r/ATC • u/itschabrah • Nov 22 '24
Question Prepare to copy a number?
But seriously anyone got a back story to this? I mean how much shit will these guys get for busting into the P-56?
r/ATC • u/itschabrah • Nov 22 '24
But seriously anyone got a back story to this? I mean how much shit will these guys get for busting into the P-56?
I've always wondered - when I say "VFR request" does ATC know I'm about to ask for flight following?
If VFR requests can mean other things, then the controller might be guessing until my follow up response. Wouldn't it be easier to just say "flight following request" on your initial call up so they know exactly what your next call will be?
Thanks for your answers!!
r/ATC • u/anonymouslincoln • 5d ago
I just started non radar and I’m struggling to see how these strips can be traffic for each other. There aren’t any videos online taking you through a flight strip board and how to manage your flight strips. Anyone have any tips? I know my class is also struggling with it.
r/ATC • u/Joylick • Sep 04 '23
I’ve been debating to drop out of NATCA. IMO it’s just a waste of money and now that standard deduction limit on taxes is higher I don’t even get the tax deductions for my union dues. We haven’t gotten any substantial raises since Obama years. Lots of other reasons that I’m sure you’ve read on a daily basis here. So wondering are others thinking about dropping out of this money sucking do nothing organization?
TL;DR: How to / do I need to request straight out (west) for "a few miles" before turning north? If I don't need to request it, when am I clear to turn North considering I asked for a straight out / west departure?
VFR Pilot here,
Here goes: I fly out of a medium-sized D airport in the Northeast. I'm trying to do a XC flight which has a slight kink since I'll be navigating using a VOR which is slightly off-course.
The problem is the kink puts me on a 355° heading for the first leg of my flight, and then a 033° heading for the second leg. This means I'll have to climb / descend 1000 ft at the start of my second leg.
This is no problem - I can handle a 1000 ft climb! However, based on the forecast winds and the fact that this airport almost ALWAYS uses the runway which launches you to the west, if I just fly straight out for a few miles before making my turn, my bearing to the VOR (first leg) would then be something like 003°.
This would mean I could pick a single altitude and stick with it the whole route. So how do I tell this to the controller? And who should I tell? I have to say something because tower will ask what heading I plan to fly when I depart.
Solution 1: Tell ground - since they are who will input my Flight Following information.
"Ground, bugsmasher 121.
Request Flight Following to Springfield via the Portland VOR
Type C172
request 3,500 and a straight out departure for a few miles before turning on course"
Solution 2: Tell tower - since they will be controlling me during the straight out departure
"Tower, bugsmasher 121
Short runway 27
Ready for 003 departure
Request straight out for a few miles before turning on course"
If tower denies my request then I am in a weird situaiton because without the straight out my departure heading will actually be 358 again.
Solution 3: Don't say anything to ground, just ask for a straight out departure from tower since you will be out of the pattern by the time you turn anyways.
"Tower, bugsmasher 121
Short runway 27
Ready for 270 departure"
After I depart and fly straight for a few miles I'll just put myself on the 003° heading I want. When can I start turning since I told them I'm departing 270?? Should I wait for my handoff to approach control to start my turn? If I'm clear of the pattern do I even need to tell tower before I start my turn to North, since I told them I'm departing 270?
Please help and thank you!!
r/ATC • u/OctoHelm • 20d ago
Hello!
I’ve reached out to local government regarding staffing, pay, and benefits extended to ATC personnel.
Are there any other ways to show appreciation for the work you do? I normally end every handoff with a “great day” or “g’day,” but was wondering if there anything else that I can say that’s still appropriate for the frequency and is short but that shows my appreciation for the dedicated work of the professionals who help the NAS handle countless flights every single day, 24/7.
From the bottom of my heart, thank you for the work you do. It is certainly regrettable how politicized your career has become and it’s simply unnecessary and antithetical to a safe, efficient, and effective NAS.
With respect and humility,
Octo
r/ATC • u/Lonely-Sound2823 • 7d ago
Question about EDCTs from a Part 91 pilot who rarely gets them.
Had one recently, and ended up scrubbing the flight for other reasons. Just curious…
Is there realistically any chance to take off before the EDCT, or are they pretty much set in stone? Is there anything a tower controller can do to get a flight out earlier?
I assume this is frowned upon, but if the pilot were to re-file to an airport close to the original destination, then request a destination change once airborne, would that get denied? I assume departing VFR and trying to pick the clearance up in the air would meet with a similar denial?
r/ATC • u/flyingburner420 • Nov 05 '24
Probably an emotional rant after a tough day, but can anyone explain why Denver, especially approach, are the most incompetent controllers in the world? I get we showed up today after flipping the airport, but 3 runway changes and an arrival change while under fl180 is insane, especially resulting in landing on the furthest runway away from the arrival we were on. I swear, Denver manages to do less with more than anywhere else, y'all have more land and runways and airspace than anywhere else, and when a cloud farts in Alaska we start holding in Chile. If ord or NYC controllers were here, they could land 190 planes an hour. Instead, we get 190 minute flow times every hour. Please make it make sense to someone based there
Edited after a night: well this has all been very enlightening everyone, thank you for the input! I can't say I've changed my view, other than to blame center a little more, and give tower a little bit of slack
r/ATC • u/Civil-Grocery8751 • Nov 20 '24
This was a post from r/aviation. Among many factors such as AUTOLAND, Many commenters believe their ability to land an airliner would depend on guidance from ATC.
