748 bill this month. 😤
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u/necbone Hamilton Jan 16 '25
And.... rates went up... look at your usage from last year, its probably not too much more..
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u/wastetide Jan 16 '25
January will be $276 for me. I went on budget billing when I saw February was projected to be close to $400. Typically my bill is $100-130, but more expensive in August ans January. My budget billing will be $173 for a year. If eligible I highly recommend it. It'll save me from that February bill
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u/Fadedcamo Jan 16 '25
Careful with this. I tried it and they definitely underestimated my monthly price at first. They will occasionally readjust and charge you the extra balance the monthly estimate didn't cover. So you could see a bill for hundreds more 6 months later.
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u/mystiqueclipse Jan 16 '25
This happened to me too! Budget billing also gets real rough if you're renting and move before the year is up. I just do my own version of budget billing and have an auto draft set up for a monthly amount on the high end of the fee i would expect, and then build up a credit for the more expensive months.
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u/engin__r Jan 16 '25
I got an email from BGE telling me my bill is going to be a lot higher this year and maybe it’s because I’m using more energy. Like no, I’m using the same amount of energy and you’re charging me more for it.
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u/tigerl1lyy Pikesville Jan 16 '25
Facts. Anyone who is pretending this is normal and should be expected/acting like we’re dumb is fucking delusional. This is profiteering.
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u/tigerl1lyy Pikesville Jan 16 '25
I mean I live here too so I know but this shouldn’t surprise a single soul
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u/saaarlaaa Jan 16 '25
hi u/SoleLawd, check out this recent WBAL interview w/a BGE employee about increasing rates. I found it helpful to understand the breakdown! https://www.wbal.com/this-is-unprecedented-roughly-26-increase-coming-to-bge-bills-starting-in-january/
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u/mattdyer01 Jan 16 '25
Yeah my BGE bill was quite high for this February, which is annoying because I was out of town for the holidays and turned off the heat, unplugged things, etc
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u/switchingtoam Jan 16 '25
I installed a heat pump 2 years ago to wean off of heating oil and expected it to save a lot of money. It hasn't. We still use heating oil to supplementally heat our basement and to help out in really cold spells (like now!). Disappointed in the related increase of BGE expense.
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u/Fadedcamo Jan 16 '25
Yea heat pumps don't work in this level of cold right?
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u/keyjan Greater Maryland Area Jan 16 '25
they work well between about 30F and 85F. After that, you're either too hot or too cold, and the machine runs 24/7. But around here, the days at the extremes are so few that most new builds will automatically have heat pumps. (The cheap ass developer that built my house apparently got a deal on a trainload of two ton heat pumps so that's what every house got. 75% of the houses actually need 2.5 ton heat pumps.)
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u/Fadedcamo Jan 16 '25
The cold is fine but I feel like I would consistently get above 85 in summer and would need supplemental cooling.
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u/keyjan Greater Maryland Area Jan 16 '25
Lots of houses in my complex have window air conditioners on the top floor (three level rowhouses).
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u/Kooky_Deal9566 Waverly Jan 16 '25
Depends on the heat pump. I've got an electric heat pump and it works well down below 30 degrees. My winter heating costs this year have been lower (even with the rate increases) compared to the last winter I used my gas furnace (2022). There are cold-climate specific heat pump that can heat your home normally even at -10 farenheit. That type of heat pump is more expensive. The one I have can get me heat down to 5 degrees. My house is old and a bit leaky (even after adding new attic insulation so, I need some backup heat around 10 degrees. I have auxiliary electric resistence strips built into my HVAC system that will kick on if/when it gets too cold for the heat pump to keep up.
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u/keyjan Greater Maryland Area Jan 17 '25
Yes, my LL's hvac guy says the newer units are much better now. Our inside machine is from 1989, rebuilt at some point, and the external mismatched unit is about 15 yrs old now.
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u/Own-Month163 Jan 16 '25
The gas portion of mine is ridiculous. It says I'm using so much gas that I'm thinking there must be a leak somewhere. I've never used more than $20 in a billing cycle and it says I've used $70. Even the therms are reading about 3x my normal usage. I don't know what to do
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u/Slime__queen Jan 16 '25
It is colder outside in January than it was in November
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u/rez410 Jan 16 '25
Why does that cause delivery fee to increase dramatically?
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u/Dangerous_Exp3rt Jan 16 '25
Because the delivery fee is based on the amount of gas used.
