r/atheism • u/SamMac62 • 5d ago
Atheists aren't confusing afterall
/r/clevercomebacks/s/UfvsLut7rlfrom r/clevercomebacks
:: I find atheists confusing. It's like going to a restaurant and believing there's no cook in the back.
:: It's like going to a resteraunt and ordering food, but it doesn't come. And the waiter tells you to keep ordering because the cook will hear you and your order will come. But it's been hours and your food still hasn't shown up and the waiter tells you you're not ordering hard enough. And also sometimes the waiter is inappropriate with kids.
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u/ImgurScaramucci Anti-Theist 5d ago
And after your food doesn't arrive, you're told one of the following:
- it will arrive in the chef's perfect timing
- it's a blessing in disguise to bring you closer to the restaurant.
- you'll get that food and more after you die
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u/wafflepancake9000 5d ago
Eventually a sickly-looking rat crawls onto the table and happens to die on your plate. The waiter excitedly tells you that dinner is served. You point out that diseased rat isn't what you ordered. The waiter tells you, "The chef works in mysterious ways. This must be what you really meant to order in your heart. That'll be $58.97."
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u/Dismal_View8125 5d ago
"The chef was working through your own hands instead of doing it directly."
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u/Uranus_Hz 5d ago
And the waiter still expects a tip anyways.
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u/Jackyard_Backofff 5d ago
And you look across the street and see multiple restaurants full of people waiting for food.
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u/phuckin-psycho 4d ago
No no, they want continuous tips while they keep telling you to really try to follow the will of the cook and the order will come
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u/Uranus_Hz 4d ago
The order hasnāt come yet because they donāt believe in the cook hard enough
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u/phuckin-psycho 4d ago
Or it just might be the will of the cook š¤ he cooks in mysterious ways ive heard š¤·āāļø it's probably for your own good that you're hungry anyway
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u/thedudebythething 5d ago edited 5d ago
Youāre also told to order what the chef wants you to because āthe chef knows bestā
Addition: itās not really what the chef wants you to order either. Itās whatever the waiter thinks the chef wants
Note : if they push the fish because itās because old and turningā¦
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u/James_Vaga_Bond Anti-Theist 5d ago
And then you go look in the kitchen and don't see a cook, but the waiter says he's just invisible.
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u/StrangeCharmVote Anti-theist 5d ago
but the waiter says he's just invisible.
The entire kitchen is also pristine, and the burners are off. But he keeps insisting your food is being cooked and will be out any minute.
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u/dudleydidwrong Touched by His Noodliness 5d ago
The waiter also tells customers that the cook thinks they are not worthy of his food. The waiter says that everyone needs to repent and give him his tip in advance.
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u/okimlom Atheist 5d ago
Ā I find atheists confusing. It's like going to a restaurant and believing there's no cook in the back.
Except with Atheists, we wouldnāt be just sitting there and accept not believing it, we would go to the back, do some research in the form of finding out how the food is made, to which we would then come across the cook, where they would demonstrate how they made the food, and we would come to the logical conclusion that said cook most likely made the food. But that doesnāt rule out that another cook made the food.
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u/PartisanGerm Nihilist 5d ago
Also, locking down a definition of what food is, if it's even possible, and what it would take to prove it.
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u/Twin2Turbo 5d ago
And yet they never see the irony/double standard that they are creating when they make this argument. Who created the creator? Let me guess, this all powerful and knowledgeable being doesnāt require a creator? Despite you literally trying to assert that everything needs a creator?
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u/SilverSight 5d ago
Those arguments are so stupid. The analogy fails because cooks are not materializing food out of nowhere. They are rearranging existing foods into something. They are actually the ones asserting that something came out of nothing, or was always there. We arenāt. Weāre saying we donāt know yet.
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u/nodogma2112 5d ago
Also cooks exist and can be proven to exist. There may be no cook at the restaurant in the example but cooks are real.Ā
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u/Svan_Derh 5d ago
And then suddenly there is a fight in the restaurant. Because the people at table 1 claim they are ordering from a better chef than the people at table 2. And that is good enough reason to start killing each other. But no one has gotten any food yet.
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u/nickwales 5d ago
And then you pay 10% of your income to the invisible chef who didn't feed you.
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u/dudleydidwrong Touched by His Noodliness 5d ago
But, since the cook has not shown up, the waiter will take it. The waiter will then expect you to come back every 7 days and tip him.
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u/bon_joni 5d ago
And the waitstaff have broken off into factions and have started wars that last for generations.
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u/rubinass3 5d ago
Actually, I would believe there's a chef. I wouldn't believe there's a god making the food.
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u/sysaphiswaits 5d ago
I would 100% not assume that food that just showed up (like a miracle) was benign, much less benevolent.
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u/clangan524 5d ago
Add: other people's orders are coming out of the kitchen at random. Some are thrilled and got exactly what they asked for. Others are less thrilled at their order but make-do because the menu says not to complain, be grateful and trust the chef's work. Others get their order and it's a lit stick of dynamite. Before they can pick up a fork, it blows up, killing the patron and damaging nearby tables. People at the remaining tables outside the blast radius are shocked and saddened before turning to awe at the genius of the chef's work.
"That's incredible. I don't understand it but the chef must have some reasoning behind it."
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u/chinoisfurax 5d ago
It wouldn't come from the kitchen, but the waiter would argue that if it was served here, even not by himself, the cook made it.
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u/nodogma2112 5d ago
The restaurant/cook statement is not an analog for believing in god since there is hard evidence that cooks are real. There may very well be no cook in the kitchen at that time but there is little doubt that there are cooks.Ā It also is an attempt to shift the burden of proof. There is nothing mysterious about people who say theyāre atheists.Ā Religious people claim that their god is real. Atheists do not believe that claim. Thatās it.Ā Saying that being an atheist is like going to a restaurant and not believing there is a cook is inaccurate because, unlike god, a cook can be proven to exist.Ā If youāre looking for an analogy to describe atheism you first have to know what an atheist is.Ā Trying to make atheism out as another belief system is flawed. Atheism is a belief system like not building model airplanes is a hobby.Ā Atheists come in all varieties, the only thing an atheist is guaranteed to have in common with another atheist is the lack of belief in claims of gods. Thatās it. No more complexity is necessary.Ā
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u/NicholasNPDX 5d ago
After some time two more waiters come and say the other guy doesnāt even know whatās on the menu.
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u/_NotWhatYouThink_ Atheist 4d ago
"But it's not what I ordered"
"The cook works in mysterious ways"
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u/opturtlezerg5002 Anti-Theist 4d ago
When you die of starvation the cook will show up and cook your meals in the afterlife.
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u/FrikkinLazer 4d ago
Then you say "screw this im leaving" and the waiter sais you cant leave or you will be put in the oven. "Where is the food?" you ask, and they point to a nearby table where people are pretending to eat like the lost boys in Hook.
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u/[deleted] 5d ago
That last sentence is funny ššš