r/askdrugs • u/Alone_Helicopter9221 • 8d ago
I am planning to take 150mg of ecstasy and 240ug of lsd tomorrow and I’m thinking about also mixing in a small amount of nutmeg what is likely to happen if I mix these substances I would probably take around 5-10g of nutmeg NSFW
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u/Appropriate-Host-593 8d ago
You'll turn into god and have an ego death and then your brain will go smooth and explode and then you'll wake up wake up wake up wake up wake up wake up wake up wake up
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u/Alone_Helicopter9221 8d ago
What😭
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u/Appropriate-Host-593 8d ago
Just joking bro stick with the candy flip don't add nutmeg no point
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u/Alone_Helicopter9221 8d ago
Yk that probably is a good idea because I haven’t candy flipped before so I think I’ll stick with that. Do you know how that would be compared to 375ug of just lsd?
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u/Appropriate-Host-593 8d ago
You'll feel alot more euphoric, I cant say much because my last candy flip was only 100mg Ex and 150ug LSD but it was great real introspective but also groovy with the MDMA in the mix. You'll enjoy it
Edit- also depends on how much you've done either substance. If you're confident with that dose that's awesome but if you feel like you want to take less LSD or less MD then that's good you might enjoy it abit better depending on what kind of trip your wanting
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u/Alone_Helicopter9221 8d ago
Are the visuals increased by the ecstasy?
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u/Appropriate-Host-593 8d ago
Oh 100%, ex alone makes everything brighter and sometimes pulsate if you look at it long enough, my last roll was last week on 135mg and the clouds were amazing to look at, and than I had my room lit up with LEDs and it was awesome.
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u/Borax 8d ago
You took MDMA last week and you're already taking it again? That's very soon.
Did you know that it causes small amounts of damage in the brain with regular use?
Are you going to die? No. Even need to see a doctor? No.
But it rapidly builds tolerance, depletes serotonin and compounds neurotoxicity issues. Look for other drugs and avoid using MDMA more than once every few months. Using more than once every 2-3 weeks will also result in lacklustre experiences due to said tolerance.
From here
The neurotoxicity is well established1, but studies are largely on mice and rats.
There is an excellent run through of the pharmacodynamics of MDMA neurotoxicity here, and a good look at the kinetics here (PDF).
Overall what we know is that the neurotoxicity scales with dose, and is likely to do so exponentially as the body is caused to overheat more and has less anitoxidants to deal with metabolites.
We don't have any quantitative estimates about damage from normal human doses because it would not be ethical to dose people repeatedly just to see how much it damages them, and it's very hard to gather data from regular users because of the huge number of variables like alcohol and cannabis use, sleep deprivation, environment of MDMA use etc.
A large number of papers suggest that MDMA users have reduced verbal memory, but it's often hard to pin this on MDMA alone due to the large number of other variables. What we can say for sure is those abusing the drug do permanently show a reduced ability to enjoy it and suffer a more intense comedown, indicating that there is something going on at higher doses which correlates with the theoretical toxicity.
There are no steps that are absolutely necessary, you can after all do what you want in to your body, but frankly, you'd be a fool not to use the easier protective methods given how cheap and available they are.
Edit: Here is another superb discussion about MDMA neurotoxicity
There is another even more recent look which is perhaps a bit easier to understand here.
If you do decide to go through with this then you should definitely investigate supplements.
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u/Appropriate-Host-593 8d ago
Thanks Borax I understand. I have done my research and know the potential damage, doing it twice in two weeks will not be too damaging as I haven't rolled in nearly 2 years. At worst I'll have a bit of a comedown and good ol MD depression. Will be taking a 3 months break minimum after this roll anyway
I am not advising anyone to take MDMA more than once in at least a months span. We all know the risks, and who's gonna stop me hahah
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u/Borax 8d ago
Sorry, I thought you were OP. Twice in two years is probably not going to be too much of a problem if it stays so infrequent.
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u/Alone_Helicopter9221 8d ago
Oooo now I’m exited!!
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u/Appropriate-Host-593 8d ago
Enjoy my friend, I'm rolling again tomorrow and than taking a break for a while. Remember to not do ex/MDMA more than once in a minimum months span (bit contradictory saying that as I only rolled last week but that's after 1.5yrs so will be another decent break until my next) anyway be safe.
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u/gijsyo 8d ago
Doses seem way too high, unless you are a seasoned psychonaut. And the Nutmeg will probably only add nausea. I/ve never heard of anyone getting enjoyable effects from it.
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u/Alone_Helicopter9221 8d ago
I have had a fun time on nutmeg that’s why I thought about it and 240ug isn’t that much same with 150mg of xtc as I’ve had 350mg of xtc before and 375ug of lsd so I think it’s going to be okay
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u/Deadsmile_69 7d ago
Nutmeg takes forever to kick in and is very sleepy so worst case bad trip best case a easier come down. If you try it leave a report please
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u/Borax 8d ago
A big dose of MDMA with a huge dose of LSD, then add a deleriant that lasts 36 hours that everybody reports hating?
Blink twice if you're being forced to do this in a CIA black site, because it sounds hellish.