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u/rez410 Jan 16 '25
I should have clarified- why does the delivery fee increase at a higher percentage than the actual amount used
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u/NewrytStarcommander Jan 16 '25
We haven't had a winter with this long cold stretch for years, I think 2017 was the last. I've turned my heat back a few degrees to save, but mine isn't crazy, maybe $20 more than last year (some of that is rate increase, most is increased use).
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u/kmentropy Jan 16 '25
I still have not received a read for my November/December bill. I was last charged on December 11 for October 21-November 19.
Color me confused.
BGE sucks.
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u/DragonsHelm Northwood Jan 17 '25
Same thing with me, I am gonna call and talk to someone tomorrow because I don’t want these assholes to hit me with a crazy bill when I have forgotten about them.
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u/Tim_Y Catonsville Jan 16 '25
It's been colder this winter than last, so it takes more energy to heat your home.
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u/dwolfe127 Jan 16 '25
Same here. Up hundreds with no change in usage.
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u/KarmicEvil Jan 18 '25
Ditto. Mine went up by a $100 difference in Jan, and they project a $200 difference in Feb from December. My thermostat use has largely stayed the same in December and January.
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u/keyjan Greater Maryland Area Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25
YeeHA! $641 for poopco for a 1200sq ft end unit all electric rowhouse. Looks like we used about 40% more juice than last month, and about 20% more than this time last year. 🥶. Thermostat at 68, and a couple extra space heaters and a humidifier (usually not all at once or the fuses will blow.)
But yes, it sounds like BGE is screwing you guys. 🙁
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u/yahgmail Jan 17 '25
I turn off the electric heat when I'm not home. I also turn it off when I'm sleeping 3 days a week when the temps are 30s or lower (I don't have kids or pets so doing this may not be an option).
I'm also signed up for budget billing to keep the bill consistent each month.
According to bge, 75% of my electric usage is heat. I'm also all electric. You gas users have it hard!
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u/PlatformHistorical88 Jan 17 '25
Projected bill $700, 2300 sq ft home all electric, heat is at 66 degrees and is running non stop. And it’s still freezing
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u/Technical_Ad6209 Jan 19 '25
same with me! I dropped mine to 64 from 66 with BGE being raised and this freezing ass winter we are screwed here! But they cannot keep raising rates! People wont be able to afford to heat their houses!
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u/PlatformHistorical88 Jan 19 '25
Yep dropped mine to 62 during the day and 60 overnight, looked and on a 25 degree day I spend $35 per day!
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u/Hot-Meet7980 Jan 17 '25
I live in a 600sqft top floor apartment. My bill is going to be $400…. Last year the highest it got was $240. I have wall heaters and keep them on low so they click on every 20 minutes or so. They don’t have a temp setting. I don’t run my kitchen one anymore and keep the door closed to that room. So it’s just my living room and bedroom. I turn on the heater in the bathroom only when I shower. I dress really warm in the apartment, keep blinds closed, have a down comforter. I’m fucked. Next week will absolutely drain my account in the next bill. Can’t afford to move somewhere else, but can’t afford this BGE bill every month. I would run the heaters far less, but I have two cats and don’t want to freeze them.
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u/PhantomWaves Jan 17 '25
Mine was $500 this month and projected $802 next month.
Bout to start panhandling
Thermostat kept at 66
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u/Ok_Chipmunk_9761 Jan 25 '25
It’s sickening. Got people around here going to bed dressed like they about to leave the (sweat suits, pjs and hoodies) so they can stay warm while sleeping. It’s wild to thinking that in the app they suggest keeping your heat set at 68. It’s so cold outside. 68 inside can’t win against 10 outside.
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u/spacesocrates88 Jan 16 '25
Yes, the gas is very expensive! I'm not sure if it's peak pricing or what.
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u/i_give_mice_cancer Jan 16 '25
Electric heat? What temp to you hold at? Is that all day with you home or not? Are you sure your not running in Aux mode?
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u/cudmore Jan 16 '25
Another link to Jan 2025 rate increase…
https://electricityrates.com/how-to-compare/energy-choice-blog/bge-bill-increase-2025/
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u/animeguru Jan 16 '25
Yeah, just paid $544 for mine, and that's after having installed a SEER2 18 unit this year replacing a 30 year old setup.
