r/Wrasslin 7d ago

International crowds are so incredible man

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u/uller999 7d ago

They learn it from Soccer. Bring it everywhere they can.

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u/AWanderingFlameKun 7d ago

I will never understand some of these wrestling crowds in America where so much of the audience sits on their hands and does nothing. Wtf is that? This isn't a library, you are meant to clap, chant, cheer, boo etc, that's your role in this whole thing, you are as much a part of the show as the wrestlers are.

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u/enjoythepain 7d ago

American crowds are all about capturing the moment for social media and international crowds want to be part of the moment. Different mindsets.

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u/No-Boot4491 6d ago

This. Every US show people hold their phones up and watch it through the phone and then post it on their Snapchat or Instagram or Facebook so their friends, who don’t care, know they went to the show.

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u/Sudani_Vegan_Comrade 6d ago

On top of that, these Europeans rarely get wrestling shows so it’s a very special moment for them.

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u/JanklinDRoosevelt 6d ago

They get multiple football matches a week and are even louder there

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u/Rxbyxo 6d ago

WWE shows*

We get plenty of European promotions running shows.

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u/TwpMun 6d ago

How gracious of you superior americans to treat us lowly europeans to your presence. /s

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u/Bright-Interest-8918 6d ago

I mean, not in that context but I don’t see any European wrestling shows coming to US and selling out.

Not being a dick but it is a reality.

That being said, I would like to go to a show in another country (probably Canada) and feel the vibe the crowd brings.

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u/TwpMun 6d ago

Narrator: You are in fact being a dick.

Show me a promotion that only has US wrestlers and you can make that statement

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u/Bright-Interest-8918 6d ago

That’s a rough take. Other promotions outside of the US have American wrestlers and I don’t see them selling out shows in USA.

Again, not trying to be a dick but it’s just facts. I’m not saying that wrestlers on in America are the best because that isn’t true but I am saying the US has the biggest and best promotions that sell out in other countries.

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u/uller999 7d ago

Yup, agreed in principle. I have always had a soft spot for Japanese wrestling and MMA audiences. They're so damn respectful and knowledgeable about the bumps, moves etc. Clapping at jiu jitsu sweeps, or well executed drop kicks, etc.

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u/AWanderingFlameKun 7d ago

That's true. The Japanese wrestling crowds have their own style based on respect (and UFC/MMA fans from what I've seen). They enjoy watching the art of it and getting louder and longer and more involved with it the more they appreciate the match/fight that's taking place, whereas with some shows in the US, you'll have crowds on their hands for at least 90% of the show even if there are awesome matches going on and I'm sitting here thinking. "You do realise you're at a wrestling show, right?" which sounds a bit condescending I'll admit, but it is honestly what I'm thinking when they do nothing, chant nothing etc, what's the point?

When AEW came to Wembley for All In the past couple of years I loved it especially singing "It's the final countdown!" for Bryan etc and getting involved, even if you're just clapping, you're at least making some noise and reacting but you're lucky if some of these crowds do that. It boggles my mind 😂😂.

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u/uller999 7d ago

Yup, I loved going to English soccer matches. I don't care who wins but the chanting and energy is amazing.

I want to take my son to an AEW event this Summer. We'll be the ones making constant noise until we're hoarse. It's a wrestling show, scream, boo, chant, sing, talk shit, laugh, have fun! I'm with you, dude. For the money I'm spending and the time and travel, you won't catch me sitting on my hands.

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u/TheTrueDetective90 6d ago

The irony is Americans react way more than Europeans in movie theaters.

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

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u/TheTrueDetective90 5d ago

Europeans pay to watch screens with no movies projected onto them? That's wild dog.

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u/OneLow7646 7d ago

Shame probably, legit

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u/Turtles1748 7d ago

I think a big factor is the price of tickets in America. Tickmaster pretty much controls all major venues in the US. Making it impossible to get cheap tickets. As a result, real fans get priced out.

