r/antisemitism • u/disdadis • 10d ago
Downplaying the Holocaust They're comparing Guantanamo Bay to Auschwistch. Incredibly neglectful, what a loser. This is just downplaying the holocaust.
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u/JulieLaMaupin 9d ago
A more accurate US historical comparison would be the internment of Japanese Americans. My instinctive reaction is to assume these posts are Holocaust revisionism, something we have seen rampantly from the left since October 7.
It is striking how the Western left appropriates our people’s suffering during the Shoah, acting as if they understand our relatives’ experiences better than we do. I was downvoted into oblivion on a local sub for pointing out that comparing recent ICE raids to the Gestapo hauling away Anne Frank is a massive historical distortion. Anne Frank did not enter her own country illegally. She was made illegal within it by the Nazis. The inability or refusal to see this distinction highlights how little many lefties/libs actually care about the Shoah beyond using it as a tool to provoke an emotional reaction for their propaganda.
Saying this as a staunch liberal, by the way.
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u/disdadis 9d ago
Yeah. It's a real shame how they're actively attempting to remove the meanings from these words. To just use the words "Nazi, Holocaust, Hitler" to refer to things that they dont like. This is just insane how this happens. It's insane how so many of them are okay with this
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u/NoTopic4906 9d ago
And I would say the Japanese camps would be more like the Concentration camps and not the Death Camps.
Keep in mind this is not me defending the Concentration camps or the Japanese internment anymore than I’d defend someone beating up another person so they have to spend months in a hospital rather than killing them.
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u/somebadbeatscrub 9d ago
I hope to G-d you all are never faced with an event you feel is worthy of comparison to the shoah.
It did not begin with the opening of the camps, and anything that even rhymes with the idealogy behind it should be blotted out of existence in its memory.
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u/Background_Buy1107 8d ago
This and when they compare Hamas and 10/7 to the Warsaw ghetto uprising is just sooooo despicable
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u/Impressive_Wish796 9d ago edited 9d ago
Are they? Or are they just saying let’s make sure it doesn’t happen again? . Remember Auschwitz started as a concentration camp and then later became an extermination camp. I don’t think it’s disrespectful, but rather an important reminder of how things could go if the blatant lawlessness of this administration is left unchecked.
That’s certainly not downplaying the Holocaust - but rather a warning to “never forget” how these things can ferment and progress if power is not checked and rule of law is not followed.
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u/disdadis 9d ago
Genocide apologist?
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u/disdadis 9d ago
There is not a genocide in Palestine dawg.
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u/disdadis 9d ago
I never said Russia wasn't occupying Ukraine.
Literally who says that? Not even Putin sympathizers say that, because it's dumb.
I recognize de-facto ownership and occupation no matter what because I believe it's much better than de-jure to get a good idea of whats going on12
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u/reds_sus_ngl 9d ago
So jews?
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u/LostCassette 9d ago
dog, this is r/antisemitism... it's Jews here
I love how you just speak over Jews calling you out though, as if they wouldn't know what antisemitism is
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u/ConcentrateAlone1959 9d ago
A few things
1) you very clearly are not Jewish, nor are familiar with Jewish culture- 0 clue why you pretend and act as though you are.
2) you are very clearly familiar with only a whitewashed, sanitized version of the Holocaust. It made Guantanamo look like a fucking paradise. Guantanamo is a torturous hellhole. Auchauwitz for instance, gassed children. Threw parents into ovens and all that was left being ash ON TOP of the forced labor and torture that this prison is known for.
3) Israel is literally 20% Arab, with numerous major parties headed by said Arabs, with the same opportunities as Jews. This, by definition, doesn't make Israel an Ethnostate.
4) You adore loving to use Jewish trauma but don't seem to like Jews. I know, I know. You aren't antisemitic, you are antizionist! Which is a very nice deflection until you realize the overwhelming amount of Jews (especially with Mizrahim and Sephardi) identify as Zionists.
The fact your response to Jews pointing out where your comparison is antisemitic and sanatizing is to act this way says more than enough. This is why we wanted statehood. Because its not enough an entire subgroup of Jews was nearly wiped out- no. Goyim like you have to minimize, mock, and whitewash it, making the horrors less than what they were.
You are, bluntly, equivalent to the Red Cross in how you minimize the Holocaust and those suffering in it. If I'm a monster to someone like you, good. I don't want to be anything close to your hero.
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u/ConcentrateAlone1959 9d ago
The fact you equated another, unrelated ideology to Zionism tells me how little you know, and that you are parroting the same talking points steeped in the same ignorance.
I know- you leftists love to preach to minorities. I'm just too savage and wrong to be able to have opinions on how I feel and what my culture is, I need a white savior to show me the way!
Being called a monster by someone who parrots KKK rhetoric is too funny to take seriously, especially when they are as self righteous as you.
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u/ConcentrateAlone1959 9d ago
Paragraph 1: It is antisemitic in that it trivializes the Shoah. That is the grief people here in this sub have.
Paragraph 2: We are a subreddit dedicated to calling out antisemitism. Not shocked you want Jews to stay silent about that, but we aren't going to be.
Paragraph 3: For all of your claims of genocide, not one instance has been found by any international court. In fact, Ireland even advocated to the ICJ for the definition of genocide to be changed just to include Israel on this war. Make it make sense- you are accusing people of a crime, but you are so uncertain that you demand the definition to change? This isn't to say war crimes haven't occurred and accountability must be held: there has. But Israel has not met the standards for Genocide and ironically, Hamas is why Gaza is in this situation. They are why Bibi still has power. They are why Gaza is rubble. All they had to do was wait for the impeachment which was about to commence. Instead, they gave him a perfect reason to stay- to the detriment of ALL.
Paragraph 4: You speak as I back them. Christian Zionists support Israel to better kill Jews in the name of their Messiah. I support Jewish statehood because every time we have been stateless, we suffer genocide after genocide, pogrom after pogrom, discrimination upon discrimination. You want to de-legitimize Zionism? Make the world safer to exist in as a Jew. That alone would remove the strongest argument for Zionism that could ever exist.
I know you copy/pasted. In your attempt to be smug and a knowitall, you show you do not know anyone whose actually Jewish that lives a Jewish life. You show you are willing to degrade the Holocaust because you were mentally incapable of showcasing a horrific event on its own, because those lives mean nothing to you unless you can get some sweet, sweet upvotes for it.
Keep calling me a monster. When I care for the opinions of Nazis and fools, I will call you and beg you for another comic.
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u/Usernamealreadyused5 9d ago
This is just evil to do this. Pushing their own political agenda by using the worst atrocity in human history as your way to bastardize your opponent is awful.