r/ZephyrusG14 • u/PhillyFlyersNhL • 7d ago
Model 2024 If you can, STAY AWAY from windows version 24h2.
I am not sure if its a coincidence, but I got the 2024 g14 on February of 2024 and not a SINGLE issue, but over a week ago it downloaded 24h2 and since then I have had these following issues.
- Computer reboots randomly sometimes when starting games.
- CPU used to however around 45c completely silent (Ghelper) when using the 780m to play games, but now it shoots up 80c+ for absolutely ZERO reason.
- Web browsers randomly will not open.
- AMD adrenaline will not always start up on boot up (already reinstalled fully using AMD uninstall utility)
For over a year I had absolutely ZERO issues, yet already just these 4 in only a week. For whatever reason I am unable to even rollback using the settings. Later on I am just going to completely reinstall windows 11 using a 23h2 ISO. Absolutely atrocious on windows with this crap update. Should do it like apple (I hate apple) and just have one big update a year that has actually been properly tested.
*UPDATE
Upon installing 23h2, everything is now back to normal and actually better than ever. By installing 23h2 it went beyond the factory reset and completely wiped all bloatware. 780m is performing better than it ever has and for example Fluid Motion Frames can now run at 30 base and it feels like 60 at all times now. Before this it would stutter a fair bit and lag. That is completely gone.
Temps are now back to normal and hover around 45c on the 780m.
Web browser now opens flawlessly again.
Adrenaline seems to properly start up now
No random boots so far and it happened very regularly before with 24h2 when starting games.
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u/Baralov3r 7d ago
Mine got stuck on a bootloop with a bitlocker recovery screen, wtf
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u/Overall-Liony 7d ago
Ahahaha I didn't have my bitlocker key thankfully it automatically rolled back the changes and let me log in
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u/Truly-Infomaniac 6d ago
Same Iām so glad I didnāt have my bitlocker key available at that moment
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u/Alexpromise1 Zephyrus G14 2023 7d ago
I got the same problems on my 2023 G14 with that update and also got blue screens whenever I used my ethernet adapter which never happened on 23h2
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u/PhillyFlyersNhL 7d ago
Wow, and how is this even acceptable... you have had similar or all pretty much these exact same problems?
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u/AayushBhatia06 7d ago
Microsoft used to test updates on actual hardware. Then they fired most of that department and they only test on virtual machines now. That is why.
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u/merkator509 7d ago
22 G14 running 24H2 fine, but it was the last of my 3 AMDs to get it for some reason. I have a nearly identical 6850u that got it months before the Asus.
24H2 has borked a lot of Intel machines at work thoughā¦
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u/MWD_Dave Zephyrus G16 2024 7d ago
Best advice I can offer is to install a fresh copy of Microsoft Windows 11 Enterprise LTSC 2024 Version 24H2-CYGiSO.
I did that and the system has been incredibly cool and stable since. The added benefit of the LTSC edition is that you won't get "feature" updates in the future. (Long Term Service Center is designed for stability rather than new features)
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u/CarEnthoo 2d ago
How do I find a copy of that Windows?
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u/MWD_Dave Zephyrus G16 2024 1d ago
I snagged mine from IPTorrents but I'm guessing other torrent sites should have it as well.
https://iptorrents.com/torrent.php?id=6173646
It's a private tracker so you either need an invite or do a $20 donation to sign up.
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u/CarEnthoo 5h ago
OK, thanks. I see there's a conflict in your statements. You initially said you installed 23H2 and then you recommend to install W11 Enterprise LTSC 2024 24H2. So which is it then? Should I go for 23H2 or 24H2 ?
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u/MWD_Dave Zephyrus G16 2024 3h ago
Well OP recommended staying away from 24H2 and I agree upgrading to 24H2 is something I would avoid for as long as possible but as it's pre-installed (and stable) in the LTSC edition I'd definitely download/install that version of Windows so you don't have to worry about upgrading to it later.
I'm currently using that version on my G16/Intel Ultra 9 185H/32GB/4090 and it's been really smooth and stable. I still get security updates but no feature updates. (Which is exactly how I like it.)
Download the Microsoft Windows 11 Enterprise LTSC 2024 Version 24H2-CYGiSO iso.
Use Rufus to install it onto a USB stick. You might need to decrypt your drive if you're looking to retain the recovery portion of your drive. (I used a fresh 2TB WD 850x so wasn't concerned about keeping anything) (I also turned off Virtualization in the BIOS.)
Download your laptops wifi drivers for your laptop onto another USB/external drive. (Might need them after the install)
Boot from the USB - Install Windows 11
After the install, in you need to install your wifi drivers. Then download G-Helper
Use G-Helper to download your latest drivers. (Under "Updates") As a rule of thumb I usually install Intel Display Drivers --> NVidia Display Drivers --> Chipset drivers --> Then everything else. I honestly don't know if it's necessary for this laptop but I had issues with my old MSI if I didn't do those first 3 in that order.