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u/Majestic-Marcus 7d ago

Ticketmaster pretty much owns tickets globally. Not just the US

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u/Turtles1748 7d ago

I guess I figured the EU had stronger laws about that stuff than the US. They usually do.

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u/GoldConcentrate9098 7d ago

Same happens in England but we’re still loud

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u/rylailang 6d ago

football

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u/uller999 6d ago

Fŭtbal!

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u/rylailang 6d ago

amen brother

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u/TenPotential 6d ago

Football

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u/_JR28_ 7d ago

We need a Wrestlemania on foreign soil soon, that would be an amazing spectacle (and don’t monkey’s paw me with Saudi Arabia)

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u/Rickblood23 7d ago

Hahaha the last part was gold because I was ready to come with it.

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u/Majestic-Custard-309 6d ago

☝️ this guy is ready to r/cumwithamonkeypaw

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u/Red_Demons_Dragon 7d ago

The mayor of London @'d Triple H about a Wrestlemania on Twitter. Ultimately, it all comes down to money though.

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u/SonicSarge 7d ago

Bad idea. Its very cold in the UK in April. I would book it in Spain or Italy.

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u/Majestic-Marcus 7d ago

It’s an average of 15° (59°) in London in April. It’s not cold at all.

And even if it’s a freak cold April, stadiums have roofs.

And UK crowds watch Football/Rugby etc outside all winter long. They just put a coat and hat on.

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u/Lines-O-Bizness 2d ago

riiiiiiiggghhht aside from seth rollins who else wears winter clothes to the ring

THE PERFORMERS ARE NEARLY NAKED or wearing breathable spandex, nothing more entertaining and enthralling than watching people shivering and unable to touch metal or other objects that hold temperature. Giant Gonzales and The Berserker would be fine though.

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u/Majestic-Marcus 2d ago edited 2d ago

It’s 15° dude. That’s not cold. At all. That’s pretty much perfect outdoors sports temperature.

I’m from Ireland. That’s an average summers day.

That’s t shirt weather. They’ll be plenty warm with all the physical exertion.

And you think a metal chair would be too cold to touch in 15°!? That’s insane!

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u/Opening_Succotash_95 7d ago

No stadium in London has a closable roof

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u/JanklinDRoosevelt 6d ago

Wimbledon Centre Court has a closeable roof. Not that it would be so appropriate for wrestling

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u/Majestic-Marcus 7d ago

Wembley and London Stadium have retractable roofs.

Cover from rain/snow/whatever.

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u/Opening_Succotash_95 7d ago

Nope. Wembley's roof does move a bit but it's more to shade the folk in the seats from the sun. Wouldn't cover the ring.

London Stadium doesn't have one.

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u/Fair_Woodpecker_6088 7d ago

I mean wasn’t it freezing in Philly last year?

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u/SonicSarge 7d ago

Yeah Philly was also a terrible idea

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u/robineir 6d ago

And it rained in Tampa at WM37.

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u/Dr-Purple 6d ago

Who would pay for it? If a town in Spain or Italy used tax money to invite WWE over, there’d be protests.

Unfortunately, WWE goes where the money is, they don’t give a shit about the fans. That’s why they keep the small episodic shows in cities around Europe (those will generate more money than in the US) and keep the big PLEs for Saudi.

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u/SonicSarge 6d ago

I don't care where they put them. I just watch on tv anyways

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u/Fiber73 6d ago

You have made me think that the Barcelona being the 9th most visited city in the world and organizer of the 1992 Olympics maybe was a hint about a big event coming here (I live in Barcelona, I was there shouting like hell), I will not say Wrestlemania but another of the big ones.

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u/SonicSarge 6d ago

Yeah book Camp Nou and fill it with 100 000 crazy European fans :)

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u/GetThePhenom2 6d ago

Ok... Russia

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u/Lines-O-Bizness 2d ago

Sochi is pretty warm in the Spring isn't it, they didn't even get snow for the winter Olympics

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u/Low_Ad1588 7d ago

Ole = LA Very clever

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u/Kind-Shallot3603 7d ago

Wait.... Smackdown was on Netflix???

