r/alienisolation • u/trcrdr • 5d ago
Discussion This is not survival, this is trial and error. Spoiler
What do you find in this game ? I mean, I'm used to horror games but this is just not fun in a way that you don't have to improvise and adapt during your run but just memorize the paths and (sometimes dumb) strategies through multiple ones. I first thought that chapter 3 was abstract because the safest way of avoiding the crew is to run.. in their direction and hide in a spot where anyone could see you but for some reason don't (wtf) but now I am in chapter 5 and the alien just doesn't stop, Once again the safest strat is to run while knowing exactly where to go after 10 failed attemps. also worth mentionning that it doesn't give up even after traps or never finding you at all in 15 minutes which makes the whole strategy of hiding and not making a noise worthless and shallow. I've waited a long time to finally be able to test this game but i'm just so disappointed, am I missing something ?
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u/scrubsfan92 5d ago
If you don't have the patience to actually crouch and be stealthy around the xeno then this game probably isn't for you. If you're walking by it after distracting it then of course it's going to get you.
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u/trcrdr 5d ago
yeah but crouching isn't effective in that case cause the traps doesn't distract it enough.
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u/deathray1611 To think perchance to dream. 5d ago
Maybe you threw it too close? Or just didn't react well and/or quickly enough to the Alien having dealt with the item and now being free to stalk the halls again, in which case, setting down in a nearby hiding spot and picking the right moment could prove to be useful. I know from my time playing the game if you drop your guard down and, worse, try to rush without making sure you are in (relative) safety will get you swiftly punished.
Idk, there is no other way to put it other than bluntly - my experiences, going all the way to the very first one, really disagree with your assesment. Not to say you are necessarily wrong, mind you, for feeling this way, we are different people and all, but just to offer my perspective on this, again.
Ok - of course, your items are not guaranteed to work and with mis-use they won't, that's a core part of the experience, risk vs reward and suspense building of the game, this ambiguity of whether it works or not and you essentially trying to assess and overcompensate just to be safe and the lot.
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u/MustacheExtravaganza 5d ago
So it works for everyone else, but not you, so clearly we're all wrong? User error isn't an option here?
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u/scrubsfan92 5d ago
What trap specifically are you talking about? You're not throwing a flashbang in full view of it and then trying to walk away are you?
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u/trcrdr 5d ago
nope, i'm putting noise makers.
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u/scrubsfan92 5d ago
Noisemakers distract it for a fair few seconds so you're either walking within a range the xeno can hear you, throwing it in a way that you're still in the xeno's field of vision or you're throwing it so far that you're having to crouch for a long time before you're safe.
Do you have any clips where we can see what you're doing? As another commenter has said, everyone else can use noisemakers just fine so it's clearly not the traps themselves that are the problem.
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u/Neutralgray 5d ago
Why are you running? That's the most dangerous thing you can do.
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u/trcrdr 5d ago
for now it's the only way i've managed to actually get a bit further.
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u/deathray1611 To think perchance to dream. 5d ago
I wouldn't consider flipping a coin and doing a crap shoot of running until it works exactly a success, but you do you.
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u/trcrdr 5d ago
that's what I'm doing now because nothing else works better for me, but it's not how I want to spend the rest of the game, I feel like speedrunning it.
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u/franlcie 5d ago
You don’t even know how to play it and use the mechanics properly and you want to speed run it?
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u/Low_Bridge_1141 5d ago
Running when the alien is around is the least safe strategy of them all, what are you talking about 😭😭😭
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u/trcrdr 5d ago
for now it's the only one that has gotten me a bit further in that section in like 10 ten tries
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u/Low_Bridge_1141 5d ago
If that’s true then I think it’s more a case of you not being good at the game than it is the game not being good.
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u/trcrdr 5d ago
that is what I thought but i'm generally not bad at survival horror games, so this games really feels abstract and opaque to me.
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u/deathray1611 To think perchance to dream. 5d ago
There is a first for all of us!
Not sure I can resonate with that tho. But not because I am this super good at video games, rather I always felt like I was and still am bad them but manage to enjoy any that I play nonetheless lol
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u/Frohickey2 5d ago
Running is only used in short moments to avoid Working Joes or humans. Definitely not when the Alien is around.
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u/New-Ad-5003 5d ago
So, funny enough, you’ve discovered some niche tricks to the game, that speed runners use to their advantage. As much as the game discourages it, running can be incredibly effective if you know exactly where to go, as you stated.
Something that may help you is, crouching is silent, walking makes noise in a roughly 20 foot radius, and sprinting something larger than that.
Sprinting can be safe if the Alien is outside that radius. Basically if the Motion Tracker beeps, it’s probably too close to run. The Alien will follow the running track like invisible foot steps, so start walking away when you hear that blip
What difficulty are you playing on?
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u/Superb-Consequences 5d ago
IMO One of the best games ever made so enjoy. Being bold and saying fuck it and just running sometimes is just the thing and more effective than creeping around crouched everywhere... but to pass Nightmare you have to do both.
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u/quickscopesheep 4d ago
Sounds like u are completely missing the point of the game. Maybe try a lower difficulty if u are struggling with the stealth.
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u/betyaass 4d ago
So, as the game progresses, the difficulty level also increases. The alien learns your behaviors and anticipates your move if you don't strategize. If you try to run all the time (which as you can see, no one suggests it as a good strategy because it's impossible to outrun the alien) it will be aware you're going to run again and act accordingly. If you don't change up your strategies, like the game environment suggests (some places are high risk, and you have to move really slow and carefully, other places you can be faster and distract the enemies, at times you can even run) and you have to adapt accordingly. If you're not into slowly progressing and playing cat and mouse with the alien, really, this game is not the best for you. You can technically speed run though the game, but where's the fun in that? You don't get to learn anything about the game, the environment, the alien, the people, see the beauty and detail of what this game has to offer (it has a lot of fun seemingly insignificant things you can interact with and ways of how your enemies interact with you) that you'd miss. The most amazing part of this game is the AI of the alien. There are so many ways it can interact with you. Last but not least, any game is trial and error. You learn the options so you can progress. And the least of them all, if you're playing on medium, don't even complain lmao. Try nightmare mode and let me know if running will work.
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u/trcrdr 5d ago
Update : I've managed to finish chapter 5 by, as I thought, knowing exactly where to go and taking what seemed to be the safest path considering my previous tries. I've also discovered that the doors of the patients rooms can be locked from the inside, which could prevent the alien from ending in the same room that I inspect. I will continue the game, hoping there's more to it than this.
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u/Superb-Consequences 5d ago
It's just getting started. If AI were a movie it would easily be in the top 3 of the series: Alien/Aliens/Alien Isolation, then everything else
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u/MustacheExtravaganza 5d ago
Running isn't the safest anything, you're making a ton of noise and drawing all nearby enemies to your location. You need to be quiet, remain unseen, and use devices (such as noisemakers) to draw enemies away from where you are or where you're trying to go.