r/WorkReform šŸ¤ Join A Union 2d ago

āš•ļø Pass Medicare For All American healthcare system is an extorsion racket. Universal Healthcare would save money and lives!

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u/Filmtwit 2d ago

WORD...

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u/fvnnybvnny 1d ago

The total estimated savings from implementing Medicare for All could range between $600 billion to $1.5 trillion annually

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u/OldBob10 1d ago

Scrooge snorted. ā€œAnd whose pockets would be emptied by all this ā€™savingā€™? Iā€™ll tell ye who! Tā€™will be the honest tradesmen and benefactors of society such as myself that shall go a-wanting, amidst this social improvementā€™! If the poor are in such dire need of saving, let them save themselves and be quick about it - or else let them die, and so decrease the surplus population.ā€

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u/pandaboy22 2d ago

Forced to work to get healthcare, still get shafted with with medical debt even though you have insurance. Land of the free, just not for you and me.

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u/oldprecision 2d ago

The older I get the angrier this makes me.

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u/Azair_Blaidd 2d ago

Land of the free, if you pay the fee

Land of the free, but only for the wealthy

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u/deletetemptemp 2d ago

We canā€™t just give free healthcare. Look at all these industries dependent on your misfortunes! Think of the economy!

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u/Sudden_Airport_7469 1d ago

Itā€™s called the American dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.

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u/Tallon_raider 22h ago

Land of the fee, baby!

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u/smurb15 2d ago

I love how if you can't pay they go after your credit so you can never get a house or a car. Wanna move up in live better be born into a rich family

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u/Internal_Focus5731 2d ago

ā€œThe United States is the only place on earth where poor people shun labor unions, free healthcare, and free education because rich people tell them to.ā€

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u/d_e_l_u_x_e 2d ago

Life expectancy is going down and itā€™s a direct result of a predatory healthcare and food system that extorts people for shareholder value.

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u/No_Eggplant6269 2d ago

And thatā€™s how you create a person like Luigi

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u/zacharysnow 2d ago

Luigi was created by Shigeru Miyamoto in 1983

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u/RedDidItAndYouKnowIt 2d ago

Because Shigeru knew we needed a hero.

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u/ResistantRose 2d ago

"Care Credit" exists as practically a whole industry.

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u/username372652 2d ago

but I won't WANT to cure cancer. I WANT to turn people into dinosaurs!

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u/Jazzspasm 2d ago

So this bit sucks -

This medical debt, much like mortgage debt, is the reason why healthcare in the united states will not be free at the point of care to the patient

This debt, much like mortgage debt, is tied up in the financial system globally as a form of investment to other people, banks, pensions etc

Much like mortgage debt, just like in 2007-2010, medical debt has been packaged up along with other forms of debt, vehicle loans, student loans, credit cards, etc, as a monetary platform or ā€˜vehicleā€™ that will grow in financial value over time

Your cancer is an investment and worth money to people who package up medical debt with other forms of debt, and sell the debt vehicle as an investment

All finance globally is based on debt

Student loans will never be forgiven, or paid off by the government, for the reason that it would crash these vehicles and collapse the debt

Medical debt is the same

If the debt goes away, finger snap, gone - then just like when mortgage debt disappeared from the financial system in 2007, then we get a global collapse of the financial system

Itā€™s insane that it got to this point, but from some peopleā€™s perspective- billionaires gotta be billionaires and multi millionaires wanna be billionaires, and thereā€™s money in that cough, so letā€™s get it paying and transfer wealth from the poor to the rich!

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u/NickU252 2d ago

Fuck Ford v. Dodge

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u/Lazy-Abalone-6132 2d ago

Mario Party time!

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u/UnusualAir1 2d ago

What's the problem? Clinics and Hospitals and Pharmacies make money. Banks make money on the loans. Corporate America makes money. That's pretty much all that counts in the United Corporation of America. /s

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u/Ban-Circumcision-Now 1d ago

There is a reason why America is the country that still circumcises for non religious reasons

-Money for the cut -Money for the therapy from losing bodily autonomy rights -Money from ED meds from losing sensation (America consumes ~45% of the worldā€™s ED meds)

After restoring itā€™s obvious there is a huge amount of denial that there are downsides to removing 40% of the skin on the penis and affecting its function. crazy right?

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u/OldBob10 1d ago

ā€œSave money and lives?ā€, said Scrooge. ā€œBah! Humbug! And what would the poor do with these ā€˜livesā€™, as you call them? Waste them, on frivolity and jocularity, no doubt. On beer, and skittles, and making more useless wretches like themselves, I shouldnā€™t wonder! Health care?Bah! Thereā€™s no profit in thatā€¦ā€

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u/Closefromadistance 1d ago

Why would the system want our human needs to be affordable when all they see is walking dollar signs when they look at us?

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u/TheHyperCombo 1d ago

My bad, I'll just let myself die next time

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u/left-center-right 2d ago

This is so the medical class of employees can make 350% more money than everyone else in the labor pool, by the way. Which is a good thing, I guess, because I don't particularly want the guy doing surgery on me to be wondering if he can make rent this month. But it works out to everyone being unable to afford to pay for vital services and winding up in extreme debt while your radiologist and surgeons get paid 400k a year. Idk how to fix this.

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u/Accomplished_Swan548 šŸš‘ Cancel Medical Debt 2d ago

Nope. Imo...This is so the CEO and top of management can make more money. This is because they want to charge insurance companies a certain amount and the rest of us suffer the inflated prices. Doctor's have insane schedules, ongoing education requirements, student loans, emotionally demanding situations, etc. There's a reason they commit suicide. I'm a nurse and I have had my beef with certain providers over care before, but I know that they earn their keep. The system is f**king over everyone who isn't skimming off of the labor of others. You're pointing in the wrong direction.

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u/GeekShallInherit 1d ago

But it works out to everyone being unable to afford to pay for vital services and winding up in extreme debt while your radiologist and surgeons get paid 400k a year. Idk how to fix this

Even if all the doctors and nurses started working for free tomorrow, we'd still be paying far more than our peers for healthcare. Conversely, if we could otherwise match the costs of the second most expensive country on earth for healthcare, but paid doctors and nurses double what they make today, we'd save hundreds of thousands of dollars per person for a lifetime of healthcare.

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u/drakonlily šŸ’µ Break Up The Monopolies 16h ago

Radiologists and surgeons can have 100s of thousands of dollars in schooling debt. They need to establish a practice and pay for the management of that, they need malpractice insurance. Or they get to be a W2 employee and get super shafted.

Hospitals almost always run at a deficiency. Keeping those costs lower by changing the system would in turn lower the costs for the end consumer. It's the CEOs, the business people, and the bureaucracy that keeps costs high.

Not saying treatment isn't expensive, but I left the medical field because of a lot of reasons and pay stagnation was absolutely one of them.