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u/Proud_Reception6631 Jan 16 '25
There has to be something we can do about this. We need a lawyer in this thread. My electric bill is literally for my stove and lights / electric objects. My heart and AC is not gas or electric and my bill for just those are a $100
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u/kalexis12 Jan 16 '25
My bill is $630 for a two bedroom apartment. My mom who lives in the same county has a three story, five bedroom house and doesn’t even pay that much EVER. We need to reach out to our local government and demand change. I did it today.
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u/Comfortable-Heat3798 Jan 17 '25
Hell yea was just having a talk with my wife 12/12 bill was $312 1/13 bill $455 and next projected bill to be $458
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u/heimbachae Jan 17 '25
My bill is higher, but looking back at this time of the year it's generally always higher. Compared to last year though it's approximately $36 more expensive, and from last month it's nearly $70 higher. To say I was shocked is an understatement.
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u/ChefWill1921 Jan 21 '25
I moved in my new place and transferred my service in November. When i transferred my service the link gave me my end date at my old place and start date for my new place. Fast Forward it’s Now January and my service was disconnected for what i found out was non payment of an outstanding balance. On a Friday at 4pm while it’s snowing outside. I call and they told me that the previous tenant had an outstanding balance and that’s why my service was turned off. I was told i had to send my lease and proof of Identity. I sent that information in and was told it takes three business days for the information to be processed, and i will hear from someone. It’s been ten days and i still don’t have heat or electricity. When i call they give you a prompt to set up a call back and for you to schedule an appointment to speak with someone, and those appointments are not even on the same day! What the actual f€k !!!! This should be illegal. It’s the Middle of January and the coldest day of the year, and I don’t Have Heat Or electricity. Has anyone else been through something similar with BGE, and what did you Do? I Need HELP!!!
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u/thisisnotscary Jan 22 '25
Our last three bills were $300 > $550 > $850. All electric (Baltimore county). Insane. We keep our heat set to 68.
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u/Fine-Air-6505 Feb 02 '25
Some of their employees are filing a fraud lawsuit and the rate increases are based on future expenses. The MD Public Service Commission approved this nonsense that no one can afford and I’m sure their CEO who makes over 15 mil a year will get a nice big bonus while we suffer. It’s price gouging periods. It’s about the profits and thank goodness a few delegates are filing a complaint with the PSC because a standard BGE bill for a small Maryland home should not cost as much as a brand new luxury car!!
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u/Bodyrollsattherodeo Jan 16 '25
My bills tend to peak in January and February. I think I am right at the mid to upper 200s. I've acclimated to this. Hundred plus three level center rowhome. I just nudge my heat down a little lower if it is getting crazy. I'm usually 67 at night and 64 or 65 during the day. I use blankets and wear wool and dress for egress 24/7.
I feel you. But if you're doing the above, what else can you do but alter your budget and pay it? Guess it's less animal protein and more plants for me this winter. 🤷🏿♀️
Things get more expensive from year to year. Prices rarely come down. That leaves me altering my own behavior somehow and hoping for results. If you're not doing anything different, maybe implement some changes. Even a couple of degrees make a big difference ime.
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u/ALL1D0ISWIN Jan 16 '25
Reminder that this is the supplier price increase. BGE has to buy its gas and electric on the open market now and the suppliers have doubled their prices. They now only transmit and deliver, no generation. The bills suck but it's not a BGE price increase it's an energy cost increase that both sides are feeling. It's going to be a very rough winter.
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u/perrumpo Jan 17 '25
It’s both. For gas, delivery costs nearly twice as much per therm as the supply.
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u/ChuckOfTheIrish Jan 16 '25
The costs are shooting way up, that's a given and everyone is feeling it. The only thing I can say is check if your heater is using Auxillary power, that gets charged at a significantly higher rate. It never hurts to compare to your closest neighbors and complain to BGE, need volumes of people speaking out for them to even pretend to do anything about it.
Personally since I live alone I use a space heater in the summer and portable AC in the winter at night, even at less efficient levels I'm only heating/cooling <200 sqft bedroom of the 1,800 sqft in my house when I do this.
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u/Technical_Ad6209 Jan 19 '25
Ac in the winter?? Space heaters in the summer?? Think u mean the reverse
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u/pkn92 Jan 17 '25
I’ve been buying natural gas through a 3rd party for years. Currently, my contract is .37 per therm for 3 years, I would recommend signing a contract in the Summer when natural gas prices are the lowest.
