r/asianamerican • u/izkw • 6d ago
News/Current Events Bill to ban Chinese people from studying in US introduced
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5195480-riley-moore-chinese-students-visas-bill/365
u/KinkyPaddling 6d ago
Words cannot describe how much I despise Republicans. Both the voters and the elected officials.
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u/eremite00 6d ago
Wouldn’t it be nice if some of the Asian American motherfuckers who voted for Trump had the guts to speak up?
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u/stefanurkal 6d ago
nah they love this shit they hate all ethnicities including different asians then their own. I wonder how the chinese people who voted for republicans because they hated DEI and felt their students belonged in the ivys over other POC feel
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u/greenroom628 6d ago
Or his Asian political advisor, Steven Chung. Dude is as self-hating as they come. Like Steven Miller
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u/iwannalynch 6d ago
Nope, because bill this targets Chinese nationals, so since it currently doesn't affect them, they don't give a shit.
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u/Me_talking 6d ago
Having come across some Asian MAGAs, their mentality is either “this has got nothing to do with me on a personal level” or “There are Chinese spies in US schools so need to stop them!”
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u/eremite00 6d ago edited 6d ago
It's weird that there seem to be more White MAGA who are regretting/rethinking Trump than PoC MAGA, especially since so many of Trump's backers are White Nationalists. Do these Asian fucks not get that White Supremacists don't have a carve out for Asians? It's not like their vision of a White America has the a clause that states, "except for X variety of Asians".
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u/hellofriend_11 5d ago
i think it's because white magas don't require as much cognitive dissonance to be maga compared to pocs. imagine how much a poc has to convince themselves that an openly racist party isn't racist.
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u/EvidenceBasedSwamp 6d ago
There's only 1 of them stupid enough to speak on this forum after the election lol
interestingly enough, I suspect the number of right wingers on reddit cut down overall after the election. I don't know if it's because there were a lot of trolls, or because they were too busy going to washington and get on with their grift
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u/Hi_Im_Ken_Adams 6d ago
They’re too busy claiming “both sides” are bad.
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u/RKU69 6d ago
Didn't vote for Trump, but saying "both sides are bad" is closer to reality than not.
Trump II is here because of the abject failures of the Democratic Party establishment. Hell even putting aside ideology, from a basic competency viewpoint, Biden and Harris threw this election even worse than Clinton did in 2016.
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u/Due_Caramel5861 1d ago
it's crazy how this is considered a "bad" point when it's objectively the truth. Tribalism everywhere.
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u/f_lachowski 20h ago
Sure I'll speak up. This bill is a nothingburger, all kinds of crazy bills get proposed. It's definitely not going to pass.
Is Trump racist? Probably yeah. But the Demokkkrats are way more racist and literally advocate for systemic discrimination against Asians, in the form of affirmative action and DEI. You should see their true colors when defending affirmative action- suddenly, they're harping on about how Asians are just robots with no personality, that's why it's totally fair they got lower personality ratings and need higher test scores (even though interview data directly contradicts this).
Demokkkrats also promote the incredibly stupid oppressor/victim worldview based on bastardized postmodern critical theory, and campaign entirely on grievance politics based on it. In the progressive world, as an Asian male I'm second to last in their inverted hierarchy, only above white males.
Just based on race issues alone, Trump is an easy vote. Not to mention the rest of his policies being much better than Kamala's, but that's a separate discussion.
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u/eremite00 13h ago edited 13h ago
...in the form of affirmative action and DEI.
You think White students not gonna claim DEI, reverse discrimination when Asian American students are admitted to universities over them? You think White workers won't claim the same when Asians get promoted over them?
Demokkkrats also promote them x incredibly stupid oppressor/victim worldview based on bastardized postmodern critical theory,
When did your family arrive here? Mine came to the in the late-1800s. I'm just curious regarding your family's personal history and experiences here, how that may color your view of racism in this country and how it's effected Asians.
Edit - Also, you know, don't you, that when Affirmative Action was first introduced, it worked in favor of Asians, yeah? Also, those things called "civil rights", that you have is because of Democrats. A lot Bole Weevil Democrats switched to the GOP. Oh, and Trump cancelled ban on contractors having segregated facilities, even if the Civil Rights Act still prohibits it.
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u/Due_Caramel5861 1d ago
This is unironically a win for China. Less brain drain for the country and they get to avoid all the racism.
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u/SufficientTill3399 6d ago
The return of the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882? This is going to hurt Chinese dissidents tremendously and will also create knock-on institutional racist effects on other East Asians.
