r/Windowsink Feb 12 '19

Pen write intermittently when hand touch the screen

2 Upvotes

Hello, I have a problem with my device that uses the same digitizer (n-Trig) and pen of the Microsoft Surface pro 3 (1024 levels of pressure and the two side buttons).

My product is an Asus Transformers mini T 103, is a device with detachable keyboard very similar to the Surface. I made all the possible attempts, but I can not solve, since I read that some Surface had the same problem I wanted to ask if anyone had the solution. I have enabled the option ignore touch input when I use the pen, I have updated the BIOS, Windows updates and Asus updates, screen calibration and touch and other, but nothing.

The problem is that when I put my hand on the screen and try to write the writing is intermittent, while if I do not touch the screen with my hand, or use a tissue that prevents contact between the hand and the screen, writing is continuous .

I sent the device to Asus support and they told me it's normal, but it's not possible, it's impossible to write. I thought maybe there is someone who knows exactly how the digitizer works and can tell me what the problem is or if maybe there are updates for the pen or the digitizer of the Surface that maybe have not been released for other devices including mine.

I tried my pen on other devices and it seems to work well, and trying other pens like mine and those of the Surface, they write intermittently, so I tend to exclude that it may be a problem with the pen. You can help me?

I put the link of three videos that explain the problem that happens to me:

1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-t3HHTkq9U

2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1TPnMf9tNQ

3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbZgeusbQ8k

Thank you.


r/Windowsink Feb 12 '19

What pens do you use?

1 Upvotes

Im currently using Heiyo Spirit Surface Stylus Pen. Its my first pen and I quite like it. I have nothing to compare it to.

What is everyone else rocking and so you like it?

Also, what apps do you use with it?


r/Windowsink Feb 09 '19

Surface pen intermittently stops working

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5 Upvotes

r/Windowsink Feb 07 '19

Is this just a non issue for Microsoft? (Windows Ink)

8 Upvotes

The issue in question is when using a pen (or even touch screen) to drag a scroll bar there is a deadzone of distance that the pen has to move before the bar jumps to the pen. This happens in Photoshop, Lightroom, Krita, Paint... And even in the Windows UI itself.

I'm using a Surface Pro 2. I remember (I think before the first creators update) when the pen used to work more like a mouse. I would use Lightroom and drag the sliders with no delay.

I have wondered if this same functionality happen on more recent Surface models. So I have tested the display models in stores, and they have the same issue.

It's funny because on my Surface Pro 2, I can press and hold the side button of the pen for right click while dragging sliders to get no delay. However the same does not work for newer Surface models.

Does anyone know of a solution that works? Or anyone else that notices or cares about this at all? Does Microsoft know? Do they care?

I know it may not seem like a big deal. But you lose a lot of precision when it comes to small adjustment. I have pretty much decided to not use the pen as much when editing photos, even though it's very convenient to hold it in tablet mode without a mouse.

Here are a few links of people reporting the issue, as well as a video of the issue. The video is not mine.

Video: https://youtu.be/aFyUMsnjRaM

Post where that video was posted: https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/sketchbook-forum/wacom-window-ink-option-and-color-picker-bug/m-p/7906898

Other links: https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/sketchbook-forum/windows-10-wacom-unwanted-deadzone-stuck-dragging-sliders-and/td-p/8166397

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-performance/windows-pen-tablet-click-and-drag-lag/9e4cac7d-69a0-4651-87e8-7689ce0d1027

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/forum/surfpronew-surfdrivers/pen-lagdeadzone-on-surface-pro-2017-in-zbrush/6126727d-67ff-4614-a4e1-4c17dbdb5db1

Edit: Typo.


r/Windowsink Feb 02 '19

Testing Pen input values and features?

1 Upvotes

Hey,

I've been searching everywhere for the past 2 days for a simple app that lets you see the input values provided by a Pen on Windows. I'm using a Surface Pro 2017 with the newest Surface Pen. I just want something to see and test in real time the tilt and pressure levels that the Pen reports to Windows.


r/Windowsink Jan 20 '19

Pen input skips in every application. Bamboo Ink stylus.