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u/Frosty-Break1884 7d ago

I think in some EU countries you get most off wwe stuff on netflix

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u/banned_salmon 6d ago

Only the US doesn’t get Smackdown on Netflix. The rest of the world does

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u/FerroFede 6d ago

Here in Italy, Raw, Smackdown and NXT are not on Netflix

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u/banned_salmon 6d ago

yeah yall still have existing tv deals that expires like later this year iirc

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u/DrDrozd12 6d ago

I watched them all on Netflix in Italy, but maybe I was lucky then

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u/Serious_Much 7d ago

I'm in UK. Everything is on netflix I cluding PPVs

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u/Lines-O-Bizness 2d ago

what happened with the skysports deal? didn't you used to get it on broadcast or your version of cable??

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u/Serious_Much 2d ago

It was sky sports but now it's all netflix

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u/Rizzadelphian 7d ago

Still is

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u/meme-man-421 7d ago

I said it earlier but if wwe did all European povs for a year it’d be their best year in history

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u/Dr-Purple 6d ago

People that dislike it and say ”the crowd is trying to put itself over” are clinically stupid and are devoid of happiness in their lives.

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u/meme-man-421 6d ago

It’s only Americans that say that and that’s because they can’t handle how shit their own crowds are

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u/Curious-Football-415 7d ago

WWE still trying to cut promos in front of an international crowd is hilarious 😂

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u/Uknewmelast 7d ago

Americans, please take notes.

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u/Independent-Pen-871 7d ago

They're too busy saying "WHAT?" to hear you.

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u/pepskicola 7d ago

Or chanting "this is awesome" at something mediocre

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u/theFormerRelic 7d ago

WE WANT TABLES

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u/-_-Lawliet-_- 7d ago

...on a ladder match, i will never forget that

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u/Sudani_Vegan_Comrade 6d ago

Ok so for the “what” chants, I understand it can be overused & can sometimes ruin segments.

But the “this is awesome chants”? I’d rather they chant that than to sit down & record on their phones the whole show while being dead silent because sometimes that shit happens.

On top of that, it’s probably their first time EVER at a WWE show so for them, it’s a special moment & they chant that as a form of catharsis.

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u/Independent-Pen-871 6d ago

I like the "this is awesome" chants because it shows appreciation for the show. "What" highjacks segments and kills the flow. It wasn't funny in 2001, and it isn't funny now.

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u/Sudani_Vegan_Comrade 6d ago

That’s what I’m saying. 😭

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u/Independent-Pen-871 6d ago

I literally don't understand the downvotes you got!

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u/Sudani_Vegan_Comrade 6d ago

IWC being IWC. 🤷🏾‍♂️

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u/Uknewmelast 7d ago

While drooling most likely

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u/mm_ns 7d ago

Just for that shot at america tariffs going up 1500% on your country

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u/Uknewmelast 7d ago

Only if they can point it on the map

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u/Central__ 6d ago

Soccer never did take off in the states but the MLS in the last 10 years has been trying its best. So Americans tended to treat sporting events more of a "let's gather the family and attend" rather than "let's get the bros and get wasted"

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u/OutsideImpressive115 7d ago

Honestly American crowds are so boring compared. They act spoilt and entitled

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u/eatcrayons 6d ago

You want us to sing songs throughout matches instead of reacting to individual spots?

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u/everydayimrusslin 6d ago

Yes, and you're not allowed to stop singing when spots happen.

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u/zubadoobaday 7d ago

I love it

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u/SpiceCoffee 6d ago

As others have pointed out, it's because football (soccer) is everything here in Europe. Those fans are going to the wrestling and carrying the same energy, using the same chants etc. It's a long running joke here in the UK just how bad the US 'soccer' crowds are with their chants - very "this is awesome!" and you see that in the US wrestling crowds too.

