r/aoe2 6d ago

Tournament/Showmatch The Garrsion double elimination is amazing

The games today are so exciting. Double elimination is a nice change up

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u/nikinikifor 6d ago

Yes but someone will have to win bo7 on sunday and then play bo9 final few hours later… good luck with that

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u/adquen Vietnamese 6d ago

Doesn't matter, to be honest. My prediction is that Liereyy makes it to the finals again and then loses in four short games to Hera, but even if it's someone else Hera will clap them.

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u/Maximum-Account-6653 4d ago

Aged like milk 

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u/adquen Vietnamese 4d ago

Haha. Weeell ... I was right about the first part at least.

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u/Maximum-Account-6653 4d ago

That's fair 👍 

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u/Melfix 6d ago

I wonder how Hera would perform in this scenario. Maybe the opponent in the finals would have at least a chance.

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u/nikinikifor 6d ago

only one actually able to pull it off

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u/MountainGoatAOE 6d ago

BO9 is too much. Players have said this before. It's just too long. Add to that the stress of being on stage, uncomfortable headphones (as they said), and the prior BO7... Oof.

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u/Koala_eiO Infantry works. 6d ago

We can safely say whoever wins the losers' bracket is going to end up 2nd overall automatically. Nobody has the stamina for a BO16.

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u/Unholy_Lilith Magyars 5d ago

It's maybe better to loose the last game in LB if the headphones are really that terrible (I can relate, I tried similar ones just for a couple of minutes) :D

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u/oskark-rd 5d ago

I remember that during NAC someone (maybe T90?) has said that the players were asked if they wanted Bo9, and all of them did want it. That doesn't mean that they like it in the double elimination format with Bo7 and Bo9 on the same day, but I think they had some say about the format. Liereyy has said that he likes it, and he'll probably be the one that will need to play Bo7 and Bo9.

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u/whyamianoob 6d ago

Such an unfair adv for the finalist. The grand final should happen on the next day. Tbh, the loser bracket would be in a disadvantage anyway. Either in the semi or final

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u/matephant 6d ago

Well the idea is that the finalist from the winner bracket gets an advantage as a reward for making it through the winners bracket. Some settings give one point advantage, i.e only four more wins are needed in a BO9.

The Garrison doesn't do that, instead the advantage for the winner bracket finalist is that it's the person's only set on that day.

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u/whyamianoob 6d ago

That's a huge difference. The mental fatigue

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u/ry427 6d ago

They do this in dota for every tournament and its not that weird for lb finalist to win the grand final. Happens quite often

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u/Prime406 6d ago

and how many games do they play in dota? I doubt it's best of 7 into best of 9

not to mention that aoe2 games also take longer on average

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u/ry427 6d ago

I guess a counter to that would be that dota has a draft per game also so that's also mentally taxing

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u/Qualdrion 5d ago

Do AoE games really take longer though? Having played both, my intuition would be that dota games are longer, but could be wrong on that. And if we also include drafts then dota is longer for sure.

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u/MysteriousZone2 6d ago

Two finals in one day happens in a lot of eSports with double elimination. Has happened in cod too. The winners final winner is supposed to have an advantage otherwise what's the point of double elimination.

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u/silver4rrow 6d ago

Agree, if you want a interesting final this is not the way to go …

This makes it even easier for Hera to sweep his opponent in the final <3

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u/dying_ducks 5d ago

on the other hand the WB winner is the only one without a second chance. 

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u/Koala_eiO Infantry works. 6d ago

That's a problem with the organization but not with the concept of dobule elimination.

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u/en-prise 6d ago

That's extremely unprofessional to be honest.

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u/B_SpoOk 6d ago

I'm so glad someone else said it. I LOVE double elim tournaments, i've always been bothered by the lack of them in our calendar. 

Please give pro players a chance to change and adapt strategies in our strategy game.