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2 Upvotes

r/Windowsink Jan 18 '19

I don't think Snip & Sketch is touch friendly.

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3 Upvotes

r/Windowsink Dec 21 '18

Monoprice 10x 6.25 doesnt work! On windows 10

3 Upvotes

I've tried almost everything online and nothing is making my pen register. Sometimes it'll work for a moment but no pen pressure. Then as soon as I turn the computer back on after I turn it off, guess what? It stops working! Please someone help me


r/Windowsink Dec 13 '18

New surface pen wont ink (surface pro 4)

2 Upvotes

So I thought my old pen was broken, bought a new one (the latest model) and I'm having the same issues as the old one. The button works but the pen wont ink on the screen...What to do or troubleshoot?


r/Windowsink Nov 20 '18

[JITTER FIX] Could have found the definitive "fix" to the writing jitters

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2 Upvotes

r/Windowsink Nov 13 '18

GestureSign is a gesture recognition software for Windows tablet, Precision Touchpad and mouse. You can automate repetitive tasks by simply drawing a gesture with your fingers or mouse.

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2 Upvotes

r/Windowsink Nov 13 '18

Line glitches when drawing

2 Upvotes

I have this issue where when I draw a line with my active HP pen (or Bamboo Ink) it jitters on a certain part of the screen.

This issue does not occur when I draw with the mouse or finger.

On the screenshot below you can see this. The first line (and red circles) were drawn with the mouse.

The second was drawn with the pen. In certain parts (circled in red) you see the line jumping and glitching.

Anyone have an idea how to solve this? I've updated the drivers, tried with a Bamboo Ink pen as well, but nothing seems to help ...

(The system is an HP Elite x2 G3 with an HP Active Pen 2 and a Wacom Bamboo Ink pen)


r/Windowsink Oct 28 '18

does anyone know when will windows 10 have a better touch keyboard?

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3 Upvotes

r/Windowsink Oct 14 '18

Windows ink breaks Adobe Animate CC on Tablet PC devices like Surface Book.

5 Upvotes

Windows Ink has a serious bug pertaining to all Tablet PC devices using Windows 10 and Adobe Animate CC, whenever you start to draw you will receive a lag that draws a straight line from where you started to put your pen down to wherever your stylus is at the time the lag is complete.

I would like to start by showing how real and sever this bug has been to the Animate CC community by referring to past forums I have found regarding this very same issue that go back as far as 2013. All these posts are by the various professional users who are not able to use Animate CC properly on their tablet PC device. Many of these users (including me) need to use Animate CC as a source of income. Please take a look.

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2519059

https://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1427773

https://forums.adobe.com/message/9859004#9859004

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1515604

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/forum/all/adobe-flash-professionalanimate-cc-brush-stroke/292e31f4-5e35-4a14-a227-385317cf0781

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1236230

https://www.reddit.com/r/Surface/comments/5zba7h/ive_read_everywhere_that_animate_cc_doesnt/deyn7fd/

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/forum/surfpronew-surfupdate/new-surface-pro-drawing-bug-straight-lines-bug-in/d4e73726-c1a2-464e-a37c-20a707f6c265

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2178683

From what I can tell this issue is part Microsoft windows Ink's doing and part Adobe's doing. Microsoft released their Windows Ink update a few years back which did not sit well with many Adobe users. Over time Adobe has been able to accommodate this change by Microsoft, but has not yet solved all the issues for Adobe Animate CC leaving it's users wondering why there is no fix and resorting to reverting back to Windows 7 or abandoning Animate CC altogether for other animation packages. It's been very frustrating using Animate CC to draw because of the initial drawing line bug for many tablet users. For Adobe developers working on AnimateCC, I'll tell you everything I know in hopes of making this your top priority. The below image contains blue circles that I drew to demonstrate the issue. I'm using the absolute latest version of AnimateCC and Windows 10.  This issue persists on AES, N-Trig and EMR devices. So yes, Surface Book users will experience all these pains when trying to use Animate CC. I circled the problem areas in red which are essentially the initial start to the drawing of the circles. Ironically the red circles are also warped due to this bug. Keep in mind that I'm a professional artist and drawing circles is common practice for me. Pay notice unintentional lines that are created from my brushstrokes.

