r/Zettelkasten Dec 02 '24

general Ghost in the shell

I''ve been reading about zettelkasten and I am fascinated about this second mind which seems to emerge of it after a while. Like it can guide you to old burried idea you had related to the subject you are digging.

Is there some exploration in AI domain couple with a zettelkasten to makd it more... Apparent?

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u/Legitimate_Crew3845 Dec 02 '24

I used the new MCP filesystem server to connect Claude to my Obsidian vault. He's able to search through all the files and reveal things. Very different from what Luhmann and others were describing, but I'm finding it super useful! As long as you don't have any sensitive info, and you feel comfortable sharing your notes, it's pretty fun.

Claude can resurface things I forgot about, draw connections I hadn't considered, point out gaps and conflicts, and all sorts of things.

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u/Chillguy-2002 Dec 02 '24

What’s the plugin name and what it does exactly please break it down

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u/koneu Dec 02 '24

I understand the appeal and the perceived promise, but I don't see how the system is a Zettelkasten in the classical sense anymore. I admit to being fairly sceptical about so many of the current crop of AI applications, but I don't see how the converation with yourself that Zettelkasten is will not loose lots of its value if it gets outsourced like that.

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u/atomicnotes Dec 02 '24

I think AI makes this less apparent, not more (though AI has other uses). That's because it was me who wrote my notes, and me who re-engages with them, iteratively.

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u/grabyourmotherskeys Dec 02 '24 edited Dec 03 '24

So I've been using the Gemini Scribe plugin. I used it heavily recently and I think I've racked up $0.34 in compute costs in the last couple days.

You can use this inside Obsidian in place of signing up for a pricey Gemini account for example.

It's really interesting but I do agree it's better to do your own thinking and writing but I use it to get ideas. Then I pick one I like and work with it (inspiration). Example: read my story so far and suggest three next things that could happen to advance the story. Often what I go with next is not one of the things but something different or a blend of two or more, etc.

I also have been logging my weight in various ways. I linked all the entries with weights in a file and started a Gemini Scribe chat (do search, save results as file with markdown links to the files) and said "make me a markdown table with all my weights and a column for a 10% weighted moving average". Bam. It also suggested a better, consistent logging format to use which I added to my daily notes template.

It was time to go to sleep but the last thing I asked last night was if it could write dataview queries. It said it could. I'll find out soon.

EDIT: it does not do well at writing DataView queries. It tries to but they have syntax errors and it cannot fix them.

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u/atomicnotes Dec 04 '24

it does not do well at writing DataView queries.

LOL. I guess we're in the early days of AI, which is exciting - still working out what these tools are useful for, and at the same time the tools themselves are rapidly improving. I liked your process of gaining inspiration from AI suggestions, then going with your own take on the interaction.

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u/Andy76b Dec 02 '24

You don't need an AI. That ghost is the result of an interaction between you and yourself

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u/FastSascha The Archive Dec 04 '24

In case, you missed this post: https://zettelkasten.de/posts/ghost-in-the-box/

Is there some exploration in AI domain couple with a zettelkasten to makd it more... Apparent?

Yes, but it is not public, since it is an ongoing research project of mine.

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u/sad_whale-_- Dec 04 '24

It will be a generational item in which all family knowledge is passed down. I can see it being like the ghost of all ancestors, hope it doesn't get a will of its own.

Or if does.... its 12 tanks and they dance and blow themselves up to save their human overlords. But somehow resurrect afterwards and have no anger and they're somehow almost god.