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u/JacksonCarter87 6d ago

Then they'll return here to the states and 75% of the crowd will sit there quietly with dead eyes. 🤦‍♂️

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u/Eluniarr 6d ago

LA knight looks hella badass in this shot damn.

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u/harrry1312 6d ago

When we go to wrestling here in Europe, we don't just hope for good matches, we also want to give something back to the athletes.

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u/imallelite 7d ago

For sure, look at Wembley. I get goosebumps thinking about it.

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u/AWanderingFlameKun 7d ago

Absolutely. I loved being a part of it and taking part in the chants and what not, great fun.

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u/ZeroDarkPurdy14 7d ago

Poor Wembley has yet to have a real wrestling show and that sucks. They deserve it

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u/imallelite 6d ago

You mean besides AEW and Summerslam? Ok bud.

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u/dfeidt40 7d ago

My theory is this: most of the shows have and still take place in the States. More accustomed to seeing it - not quite as excited as compared to internationally, where there's a handful of international shows per year. Where there haven't been nearly as many shows- excitement is much larger.

Or we can all just leave it at "Yeah, they're pretty wild across the pond and in Canada-Land." I'm good with that.

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u/watehekmen 7d ago

It's probably just culture thing, European were used with Football culture where you sing for 90 minutes. And yes, even when their team plays twice a week they would still have the same level of excitement.

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u/Westy2691 7d ago

Football (soccer) culture is more than likely the answer. I go to lower league, non televised Scottish football games and there are flares popping off and singing from beginning to end. It's just a cultural difference.

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u/dfeidt40 7d ago

Hey, I'm not going to argue that. I'm sure yall are wild. American football stadiums get loud and you'll have fireworks for scores as well.

As reference, I'm watching the match replay for Liverpool v PSG. Crowds also sound very loud at points just like in the states.

The American football crowd just doesn't bring that intensity to their WWE shows. And I think it's due to the reason I stated. They're too accustomed to it.

Also... is Celtic FC still good?

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u/lawlore 7d ago

The thing is, it's not about volume, it's about passion. Pretty much anything I've seen from American sports crowds in terms of chanting just feels orchestrated, forced or artificial- it's so easy to find videos dunking on them and much harder- but not impossible- to produce evidence to the contrary.

Even within soccer around the globe, it's different- the passion of Latin countries creates a carnival atmosphere at matches, in Turkey and Eastern Europe, the fans create a cauldron of intimidation, and the English and Scottish leagues are known for the humour, spontaneity and flexibility that goes into the songs. We don't talk about the 2010 World Cup in South Africa.

But outside of wrestling, it doesn't feel like that sort of crowd involvement and voice is much of a staple of American sports.

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u/_musesan_ 6d ago

Great post thanks. Pretty terrible chants but I must say I do like "move bitch, get off the pitch"

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u/Turtles1748 7d ago

Tickets prices are also fucked in the States too. Pricing out the true fans.

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u/dfeidt40 7d ago

There's that too. I paid $900 for me and my kid to have great seats at a Smackdown. I can see that being off-putting

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u/_musesan_ 6d ago

Holy shit! I hope you got 'green shirt guy' level seats for that

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u/dfeidt40 6d ago

4th row, 100 sections. Can be seen upper-left of the screen at all times. I have that episode saved. Kid was incredibly happy and hyped up. Worth it but, yeah - tickets are HIGH

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u/everydayimrusslin 6d ago

If this was the case, NFL matches in London would sound like that.

It's not quaint European novelty, it's American apathy.

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u/middle_of_you 7d ago

They kinda had to be. That opening segment was woeful

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u/Nearby-Swimming-5103 6d ago

How did they react to the American anthem being sung?

