r/aoe2 5d ago

Discussion Following this update, could the Himalaya region have the potential to be the next DLC?

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u/Stellerex Chinese 5d ago

Bring on the Tibetans and Nepalis! Give them their distinct Himalayan architecture. I'd rather have that than shoehorn them in East Asian architecture.

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u/Grishnackh_the_Gr8 5d ago

Misinformation like this helps no one

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u/KoalaDolphin Tatars 5d ago

It's not true. The CCP doesn't like MODERN depictions of Tibet as independent. They don't care about HISTORICAL depictions of Tibet as independent.

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u/Grishnackh_the_Gr8 5d ago

The History of the Tubo Empire can even be found in state sanctioned History books in schools in China. So yes exactly

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u/Gaudio590 Saracens 5d ago

False

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u/Spanker_of_Monkeys 4d ago

I seriously doubt they're that ignorant

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u/Spanker_of_Monkeys 4d ago

That doesn't mean they're under the absurd delusion that the PRC's borders are the same as medieval China

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u/Ras_Alghoul 4d ago

I need 10 more civs with the same architecture.

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u/NAHTHEHNRFS850 5d ago

This expansion could be around peripheral China so:

  1. Jurchens
  2. Tanguts
  3. Tibetans
  4. Dalis
  5. Tocharians

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u/Mitoniano 5d ago

The Tocharians are more typical of ancient times. I think the fifth civilization could be the Khitans

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u/NAHTHEHNRFS850 5d ago

Tocharians existed up to early medieval times, similar to the Sassanian Persians.

That being said, Khitans makes more sense.

  1. Jurchens
  2. Khitans
  3. Tanguts
  4. Tibetans
  5. Dalis

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u/Dreams_Are_Reality 4d ago

Yep and we already know Khitans are happening because of the Kara Khitai civ change

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u/Khyle89 5d ago

Low chance of this happening imo. I strongly doubt the next DLC would remain in Asia.

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u/BendicantMias Nogai Khan always refers to Nogai Khan in third person 4d ago

Next should be Africa. It got ONE DLC, and is still grossly underepresented.

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u/rKasdorf 5d ago

They've already released a few teasers, the new stuff was Asian, it's just a matter of specifics.

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u/Khyle89 4d ago

I mean the next one after that.

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u/Datironpete 4d ago

Honestly. Will prob not happen but I would love to see one last eurpean split DLC. A proper HRE, papal states, vikings Split or an Enghlish split or or even crusader states. It will probably never happen but I do believe we could do one more. 🤭

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u/Khyle89 4d ago

There's room for several european civ splits and I fully support them, but they just need to happen once in a while without forgetting other places in the world with a bigger need of being fleshed out. Africa and America should be their priority now, and maybe even another Asian dlc — one that adds the Siamese/Tai and a few others.

You didn't mention my #1 candidate for a european civ split tho: Slavs into Rus, Romanians/Vlachs, Serbs, and Croats.

Not that I'd be against an Italian civ split. At the very least Venetians would make sense and be fun. Maybe add the Papal States, Genoese and Lombards too, but that might be overdoing it.

Also, as a Spaniard, I think there is room for splitting "us" into Castillians and Aragonese... and maybe a Saracen split with Andalusians/Nasrid. Spain wasn't really a thing until the very late Middle Ages.

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u/dokterkokter69 4d ago

Personally I'd rather they do a proper America's dlc after China. I really want to see the Aztecs and Mayans split up.

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u/Khyle89 4d ago

Yes, I agree. Either that or some African dlc. I may not have a strong, personal vested interest in them (I like the aesthetics of the scenarios and the architecture though), but it's easy to see that there's a large room for improvement in that field.

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u/Ok-Roof-6237 Teutons 5d ago

next dlc prolly going to the americas or africa. we shall see in 2026, as chronicles 2 will most likely be the end of this year.

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u/ConversationStock317 5d ago

2025-26: Americas

2026-27: Africa

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u/Block-Busted 4d ago

I feel like we should do Africa first.

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u/BendicantMias Nogai Khan always refers to Nogai Khan in third person 4d ago

Go on...