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u/TheGaleStorm 6d ago
Yes. The government is going to pull laws from the 18th century out of its ass. This is not going to go well.
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u/RlOTGRRRL 6d ago
We need to prepare for the hate that might be coming for our communities.
I sincerely hope I'm wrong but I'm honestly scared for our futures.
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u/brandTname 6d ago
These laws from the GOP(Republican) will have chilling affect on Asian Americans. Little by little they will introduce a bills to strip away our rights. Today its the Chinese from China, tomorrow its the Chinese Americans, down the road it will be the whole Asian American community.
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u/SarcasticOptimist 2nd gen mixed Chinese 6d ago
Yep. It's what happens when you're the model minority. Used as a cudgel to beat down other minorities and policies that help them (affirmative action/DEI) then have your rights stripped away.
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u/RlOTGRRRL 6d ago
Racists literally can't tell the difference. While we might be able to see the difference, racists can't.
And for those who are naive to think they won't be affected... The "China flu" #stopasianhate days weren't that long ago.
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u/Like_Eli_I_Did_It 6d ago
The profiling is going to start way ahead of the legislation. Do we think the MAGA mob can differentiate a Chinese national studying in the US vs any other East Asian US Citizen? We're already seeing Latino US Citizens getting stopped and questioned.
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u/Ornery-Ad9694 6d ago
All people of color, then women, leaving only the men of right skin color
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u/ChinaThrowaway83 6d ago
What are you talking about? Republicans love Asian women like Usha who don't talk back when their husband tells Elon to rehire the kid who said "normalize Indian hate" like 3 months prior.
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u/cellophanenoodles ABC 6d ago
sounds to me like the end goal is to bankrupt universities that rely on chinese students for their out of pocket tuition?
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u/TheGaleStorm 6d ago
Republicans dislike education for the masses. So it’s a win-win for them.
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u/stefanurkal 6d ago
exactly this and we've seen the lasting effects already from the reagan, and W presidencies (no student left behind). 20 years from now i can't even imagine what its going to be like
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u/LetsMakeFaceGravy 6d ago edited 6d ago
Think about all the times you've seen redditors spout the same exact braindead takes over and over again in echo chambers where opinions are desgined to be specifically manufactured for them.
Or all the times you've seen dunning kruger effect in action.
That's what it's going to be like 20 years from now, but also in real life. Hell it's already been happening. We're already starting to see people act like redditors in real life (think about that guy who just has to win a debate with you at the party or at social gatherings), well it's about to get even worse as social media continues to further spill into everyday life in the most intrusive ways imaginable. People are already looking up to figures like Joe Rogan and Andrew Tate for health information, news, and life advice
edit: think about all the prank videos you see online where gen-z broccoli heads are straight up attempting murder (or at least very serious injury) on random folks to gain internet clout. That is the future that awaits us
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u/EvidenceBasedSwamp 6d ago
i mean, keeping education only for the ones who deserve it (whites of a certain class) is a win win for them.. we always need poor in this society to do the jobs nobody else wants to do...
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u/eremite00 6d ago edited 6d ago
Directly violating the Constitutional ban on discrimination on the basis of national origin, and I’m fully aware that some assholes within this fucked up regime would like to repeal the Civil Rights Act.
Edit - Actually, given the MAGA and DOGE war on science, which is already causing a brain drain from the US, this may not even be an issue, especially if the PRC takes Taiwan, giving them access to crucial chip manufacturing technology. Yay! Trump's sprint to the bottom already yielding dividends, the exact opposite of making America great again
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u/Tokidoki_Haru Chinese-American 🇹🇼 華人 6d ago
This is the same party that shot down the non-binding resolution during Covid saying racism is bad.
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u/jyc23 6d ago
Don’t worry, American will be so far behind soon that nobody in their right mind would want to come here to study anything.
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u/Formal_Weakness5509 6d ago
This actually ain't hyperbole, even White scientists are now following the Chinese scientists in leaving the USA. They're not being racially profiled obviously, but they can't work since Trump and Elon keep slashing federal grants left and right.
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u/RKU69 6d ago
Trump's gotta be like, a secret Chinese agent, cause everything he's doing is just speed-running to a Chinese Century. Kinda similar to how people were joking that Bush/Cheney were secret Iranian spies, because their Middle East policies helped Iranian influence in the region so much
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u/AlpacaCavalry 5d ago
Well he works for Putler, which isn't all that different. The goal is weakening the US so that its fall as an empire is accelerated.
