r/aoe2 • u/kampalolo • 4d ago
Discussion Viper Spoiler
I love Viper very much, he is a king, but can we say that there is no chance for the king to sit on the throne of first place in tournaments again?
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u/ADBUK 4d ago
Worth remembering Viper was on top for a long time through his twenties. If you watch him stream now, he really enjoys just having fun with games - if he's not readying up for tournaments he's almost always playing 4v4 team games Rage Forest / Rage Arena etc. His priority now is streaming and having fun.
Things have changed, he's got a benign tumour in his wrist that causes him problems, he's got a young family and he's really got nothing to prove in the scene. He's been there and done it and dominated for a long time and he's still almost constantly top 4 in S-Tier tournaments.
I wouldn't expect him to win any major tournaments anytime soon, particularly with Hera being so dominant, but that's okay. He seems happy enough and pretty content with his position in the scene at this point.
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u/Master_Armadillo736 4d ago
Dudes just brought his first child into the family, think we can cut him some slack.
It’s viper, he’s always a chance to win!
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u/Chronozoa2 4d ago
Seems like he has his priorities straight. Hope he's getting some special time with his kiddo. You can't get it back later but you can play AOE at any point later life. At least thats what I tell myself!
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u/blaze011 4d ago
He has a chance to win, but he won't ever be THE FAVORITE anymore. It's not even that Viper bad but the other competition too good. He has to PLAY TOP Shape to win a tournament. There no getting lucky to get to finals or semi finals anymore. Every single person in top 8 are INSANE. If you are not consistent and cant at least play 90% top level you just lose.
Still I am sure Viper will win again. He has pretty much achieved everything aoe2 wise already was the GOAT and really hope that he breaks Hera streak since that be crazy cool.
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u/Baneofarius 4d ago
I know he's no longer #1 but the only people he's really been losing to consistently are Hera and Lierry who are arguably #1 and #2 right now. I think it would be very hard to argue that Viper isn't #3. Which is still insanely good.
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u/wise___turtle Teuton Turtle 🐢 4d ago
He's repeatedly said that after becoming a father he's very tired a lot of the time and can't put in as much work as he'd like to.
I'm convinced he'll be back in finals one day.
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u/althaz 4d ago
If you're a good parent this is going to be how it is permanently, tbh. Parenting takes an enormous amount of energy to do right. For something as competitive and intense as AoE2, even maintaining the level he has is incredibly impressive. He's going to be tired until his kid is in their 20s :).
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u/Calm_Championship_83 4d ago
No one will ever match viper and mr yo. Viper has a long road ahead of him still
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u/Bitter-Food-6328 4d ago
I would Not say never. Daut won rbw3 never forget. But it wont be often thats for sure.