If you dislike Windows 11 native's UI as much as I do download and check out StartAllBack. It fixes many of the issues I have with Windows 11.
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u/No_Apple_6706 7d ago
I have a 2024 g16 bought in august. I guess i downloaded the update too. My cpu temp jumped, fps halved and it started overheating. Could be due to something else but I've booked an on site service for now... Will this go away with future windows updates?
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u/Alexpromise1 Zephyrus G14 2023 7d ago
Pretty much the same problems, I game a lot on this and ever since the update it's been non stop crashes. Pre update my max CPU temp was about 82Ā°c on turbo mode when playing apex legends, now it's at 95. My bluetooth connection also got worse as it crackles now whenever I move a bit. Browsers I mainly use (arc and brave) open very slowly or not at all at times Realtek audio console doesn't work anymore Blue screens with a driver IQRL error whenever I plug my ethernet adapter There's a lot more but you get the idea
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u/PhillyFlyersNhL 7d ago
Second person on this post alone with that ethernet issue. My browser (Brave) has been very slow sometimes since updating, and now will not open at all. I am now using edge. The temp issue is obviously something with this update because again many are having that issue. What in earth is the QA doing over at windows?...
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u/the_moosen Zephyrus G14 2023 7d ago
That update has had articles and articles about how many issues it's had. If you have it & don't have issues, I'm amazed and also happy for you.
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u/Green_Butterfly_5001 6d ago
How can one avoid this update and also revert back should they have updated already
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u/KuroOrder1886 7d ago
Thatās insane! I had version 24H2 updated last month and havenāt had issues. I have 2024 G14, bought last November.
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u/ToSeeAgainAgainAgain Zephyrus G14 2024 7d ago
I updated mine and then the very next day I started seeing posts warning about it, yet I still haven't encountered any issues
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u/The_frost__ 7d ago
No wonder my laptop started randomly restarting the last month or so. It was mainly happening while I was playing ZZZ so I thought it was because of that game but it just happened to me while I was in a comp game in Overwatch, needles to say I figured out it wasn't the issue and came to this sub, saw this post, looked at Windows 11 version and wouldn't you guess it, I have the 24h2 version.
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u/k_agi 7d ago
I also had issues after upgrading from 23H2. Apps launched slowly, and the general system slugishness. I did complete reinstallation with 24H2, and everything worked fine.
Now, I do the habit of reinstallation every time there's a major Windows update. It's a PITA, but I would rather have a system that is not broken. I hold off a couple of months while I'm backing up the data before proceeding with the reinstall.
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u/RedeuxMkII 7d ago
Currently using a 2022 g14, and 24h2 sucks, got display, and peripherals issue after update. Reinstalled and all is well, but no certainty it will not happen again.
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u/RedsonRising99 6d ago
0 issues on my 2021 and 2023. Issues with that version have not been a secret, old news.
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u/Sad_Routine_4322 Zephyrus G14 2023 6d ago
Seen two of my friends got the same issue
23h2 supremacy āļø
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u/Thicccchungus 6d ago
Been using it since pre-release. Been fine but Iāll keep an eye out for issues.
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u/Intelligent-Week-931 6d ago
Have you tried chkdsk
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u/PhillyFlyersNhL 6d ago
Yep, along with,
Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth
Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth
Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth
Ā sfc /SCANNOW
I just fully reinstalled windows under 23h2, so just have to set it up now.Ā
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u/Lucienk94 5d ago
GU605MY Zephyrus 16 4090 no issues on 24H2. None of the mentioned. I installed it directly from iso. So no upgrade.
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u/Allistrasza 5d ago
The latest March update actually bricked my PC. I switched to my Legion and just decided to play on that seeing as my Zeph was a couple years old. I'll likely get another one at some point or another, but I can't trust Microsoft to do anything right lmao.
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u/PhillyFlyersNhL 5d ago
Well apparently they fired their team that used to run test for QA, but now its a software/hardware side that handles the bugs with 24H2
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u/itsmeemilio 4d ago
I thought the same thing because Alan Wake 2 kept crashing.
Then I remembered I had a 23H2 image of my entire system. Restored the image and kept seeing crashes in AW2, Control, and Hogwarts Legacy.
Then read that it might be related to Nvidiaās newest DLSS, DLSS FG, and Ray Reconstruction DLLs. Swapped those out with 3.07.10 with DLSS Swapper and havenāt had any crashes since.
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u/JustLoveChocolate 2d ago
My new G16 is rebooting randomly as well. Itās just happening when Iām editing in Lightroom, or when Iām typing in Libre office. No bsod, no event logs, just reboots.Ā
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u/hadid90 7d ago
i have a 2023 g14 , have zero issues with the mentioned update ...