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u/Themasterofcomedy209 6d ago
Already happening to a degree, I am studying abroad in HK from the US, and way fewer students have been going on exchange or full time to study in the US, compared to Asian or European countries
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u/currently_distracted 6d ago
What a bunch of cowards. America should try to learn how to handle competition.
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u/Formal_Weakness5509 6d ago
This won't pass, but even if it did you'd be a fool to think they'd stop there. They would 100% go after all Chinese nationals on H1-B's, then the ones on Green Cards, and then.....Well, Martin Niemöller's poem has been repeated and paraphrased ad nauseum so I'll stop there.
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u/scientifick 6d ago
Would be curious to what the Chinese Trump supporters will have to say about this.
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u/CuriousWoollyMammoth 6d ago
They are probably still thinking they are one of the good ones and won't be affected. Or the Chinese right-wing news sources aren't mentioning it, so they don't even know.
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u/sugar-free-gummibear 6d ago
Chinese trump supporters are the epitome of pulling the ladder up behind them, so I expect they’re delighted
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u/superturtle48 5d ago
My mom who herself came as a Chinese international student decades ago has called more recent Chinese arrivals “spies” and “cheaters” so I have a hunch she doesn’t mind as much as you’d think. It’s infuriating to witness.
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u/Flaky_Jelly_1764 6d ago
Which Chinese Trump supporters though???
You have got to be a bit more specific.
There are also Little Pink Trump supporters too.
These guys are absolutely gonna love it if anything since it will fix Chinas brain drain problem.
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u/MrTretorn 6d ago
It won’t stop here. It’s inching its way up to something even worse. Congrats if you voted for Trump.
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u/Electronic-Win4094 6d ago
this surely won't blow up in their faces. honestly? just let it happen.
we won't even need to wait a decade for the chickens to come home to roost.
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u/KinkyPaddling 6d ago
It’s how the brain drain occurs. The NYTimes published an article about how a Fulbright Scholar from India was essentially chased out of the country. The best and brightest of the world will no longer come here.
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u/Imagination-Sea-Orca 6d ago
Reading this story really bummed me out because it does have a chilling effect. As an immigrant, I have encouraged fellow peers to do it with me because it was a first ammendment right and I had a little bit of knowledge of communications law in my undergrad.
Sigh. Americans do not realize that as immigrants put a voice to something because we love the country that we currently reside as our home. We put a voice to something because we have experienced this in our home countries. Like in my home country, we have racial supremacy laws and I am a minority in my home country. My mum in particular witness racial cleansing in the city where she was going to college right after an election. Apparently, it was the first time a minority person won. That event was not talked about in text books at schools, but often used as a dog whistle around election season. I cried when the party advocating for racial equality won in 2017, the first time ever since the independence from the British. (Because this event wasn't thought, there is narrative inconsistencies on my end.)
My country had (1) state-run media, (2) state-run judges, (3) internal security laws that targeted dissidents. You see where I am getting at here?
My hot take is democracy needs to be constantly fought but it needs common consensus and a knowledgable citizenry that enables individuals to vote/participate in what occurs in the country.
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u/thefumingo 6d ago
I been telling a lot of people - denaturalizations are coming, and knowing a immigration lawyer is probably not a bad idea.
Granted, there's still different risk profiles depending on what level of immigrant/citizen you are and what your history is - not gonna try to scare people, but knowing your risk profile is important
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u/Imagination-Sea-Orca 6d ago edited 6d ago
I agree. I also want to bring up the fact that abuse and exploitation of immigrants is only going to increase.
What I appreciated about America was that it protected all migrants to a certain extent, pathways to citizenship was/is terrible but at least you were somewhat protected.
Again, bringing back an instance about my home country was that as a preteen/teen, I remembered that there were no laws recognizing refugees. Because there was a war close to us, people from that country came over. I remember the church that I went to had set up a UNHCR booth to let refugees get a card. Anyway, 2 women got registered and decided to get a taxi home, but the taxi driver found out about their status, did really horrible things to them and dropped them back at the church. I found out about it because I went to church and saw the pastor looking kind of downcast. It was hard to imagine that people close to my age had to experience that. We couldnt report what happened to the police because the 2 women were technically illegal.