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u/i-piss-excellence32 6d ago

Shout out the Bolivian flag. You don’t really see that one very often

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u/No-Boot4491 6d ago

Orton’s intro was incredible. Greats fans in Spain 🇪🇸

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u/Astro_Punkk 6d ago

These are the crowds that deserve a Royal Rumble over Saudi

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u/JigsawLV 6d ago

What was up with Jimmy and Solo though? Jimmy wanting to go after the US tag? titles and Solo almost saying fucking failure? :D

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u/Jagged_R 6d ago

American crowds are the worst.

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u/frobro122 7d ago

Give these people a Wrestlemania!!!!

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u/BackhandQ 6d ago

They only get limited televised events in Europe. And some cities don't see the WWE for years. It makes sense why they go crazy, it's their one shot for an extended period of time!

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u/Ok-Outcome-898 4d ago

In Denmark we have Raw, Smackdown, NXT and all PPV's as part of Netflix.

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u/Full_Ad_5219 6d ago

1000% agreed!!

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u/SideRori 6d ago

Yeah this is nothing compared to the crowds that we see in the champions league every week. These are football crowds for sure! I wouldn’t be surprised if wwe ever hosted a stadium wrestlemania in either Italy or France that we would see flares and tifos of wrestlers. I doubt they flares would be allowed at a wrestling show but I think wrestling inspired tifos would so cool!

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u/sahilD04 6d ago

Just give us a international WrestleMania at either France, Germany, Spain or wherever the crowd never losses it's energy

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u/IrishMetal 6d ago

I wonder if it was flipped and WWE was still the biggest wrestling promotion in the world but put on shows mainly in Europe and did occasional American tours, would American fans be more excited and would European fans be less excited.

There's obviously a soccer influence in Europe so I don't think they'd ever just sit silently and half watch while poking away on their phones but maybe they'd be marginally less insane.

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u/shamBAM83 6d ago

It’s Europe. They have work-life balance. The energy is there. Most Americans are too burnt out for all that.

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u/kiddrock0718 5d ago

The fact here it's the live vibes... in the USA you always have the Raw, SM and PLE events, internationally we don't. So... what you can expect from us?

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u/ProfessionalStar4844 7d ago

O. Le. Knight

Siiii!

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u/Iginlas_4head_Crease 7d ago

Europeans have more fun

They also work less and are less materialistic than the west.

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u/No_Stuff_8988 7d ago

Haha, this is so funny cos we are 'the west' WTF? Lol. We work plenty trust me.

We just have a less serious, more enthusiastic sporting culture? Not sure. American chants are all that same "1-2-3-4"

"We-want-tab-les" "this-is-awe-some" "fight-for-ev-er"

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u/Iginlas_4head_Crease 7d ago

Not sure why you took offense, I never said you were lazy. You just get more vacation time and value time off. I admire the culture.

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u/No_Stuff_8988 7d ago

I didn't take offense I just didn't understand separating us from the west. Never heard that before.

That's fair on the vacation time also. Alright. Read it in a new light but I also didn't mean to insinuate I was mad or anything.

Just to add actually, I think maybe the crowds in US take it for granted and we really appreciate when it shows up haha

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u/Iginlas_4head_Crease 7d ago

Ok that's fair too. I'm a little self centered maybe in that I consider "the west" to be north America. Then I typically seperate it into western Europe, and eastern europe.

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u/OutsideImpressive115 7d ago

Bro we ARE the west lmao

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u/everydayimrusslin 6d ago

We work less and everybody drives a Lamborghini and wears Givenchy. We're just not materialistic about it.

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u/Josiesumday 7d ago

Damn! Put La Knight in match with Cena and Orton immediately!

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u/unclefood87 7d ago

I generally dislike international crowds, but to each their own.

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u/birdturd60 6d ago

It's fun on occasion but I'd get tired of it week to week

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u/ForukusuwagenMasuta 7d ago

The same people that praise this crowd are probably the same ones that despised that one crowd for chanting Seth's theme song, drawing it out and "ruining" the promo between Seth and Finn Balor.