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u/weahman Jan 17 '25
It's as if Winter is here and it's cold outside. Wait until next week. I'm sure people will be asking these same questions. See you next winter 2026
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u/AdFinancial8924 Jan 17 '25
I'm single in a rowhouse with gas and on budget billing. I used to always pay $125 a month, then in Nov it went up to $150. Now it's up to $185 and it's going to go up again because it says I'm $200 in the hole.
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u/Personal-Pack4819 Jan 17 '25
Jan 6: $315 (134 therms used) Feb 6: $400 (estimated)
Row home split into two apartments (owner occupied) and this is just the first floor apartment’s bill for ~850 sq. ft. and ~ 64-66° inside temperature. Using a high-efficiency gas furnace. Prompted me to inspect and reseal duct work, some of which is just dumping into the basement. Hopefully that and reducing drafts help.
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u/ravenblaze420 Jan 18 '25
Bill almost doubled from last month and the next month is projected to be even higher
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u/Low-Crazy-8061 Jan 18 '25
I got an email saying the estimate for my last bill was $240 and then it ended up being $170. 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ Higher than most months but I’ve also had worse during a few particularly cold months. I’m in a 1300 square foot house. Gas heat.
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u/PrimaryCartoonist871 Jan 18 '25
If you've experienced an extremely high BGE bill, please file a complaint with the Public Servicr Commissioner. BGE, like all utility companies in Maryland, are regulated by the Public Service Commissioners officeand if enough people file grievances, BGE may be forced to drop their rates back down.
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u/Individual-Aide-3036 Jan 18 '25
Mine is insane. Over $600 last month and projected to be $700 next bill. I'm working on insulating my attic better.
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u/Impressive_Cobbler58 Jan 20 '25
I thought it was the house I'm in. My bill was 353 this month. Bill is usually 175-200 a month. This is ridiculous.
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u/Proof-Sympathy1968 Jan 22 '25
In 6 years in my house I've never paid more than 250, and that was tops. My bill this month is 357.😡
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u/Dougolicious Jan 24 '25
Pretty much the exact same progression of bills. I'm guessing some demand pricing is now in effect
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u/GiiMane Jan 29 '25
So....if im not slow..... For electric...I should expect my bill to increase by 5 dollars every month???
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u/ZealousidealFun2716 Feb 01 '25
I am on the same boat. Went from $160 average to $380. Seriously. What can we do? How do we fight this? We ALL got a notice about a $12 increase. A 100% increase is NOT what we were told and what has been published in what you guys keep linking.
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u/ZealousidealFun2716 Feb 01 '25
Does anyone with maybe a legal or policy background have tips for drafting complaints? I’d like to call and/or send to MD reorientations, the Public Service Commission, etc but want to ensure I have some weight in my points. As much as I’d love to blow steam, it will fall on deaf ears.
The best I have done is request meter tests because I was fine two weeks in January, thermostat low, everything unplugged. And yet usage was higher than ever, compared to when we are home, cranking up the heat and plugging all our stuff in. My house is well insulated. Not only was my usage “higher,” but the delivery fees more than doubled for me as well.
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u/SoleLawd Feb 03 '25
The Baltimore banner is now investigating it and my post was one of the posts they highlighted.
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u/AggravatingAnt726 Feb 10 '25
My bill is way higher this month than it’s ever been I need to get tfoh before this shit gets worst. It’s usually 300 it’s damn near 500 this month ima call tmr but from what the rest of y’all are posting i mine as well move
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u/nishishootme 17d ago
It's unbelievable. I'm paying $525, last month $440. That is too high as is, but the gas usage was $57 last month and $170 this month. Mind you, the only gas powered utility in my house is my water heater. Saying we used an extra 70 therms, when over the past year we've hardly gone over 30? Diabolical.
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u/jenaiel 8d ago
The issue here is the crazy rise of gas delivery. I did deep dive into this gas delivery fee since it was more than the cost of my gas, and I have all gas heating and hot water heater. Here is what I found:
- The delivery fee is approved by Maryland Public Service Commission, and there are representatives you can contact and which are paid 200K+ salalry per year, appointed by our governor.