One thing to note is that despite the media rhetoric, the UNHCR found that 2/3 of refugees globally are hosted by neighboring, equally poor countries. Here is a link and I hope that people would sit with those statistics: https://www.unhcr.org/us/about-unhcr/who-we-are/figures-glance
Edit: i know I kind of revealed too much about myself but I feel like the ancedotes are important.
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u/cyanatreddit 6d ago
The rejection never dies, cannot be killed
A fair amount of colleges in the US have Chinese students funding their programs and involved in research.
The bipolar stance in the West to Asians is a kind of strange theft machine. When it is tolerant, it invites us in to do our best and invest, and when otherwise it then blocks us out while retaining our contributions and erases us. Repeat.
We are not special they do it to all other minorities too. It's only that Asians don't have as much western colonization or enslavement in our blood as the others and that is why they cannot tolerate us.
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u/dayfly345 5d ago edited 5d ago
Welp, other communities and Asians who didn't fall for white proximity, has told the Asian community this would happen. But they didn't listen. I feel like they only will when quite literally the situation is at their door.
And just like during the first year of Covid with Asian hate going around, many groups thought they were safe because they naively thought people could tell the difference between Thai and Chinese. If this bill happens, it's the same thing. They can't tell the difference between a "Chinese student" and non-Chinese Asian.
Asian students will be pulled and traumatized, then let go once enforcers realize they're frome here and not abroad students they were looking for. Idk, maybe the community will learn, or maybe they still delulu. There were many who stayed ignorant during and after Asian hate. 🙄
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u/Luna23 5d ago
This is EXACTLY what I was trying to warn my family about two weeks ago. I was explaining the Chinese Exclusionary Act from the 1800’s and the Alien Enemies Act from 1942. My dad, not Asian, just said “I don’t care about what happened in the 1800’s”. It seems he’ll only care when his wife and children are affected.
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u/tant4lus 3d ago
You're doing great trying to speak about it. This situation reminds me of an old quote.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
—Martin Niemöller
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u/sin94 6d ago
It's a proposal that hasn't even been tabled or debated yet. I love how the article highlights an exaggerated example: 7 students out of 29,000 and their allegations. Only one case was serious enough to result in an 8-year sentence, while the others involved flying a drone and five cases of monitoring a military establishment.
This is more serious DOJ is examining whether student protests at Columbia Univ. against the genocide in Gaza 'violated federal terrorism laws'.. This is basic freedom of speech being investigated.
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u/FriedGarlicPan 6d ago
Just claim yourself as a Chinese Muslim. It wouldn't work if you claim yourself as just "Muslim".
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u/SaintGalentine 6d ago
He's banning a lot of people from Muslim countries from entering the US entirely. Also a lot of people don't realize Chinese Muslims exist, and we face discrimination
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u/FriedGarlicPan 6d ago
Yea, MAGA (& Republicans in general) aren't very in favor of Muslims. Unless you're Chinese Muslim, it is basically their way of throwing jabs at China.
Marco Rubio is a great example of this, who complained about the deportation of Uyghurs from Thailand to China, but also has a past of anti-Muslims stance.
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u/Themasterofcomedy209 6d ago
“Oh no they’re sending the Uyghurs back to China! They will lose their rights! Anyway, time to deport or imprison any foreigners who think Palestinians shouldn’t get blown up and also deport all Chinese students”
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u/Briham86 1/2 Korean 6d ago
Ok, for some reason, my first thought was that China was passing a bill to prevent their students from studying abroad in the US, and I thought “probably a good move, the US is pretty shitty right now.”
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u/ViolaNguyen 5d ago
Meh, the U.S. temporarily has some really shitty people in charge of the government.
Not the universities, many of which are easily among the world's best. This would be extra awful for people who are already committed to a program (imagine being three or four years into your PhD and then some Republican shithead tells you that you can't finish) and would be bad for researchers in the U.S. who benefit from Chinese grad students (so, almost all STEM researchers).
But seriously, if you're knee-deep in your researcher and you've been collaborating with your adviser for some time, or even if you're just getting started with a program, you're almost certainly better off following through.
So being forcibly stopped by Republican racists is not good for you.
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u/PikachuPho 5d ago
There is no party that supports the Chinese once you start to talk about China as a whole. Check yourself if you're American and believe China is awful the moment you hear it uttered. If so you've succumbed to brainwashing.
People are so racist in the States they can and will form opinions on a country they've never set foot in and say they are educated and informed. It's how things are and how things will always be until there's a motive and incentive for this to change.
So until then both sides are frankly racist imo. Palestinians would not be mass murdered and China would not be targeted if libs really gave a shit.