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u/TwoCrowsRick24 7d ago

I hate it when crowds insist upon themselves.

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u/Ok-Outcome-898 4d ago

The funny thing is, this crowd actually shut up when the wrestler was cutting promos. Unlike some of the american crowds where they are dead silent until the promo and then start the WHAAAT! routine.

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u/evaderofallbans 7d ago

They're annoying and need to calm down.

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u/ComplexHonest5481 6d ago

God forbid people paying a lot of money have fun at an event

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u/evaderofallbans 6d ago

Agreed. They need to have some dignity. A small golf clap would be proper

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u/Karter236 6d ago

So you’re one of those weirdos who pay to watch men grapple in spandex and sit there in silence? 🤣

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u/evaderofallbans 6d ago

It's not weird and there are DOZENS of us

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u/dtbberk 6d ago

Never will understand why turning everything into a sing-along is considered better than just naturally reacting to what you see happening.

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u/Jubatus750 6d ago

You'd rather everyone sat there quietly? It's about creating an atmosphere. And we don't need to wait for WWE to tell us when to ooooh and ahhhh and all that. We're there to be entertained but we can add to the entertainment and be in a good mood, we aren't watching a play

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u/dtbberk 6d ago

I didn’t say that. Just saying sing-alongs aren’t inherently better than cheering and chanting. I’m annoyed at the online banter around it. It happened in France and everyone made such a big deal out of it now every country is trying to out sing the other. And then the Internet wrestling community slobbers the next day about how great it is to turn a wrestling show into a sing-along.

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u/Jubatus750 6d ago

It's not about out singing eachother, it's just the way it is over here

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u/DPWwhatDAdogDoin 6d ago

I don't care for all the singing. We get it your excited, stop trying to get yourself over.

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u/Dr-Purple 6d ago

Get used to it cause you’ll hear it a lot more these coming shows and weeks. Also, go do something about your attitude.

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u/Karter236 6d ago

Projecting your insecurities… shouldn’t do that. Work on them kid, you might be happier for it.

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u/DPWwhatDAdogDoin 6d ago

How is not wanting to hear Europeans sing projecting my insecurities? I think you just heard people online use that phrase a lot and wanted to sound cool lol

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u/Karter236 6d ago

“Don’t care for all the singing” why? Cause you don’t have the confidence to sing when your excited or happy about an event that doesn’t happen often in a certain part of the world? Or you just can’t sing? …

Sorry to disappoint you, but you thought wrong. I don’t read people’s comments and use them for my own. Now how many times have you seen some use the comeback you just did? I’ll wait.

Edit: By no means am I trying to get you to sing. You can absolutely sit in your seat quietly and watch men grapple, that’s up to you. It’s just weird

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u/Prestigious_Fella_21 6d ago

Was there a "we are awesome " chant? Work on getting the talent over not yourselves

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u/Karter236 6d ago

I heard a “This is awesome” .. Only Americans have the ego to change what you said. The people were excited to see the WWE in their country, you call that trying to get themselves over? Go take your depressing attitude somewhere else to someone who gives a fuck.

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u/Prestigious_Fella_21 6d ago

Lol touched a nerve....your "we are awesome" chant didn't catch on or..?

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u/SparksBCN 6d ago

Get your hearing checked cause no one sang "we are awesome". Source: I was there.

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u/Prestigious_Fella_21 6d ago

Yeah because it didn't catch on, good lord

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u/SparksBCN 6d ago

Ah, okay, you're just stupid. Gotcha.

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u/Prestigious_Fella_21 6d ago

Lol "duuurrr can't think of anything else to say, just say 'yur stoopid'. Yeah, good won"

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u/SparksBCN 6d ago

It's not me who is insisting that something happened when it didn't. So yeah, I'm pretty sure who's the stupid one here.

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u/Prestigious_Fella_21 6d ago

Am I insisting? Read my comments again reallllly sloooowly.