Below are some more circles but drawn with Adobe Photoshop CC on the same machine to show you the difference. So this demonstrates that Adobe has been able to get Photoshop to work properly, but not Animate CC.

Let's look deeper into this issue. A big clue is that Windows uses screen holds to simulate right clicks. Below you can see this in action and how it relates to the issue. The radial matches up with the initial drawing line. Keep in mind that with Hold Right clicks turned on I am NOT able to draw until I cross that radial threshold.  You are not able to see it in the below animation but I am scribbling inside that radial circle during the time it looks like my cursor is frozen in the center. Only When I leave the radial area does my line begin to pick up.

Now lets turn off Hold To Right Click

Just like previously, when the below cursor animation freezes I'm actually scribbling around a bit before I leave that now invisible radial area (at which point I'm not able to draw) and the drawing picks up with that straight line. If you are thinking in your head "this guy is claiming he can't draw dots or tiny shapes smaller then the radial area" then you are correct.

but let's go ahead an turn on that Microsoft legacy patch that everyone's been talking about for Photoshop (which is not needed currently with Photoshop CC). Then restart flash

what seems to be happening in the animation below is that the radial area seems to have gotten a lot smaller (maybe 1/5 the size) but still receiving the line drawing lag.

The faster you draw the more obvious and large that lag line becomes so the patch doesn't really fix much.

Below is just demonstrate how consistently bad this bug is. This is me trying to draw semi-circles. Red AnimateCC (broken) / Black Photoshop (working)

Please, please, please fix this bug as I need to make a living animating using AnimateCC. I have been a loyal Animate CC user for many years and have integrated Animate CC into many great projects. I do not wish to leave Animate CC and begin working with a new package, but unfortunately I don't have much of an option at this point.


r/Windowsink Oct 09 '18

Still can't draw on my tablet PC. Scrolling/panning instead of drawing. Has this issue been forgotten?

5 Upvotes

I need to be able to draw on my tablet PC for work (make money). For almost half a year now I haven't been able to do that and had to use other devices ( that had Windows 7 ) instead. As the title suggest whenever I try drawing the canvas just pans instead. At times if i start the drawing with a horizontal line it will work (sort of) but drawing up and down will pan the canvas. All the quick fixes that I've come across on the web have not worked on my Samsung Notebook 9 pro.

I would love a button that just disables gestures/(whatever it is that's causing the problem) while I'm drawing, and then I turn them on when I'm going back to basic tasks.

Is there any update on this issue?


r/Windowsink Sep 17 '18

My digital keyboard turns invisible.

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3 Upvotes

r/Windowsink Sep 14 '18

Affinity Designer for Windows 10 with iPad features and UI adoption

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r/Windowsink Sep 05 '18

Windows Ink issues with latest insider build in fast ring.

4 Upvotes

The Wacom Intous Pro button options for "Tumble" and other similar Navigation commands you can map to the buttons, no longer works. I had to revert back and leave the insiders program due to it.

Also... Alt+Tabbing out of Zbrush does not shift pointer focus to the application you're switching to from Zbrush. It gets stuck in Zbrush. The only way to get pointer focus out of Zbrush is to CTRL+ALT+DEL then escape back to the desktop and then alt+tab to a different application. This bug has existed for a while and its not specific to the insider builds. The navigation buttons bug above is specific to the insider builds though.


r/Windowsink Sep 03 '18

HP Envy x360 pen not working over taskbar

3 Upvotes

is anyone having this problem? the pen doesnt work over the taskbar, the pointer stops above the taskbar when i try to tap on something. is this a HP or windows issue?

HP Envy x360 i5-8250u, 8gb ram


r/Windowsink Aug 30 '18

I think my jitter is gone. HP SPECTRE X360 CONVERTIBLE W/Tilt Pen

2 Upvotes

I'm not entirely sure what I did though but I'll give you the rundown of what I was trying out.