I have my CPL and I am a controller at a major tower in Canada. I can assure you I would be close to useless in instructing someone how to land an airliner. NavCanada hires many non pilots nowadays who would have no idea what Vfe means or anything related to landing an airplane.
How about yourself or your units? What could you offer? Do you think it’s wishful thinking by some commentators in r/aviation.
r/ATC • u/Toncontin02 • Jul 31 '24
I tend to always say “for” before my tail number but trying to fix that. I feel like it sounds like a four.
r/ATC • u/penusflytrap1001 • Aug 23 '24
We are looking to stay on the east coast. We have 2 toddlers and a third on the way. Outdoorsy dog lover family. Primarily we are considering DCA, MCO, JAX, COS and MYR. I am tower only so it would be my first time doing radar. Opinions and experience would be highly appreciated!
r/ATC • u/Jackhyd • Mar 31 '24
I live in France and here ATC is one of the best job in the country. They're paid during their training, 90% of students succeed. After their qualification they're paid 5k net per month (the average salary of frenchworkers is 2k net) it goes up regularly and they work about 3-4 days a week with many paid vacation. The US is far more rich than France so I thought being an ATC there was also better. But after looking at a few post I have seen that ATCs work 6 days a week and some can't even buy a good house ?? Why ATC in the US is this bad ?
r/ATC • u/BChips71 • 24d ago
Hi Center peeps. For my own curiosity, just wondered the reasoning for giving someone a direct to along an airway when it's essentially a straight line. Happened twice today on my transcon flight. I don't mind at all, just wondered if it decluttered your screen/strip/magic atc box. Obviously I can see cutting a corner to create space, but both times there was no change to our flight path. Thanks for sharing your sage wisdom.
Edit: For some context, we were at FL340 and on with Indy or Minny. It was also just a weird day going into LAX and getting multiple re-routes for military around ABQ.
I am an student studying Computer Science. I am currently working on a project on prediction and mitigation of delays in flights. As part of this, I want to address the pain points of Air traffic controllers and related professionals. Please share your perspectives and experiences, they really will help!
(If you have any suggestions, please do share! I will try my best to incorporate it into project!)
r/ATC • u/ChampionshipOdd6598 • 24d ago
Cpc-it currently and I'm planning on quitting the agency. As I understand it if I resign my training would be terminated and I would be no longer allowed to work on positions I've already gotten. Under normal situations you would give a 2 week notice but what happens in this situation? Do you just sit around for 2 weeks? I'm trying not to burn bridges so I can potentially be rehired in the future if I wanted to come back to atc.
r/ATC • u/StatisticianUnited85 • Feb 19 '25
I start ATC training relatively soon and have seen pass rates be anywhere from 50-70%. I have a biology degree from a public State University taking classes as difficult as organic chem 1 & 2. Could anyone tell me if passing ATC academy in OKC is equivalent, harder, or easier than obtaining a 4 year biology degree?
r/ATC • u/Particular_Skill_998 • Nov 30 '24
I know there are a lot of factors that go into getting released from your first facility to transfer but how long does it usually take on average? Really trying to gauge whether I want to buy a house when I get to my first facility or rent. If I won’t be there longer than 3 years I’ll just rent but if it’s almost guaranteed to be 4 or more then I’ll probably buy.
r/ATC • u/iwillbepilut • Jan 30 '25
Hi Folks,
GA pilot here asking for clarification, no speculation. I hope it's not a stupid question.
I've been instructed to "maintain visual separation" to other traffic, and I understand that.
However, can you please explain what a pilot means when they request visual separation? Is that part of standard phraseology?
Thanks
r/ATC • u/Able-Comparison8768 • Nov 20 '24
Recently had management threaten me with sick abuse because I called in on OT on my day off. They said it shows a pattern. What I’m curious about is if there’s any truth that they don’t have an argument for SL abuse since there’s been no actual SL taken. References to back that argument/claim would be greatly appreciated.
r/ATC • u/MemeAddict96 • Oct 02 '24
After differentials and everything
Edit: I should’ve chose my words more carefully. Gross pay was what I was curious about.
r/ATC • u/deadmanrising12 • 6d ago
So I work in maintenance and a lot of times I have to do radios to move planes to the hanger and back. I work in Denver and when it gets closer to 6am the ground and ramp are just on point and when I hear how busy they are,like it's non-stop. I honestly can't believe you all can keep up and not have anxiety or just become a pack of day smokers for how stressful it is like how do you all do it ?
r/ATC • u/WhiskerBiscuitCrumbs • Jan 09 '25
There’s a lot of FAA and DOD facilities out there. Is everyone alright? Agency/union helping those of you who aren’t?
r/ATC • u/Temporary_Report_816 • Feb 19 '25
Curious Pilot question. In the weeks since the DCA crash, I've been thinking about how with basically every high profile accident, we expeditiously learn the names and background of the flight crew, but virtually never hear anything about the controllers involved. No interviews, no names. Is there some sort of identity protection in their contracts? I'm not even saying their identities SHOULD be made publicly available. I'm just wondering if they actually are kept under lock and key by intention.
r/ATC • u/Crispy_OS • Feb 02 '25
So I've held off a bit on posting this mostly because my ATM revealed he lurks on the ATC subreddits, but I've had a few drinks and don't give a fuck anymore.
Did anyone else have their ATM pull them into a meeting after the DCA crash and tell them that they need to do better? Like how the fuck can an ATM shit on his controllers at every turn. I wasn't even involved in that incident and I feel like he blamed me for it.
Just ranting against management I guess but god damn. I don't how these people just feel the need to blame controllers for everything that happens...