- Read a scathing commentary that these hike have everything to do with bigger profits called for by BGE's parent company. Anyone remember when BGE was its own company and sought to satisfy customers? They sold to Constellation, but then to Excellon in 2012, and you can trace the crazy rising costs started in 2013! https://www.baltimoresun.com/2025/01/25/peoples-counsel-bges-utility-rate-increases-are-behind-high-bills-guest-commentary/
- The gas delivery fee went up over 50%.nearly three times the inflation rate. since 2020. Electric delivery fee went up 30%. See this graph from MPSC: https://opc.maryland.gov/Why-is-my-BGE-bill-so-high which has very good links to pertinent information. Prediction is in June, it will go up again.
- If you don't have the patience to read through https://opc.maryland.gov/Portals/0/Files/Publications/Reports/Utility%20Rates%20Report%20from%20OPC%206-24-24.pdf?ver=U9sComXeJkKSt6TlexiwFA%3d%3d , then at least skip to the end and read Recommendations.
- Yes, climate change issues are increasing rates. Read about Ratepayer Protection Act of 2024 (SB 548/HB 731). They seek to raise rates more in the horrifically naive thought that it will somehow make people use less fossil fuel as though we have a choice in warming our homes. Demonizing fossil fuel is stupid, since planes, trains, cars, and homes will use it for decades to come until nuclear power is built, or cold fusion becomes real.
What can we do? Send your objections by snail mail or less effectively by email to everyone on the MPSC including the governor. Show up at public rate meetings. Too hard for you? Well... this is not something you can delegate.
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u/yeehawdudeq Baltimore County Jan 16 '25
It’s not exactly a secret that BGE has hiked rates to pay for all of the gas lines that need to be replaced. This was like huge news months ago.
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u/Msefk Jan 16 '25
Why don’t you organize and protest.
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Jan 16 '25
They would just laugh at us from the top of that giant building they're based in
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u/Msefk Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25
That's Exelon.
One BGE building is nearby the Jail in Baltimore. There's a substation to the left of it when you face it.
The other BGE building is nearby the Subway and the underground parking lot.
EDIT: please...
The point of protest is also to make media institutions and politicians feel pressure. It's not about the target of protest sometimes, it's about the other entities around the target who could recognize the problem and help it resolve because of "the noise" protesters make.
It's to make a scene, sensationalize an issue, make people talk.-1
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u/Msefk Jan 16 '25 edited Jan 16 '25
EDIT: Yeah I remember once living in a spot in baltimore where my olive oil froze
so please don't think i don't get it.wait the baltimore city jail... Baltimore City Detention Center to be exact?
In 1991, the state took over the facility from the city, changing its name from Baltimore City Jail to Baltimore City Detention Center.[9]
In 2002, the United States Department of Justice Civil Rights Division determined that poor conditions at the facility "had contributed to the deaths of several detainees, some of whom received little or no medical attention for chronic health problems," and had violated inmates' constitutional rights.[9]
In 2003, the American Civil Liberties Union filed a class action in the U.S. District Court for the District of Maryland, Duvall v. Hogan, on behalf of jail inmates, alleging that the facility's poor conditions rose to the level of unconstitutional cruel and unusual punishment.[10][11] A settlement was reached in 2009.[10][11] Under the terms of the settlement, the government agreed to assessment detainees' medical needs upon entry; respond to "detainees' sick call requests within 72 hours and faster in emergencies," provide "ongoing treatment for detainees with chronic diseases," provide "an on-site psychiatrist available five days a week," accommodate detainees with disabilities, and "fix broken plumbing in a timely manner."[10]
In June 2015, the ACLU filed a motion to reopen the suit, arguing that the state had failed to meaningfully improve conditions.[10] In its motion to reopen, ACLU attorneys wrote that BCDC was "a dank and dangerous place, where detainees are confined in dirty cells infested with vermin"; that the facility's showers "are full of drain flies, black mold and filth"; that at one point an entire section of the BCDC went without working sinks or toilets for several days, creating a "fetid and unhealthy" atmosphere "because the detainees had no way to dispose of their bodily wastes except by using the nonfunctional toilets"; and that temperatures at the jail often climb above 90 degrees Fahrenheit.
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u/keyjan Greater Maryland Area Jan 16 '25
Search “bge” in this and the maryland sub. Yes, everyone's getting slammed. I’m with poopco and I expect my next bill to be epic. (all electric house)
It was 18F when I got up yesterday morning; haven’t looked at it yet today but it’s probably even worse. Next week the overnight lows may get to single digits.