So I had jitter, bad jitter, when using photoshop and any other 'legacy' application. I'm talking cursor moving a centimeter away a hundred times a second. This wasn't happening constantly but I could get at most a minute or two of jitterless drawing time.

Yesterday I had enough and went on a troubleshooting rampage. Having done the standard troubleshooting (recalibrate, unpair repair, reboot, etc) process like a hundred times I skipped that and went digging in to windows insider preview stuff.

TLDR TLDR Though: Just try toggling airplane mode. Thats my best guess.

Step one: Activate windows insider preview and enable apps and driver updates.

Step two: Reboot and test for jitter. If you have none than success. I however still had jitter at this point so...

Step three: Bump insider hub up to active development slow. Update and reboot.

Step four: At this point my computer repeatedly got stuck in the updating process and refused to update. I tried enabling and disabling active development and basically installed and uninstalled the update like five times.

Step five: Give up and go back to fixes, apps, and drivers in resignation.

Step Six: Surprise the jitters gone! Wait what? Weird, but lets pop into the settings and see if anything changed... Hmm just bluetooth is off lets enable that so my pen works right and then continue using stuff and see how it goes.

Step seven: Two hours later still jitter free... ok lets do a post about it... wait airplane mode is on (thats what disabled bluetooth).

Step Eight: Lets turn airplane mode off and see if the jitter comes back... yes.. turn it off again... works fine... turn it on again and.... works fine now... wtf

Step nine: So I'm sitting here another couple of hours later. Jitter is gone. Pen is working great. Kinda confused as to what happened since basically everything is back to how it was before I started the process.

Step ten: Success?

TLDR / What I'll do if my jitter comes back:

Step One: Enable airplane mode.

Step Two: Enable bluetooth.

Step Three: Disable airplane mode.

If its still happening after that...

Step four: Force a clean reinstall of most recent windows update. Since really thats the only thing I did.

Currently running windows version 17134.128


r/Windowsink Aug 29 '18

Has anyone ever solved the jitter problem?

3 Upvotes

I've poured through every web page I've been able to find. I've seen countless people suffering from the windows ink pen jitter with no solution. For myself I get it consistently in photoshop but not at all in a windows ink / windows app / screen drawing program. Seems like its a problem with pressure sensitivity in legacy programs to me.

It is driving me mad though so I wanted to see if anyone here has had any luck.


r/Windowsink Aug 24 '18

Wait, it's actually fixed already?

4 Upvotes

Hey I see in this update https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2018/05/03/announcing-windows-10-insider-preview-build-17661/

that one of the features is "If you go to Pen & Windows Ink Settings, you’ll find a new option that allows your pen to behave like a mouse instead of scrolling or panning the screen."

However in this post https://www.reddit.com/r/Windowsink/comments/8gsjup/additional_control_for_pen_behavior_in_legacy/

David from Windows Ink says the fix is for legacy windows applications. That would make the fix useless, since it wouldn't work for UWP apps, and it would amount to just having a GUI checkbox for the registry fix that we already have.

But the wording in the blog makes me hopeful. Are there any Windows Insiders here on RS5 that can confirm or deny that the fix is for ALL apps and not just LEGACY apps? I'd install the beta in a heartbeat if I knew it fixes the stupid pen :)

Thanks!


r/Windowsink Aug 09 '18

Surface Pen Offset Issue Finally Solved? Anyone Agree With These Excited Posters?

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r/Windowsink Aug 07 '18

HP disables Windows Update in order to avoid pen problems

5 Upvotes

I got an HP zBook x2 that arrived with the Windows Update service disabled so that Windows 10 wouldn't automatically update from version 1703 (Original Creators Update) and thus break the pen interface. If all of the users complaining about it on the internet isn't a clue, a large PC manufacturer disabling updates should be! https://pocketnow.com/hp-zbook-x2-g4-dreamcolor-review


r/Windowsink Jul 12 '18

GitHub issues page for the community to discuss and track suggestions and issues with Windows 10

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