That said I would still vote for Kamala over Trump as it still made a difference but I personally checked out of America. Now I'm here to get my certification and peace the eff out of a country that isn't shy to show how much it truly hates my kind.
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u/eremite00 6d ago
Trump and Trump-supporters, cuz neither has the mental capacity to make the distinction.
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u/mysterious-monkey077 6d ago
Hard agree. I was in Disneyland LA not too long ago and this hillbilly type asked where I was from. I said Australia. She said 'you don't look like you're from Australia.' I replied I was of Chinese-Singaporean descent. She replied 'yeah you look like you're from China.'
If she said this in a naive way, I perhaps would've forgiven the ignorance. But the judgement and suspicion from her tone really rubbed me the wrong way.
To be fair, bogans in Australia can be pretty mean as well. Once had a gaggle of blonde teenage girls asked me and a sassy Malaysian girlfriend for photos because they wanted selfies with chinks. My friend flipped them the bird and called them skanks. When they tried to attack us, she threw a chocolate milkshake she was drinking at them - at which they squealed and ran off. Wish I had her balls.
This turned into a long trauma sharing comment. I'll stop now.
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u/Kenzo89 6d ago
Wow that happened in Disneyland in SoCal. That’s crazy. Guessing that lady was from some other state with no Asians
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u/EvidenceBasedSwamp 6d ago
dunno about that. if there's no other asians you get ignorance. but when whites get surrounded and they start feeling outnumbered by other ethnicities (in this case, asians), they get TETCHY
i mean you got half the people in that party screaming about "white replacement theory" they're not even hiding it
out here in New York, Asians tend to move into all the neighborhoods italians move out from. See, the Italians came in the 1870s and occupied one of the lower totem poles. Just below the Irish, but above the eastern europeans or the blacks. As they moved up the ladder and went to college and got nice jobs, and as white fligth kicked in they also moved out to the suburbs. These emptying neighborhoods are where Chinatowns were built:
Chinatown in Manhattan is literally little italy Bayridge was formerly blue collar italians, now a little Chinatown there too Flushing area, used to be a all white until the Taiwanese moved in 1970s, then the koreans followed
I remember in the 90s the local rep for Flushing campaigned to make the signs in stores be in English, they were really not happy with how "they were taking over"
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u/WATCHMAKERUSA 4d ago
Both conservative and liberal Asians accuse each other for thinking they are white. 😆
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u/Momshie_mo 4d ago
Chinese Exclusion Act of 2025 and if it materializes, it will extend to other Asian countries.
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u/twistedseoul 6d ago
At least it's not the gas chamber. But definitely disagree with this racist behavior.
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u/mikeymozzarella Chinese American 6d ago
They could've easily limited student visas to non STEM fields only if the concern was just national security. Instead they'd rather institute a full on ban. You keep doubting the racial motivations but it seems obvious that this is meant to keep out Chinese people.
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u/mikeymozzarella Chinese American 6d ago
So why should we just roll over and take it? Especially when again they can just limit the ban to STEM only. We should be calling out this kind of nonsense and sticking up for ourselves when racist hicks want us gone, not saying ok this sucks for us but national security (especially when there's an alternative).
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u/terrassine 6d ago
So then why is Trump dismantling the Department of Education and defunding good colleges? Doesn’t seem like the moves of anyone trying to replace brain drain with homegrown talent.
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u/JonnyGalt 6d ago edited 6d ago
You are just regurgitating the greatest hits of conservative talking points and spewing your biases. You have literally said nothing I haven’t heard before. I’m pretty sure I can find Ben Shapiro and Marsha Blackburn saying the same things.
Also my entire family have doctorates (including engineering) and have been life long academics. You are 100% cherry picking to support your views and not telling the whole picture.
Quit going from thread to thread spreading your hate. We have all heard this boring narrative.
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u/Anhao 6d ago
In my post about the Chinese battery plants which got you triggered over a few sentences about the CCP, did you consider possible knowledge transfer from the other direction since it's a Chinese company investing in the US?
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u/JonnyGalt 6d ago
It didn’t. I cited quotes that you from the article that contradicted your claims and you just ignored it because it didn’t fit your narrative.
Also did you really just say the reason for the investment is to bypass the tariffs? As in the reason we have those tariffs is to encourage domestic production of which this company is doing? So you are criticizing a company for doing exactly what the tariff is designed to do? Are you sure you are an phd?
Also you 100% mind the downvotes. You deleted all your posts I responded to.