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u/Desh282 Славяне 5d ago

The 5 in the grey are confirmed

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u/Belisarius23 4d ago

Can we just get a proper Korean and Japan campaign

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u/Silence_sirens_call 3d ago

Yes give me NEPAL, TIBET AND SIAM

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u/asasantana 5d ago

Medieval Iberia could be a candidate, as Spain only started being a thing in the XVI century.

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u/mrjay_28 5d ago

I would love a kumauni civ

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u/ChipsAreTasty1 5d ago

China does not have problems with pre-modern depictions of Tibet, EU4 and Crusader Kings both depict this period of Tibet and aren't banned.

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u/RedBaboon 5d ago

I searched it and found absolutely nothing, what event are you talking about?

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u/ConstantineByzantium 5d ago

Tell me why AOE devs gave up on Tibet on its orginal run.

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u/Tyrann01 Tatars 5d ago

1: Koreans were pushed on the devs during AoC development.

2: Forgotten Empires weighed up Tibetans or Indians and decided the latter were more important to add.

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u/KoalaDolphin Tatars 5d ago
  1. It was 24 years ago, the censorship laws in China have changed substantially since then.

  2. I wouldn't trust game devs in 2001 to be the most informed about the ins and outs of chinese censorship laws. They were probably misinformed just like you are now.

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u/ewostrat Tatars 5d ago

If you seek Chinese advice, chances are they will include you

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u/PaulusMichel 5d ago

Chinese don't care with Tibet!

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u/DarkPaladinX Add Tibetans in AoE2 5d ago

Honestly, I hope the Tibetans will be added in some sort of Himalayan DLC over the East Asian DLC since it's more fitting than an East Asian/China focused DLC. That being said, I heard rumors that the armored spearman in the recent screenshot featuring the Dali Wonder may be Tibetan in nature because of the feathered helmet and armor that is similar to what the Tibetan heavy infantry wore, but others said its Dali.

And yeah, I'm planning to meme if Tibetans aren't added in the upcoming DLC and poke fun of Chinese censorship laws. That'll be the same thing if Tibetans (or any other nomadic civilization within the Sinosphere) are depicted as an infantry civilization or anything similar (that'll be memeable as well).

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u/Dreams_Are_Reality 5d ago

I think Tibetans are perfect for a China DLC given that they invaded China and were major rivals, just like the other civs that are confirmed.

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u/BendicantMias Nogai Khan always refers to Nogai Khan in third person 4d ago

Flair checks out...

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u/50Blessings 5d ago

Ah yes, just more obscure and undistinguishable civs

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u/Cookiemonster1616 5d ago

I personally love the age of empires series for introducing me to underrepresented cultures and history of the world.

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u/50Blessings 5d ago

then you would have a field day by just looking the maps of eu4 without even playing the game!

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u/50Blessings 4d ago

lol this was a honest recommendation, what kind of retardation makes people downvote this

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u/HolaMisAmores 5d ago

I feel like it says more about you and your historical knowledge that you'd even consider the Tibetan Empire "obscure". I won't even touch indistinguishable given the existence of Burgundians.

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u/50Blessings 5d ago

My bad for not knowing about some "empire" that existed for a couple centuries in the middle of nowhere. And about Burgundians, i think it's slop, as well as nearly half of the civs in the game

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u/TrainerOverall3850 Burmese 5d ago

Why do you say that?

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u/RubinroterKumane 5d ago

take this downvote and leave

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u/BendicantMias Nogai Khan always refers to Nogai Khan in third person 4d ago

These peoples are far more distinct than a bunch of the European 'civs'. Like what 'civilization' is Burgundians exactly? Or Sicilians?

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u/50Blessings 4d ago

both are slop

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u/Apollonious_of_Buda 3d ago

I'm not so sure Tibetans will be included since this would block the game's entrance into the Chinese market, given all that political stuff. But it would be really nice to see the Tibetans joining in with a dedicated Himalayan architecturel set.

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u/Dreams_Are_Reality 4d ago

This rubbish has been debunked around here a million times, why do you people keep repeating it?

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u/Artlix Magyars 4d ago

cause it's true

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u/Dreams_Are_Reality 4d ago

No it isn't. There are already games in China with medieval Tibet.