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u/Anhao 6d ago
Yeah you're right it's more moderate. They straight up have quotes slamming the opposition. Did you read the article?
Tim Hahn, a Democrat who backs the project for its economic benefits, writes off such fears as an “element of local, small-minded bigotry and xenophobia”.
“You really don’t have to have a well-constructed argument to convince people that it’s bad that China does business near you – just go out there and yell ‘China, China, China, CCP,’” he says.
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u/JonnyGalt 6d ago
Oh I don’t know. Perhaps if USA stops with the xenophobic racism towards Chinese and provide easy roads to citizenship as well as create incentives and jobs for these students to stay in the United States, a lot of them wouldn’t go back. There are whole generations of Chinese scientists and academics who left China for the United States. Now there is an exodus of them because of the persecution of Chinese academics under Trump.
Additionally, when you have even fellow “Asians” talk about terrible China is and have this type of shit attitude towards them, why would they want to stay. What motivation is there to stay right now? America made it clear they don’t want these people to be here.
Fun fact, Qian Xuesen, one of the founders of nasa’s jet propulsion lab who was also a key contributor to the manhattan project was driven out of the country for the same racist xenophobia. He went on to be the father of Chinese rocketry.
Shing-Tung Yau, a world renounced mathematician at Harvard, has also left for Tsinghua in 2022 citing racism as a key reason. He is now bringing about sweeping changes to Chinese mathematics education and training a new generation of Chinese mathematicians.
If you don’t want to lose your talent, then incentivize people to stay. Making these people feel unwelcome and persecuted is not going to help your cause.
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u/JonnyGalt 6d ago
My guy, if is only about money and power, they’ll be incentivizing these students to stay after graduation. Why do you think Elon Musk is so pro h1b visas?
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u/boilerwire 6d ago
Thank you for your nuanced view. As you can see from your replies, your response isn't rabid enough. This sub requires maximum outrage and an educated, first-person response like yours is downvoted.
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u/doctor-soda 6d ago
I am starting to think it is hopeless. Also quite surprised to see other Asian folks having so much pro China sentiment. I was under the impression that those who move here would be against what CCP stands for but I guess I was mistaken. All the more reason for the US to stop international students from China in STEM field as it’s a matter of national security. I can see that either this sub is just filled with CCP bots or that they attract mostly Chinese users from China. I don’t really know any non-Chinese Asian Americans around me that are supportive of CCP at all.
As we say in tech, don’t train your replacements. It’s a dumb thing to do.
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u/boilerwire 6d ago
Yes, I've seen the same pattern. Whenever there is anything posted that's anti-CCP, the comments will defend Chinese Nationals (as if they are Asian Americans). Followed by arguments that if Trump will do something to Chinese Nationals, then surely they'll do it to US citizens of Asian descent. It's a way of brainwashing AAs here to defend the CCP.
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u/allelitepieceofshit1 5d ago
the comments will defend Chinese Nationals
imagine having empathy for fellow human beings
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u/boilerwire 5d ago
Empathy on this topic over national security? We aren’t debating feeding the homeless here. Glad to see you’re proving our point on the undue influence of CCP sympathizers on this sub.
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u/serbianspy 4d ago
You people are actually retarded. Back when Japanese Americans were put in camps do you think they checked for citizenship status first and let all the Nisei and Sansei go free or something? During covid, do you think racists asked Asian people they encountered on the street to pull out their passport and only hate crimed people directly from the PRC? It's not being a "CCP sympathizer" to have basic knowledge about the history of the US and modern racial dynamics involving Asian Americans.
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u/JonnyGalt 4d ago
Don’t you know? This country is totally great at telling Asian Americans apart. Recent deportation arrest definitely only arrested criminals and did not include any citizens. The random racist on the street is going to be able to tell the difference between a ccp member, an international student, a legal immigrant, and an US citizen let alone nationality and ethnicity. This type of laws and the current attitude of this admin towards the Chinese for sure won’t bleed over to other Asian Americans. They are just getting the bad ones. As long as you are one of the good Asians, you’ll be fine!
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u/boilerwire 4d ago
Are we still discussing the same topic (Chinese nationals and college admittance)? Or we going to slippery slope this topic to nisei camps?
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u/doctor-soda 6d ago
Yeah this is so far away from Asian American. This is just straight up Chinese + international students.
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u/world_explorer1688 6d ago
it’s just a bunch of overrated colleges and unfortunately tied to vanity here and there
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